The Art of Manliness

The U-Shaped Curve of Happiness


Listen Later

If you're someone who's a decade or two out from your high school graduation, do you ever find yourself thinking that you're just not as happy as you were back then? Of course all the positive-thinking self-talk then kicks in and you think, "Well, maybe I actually wasn't that happy before. I do like my life better now. I like the independence I have. Yeah, yeah, I really like being an adult." Yet, no matter the glass-half-full glow you try to put on things, you can't shake the feeling that your happiness has declined over the years, that at 30, you weren't as happy as you were at 20, and that at 40, you weren't as happy as you were when you were 30.

Well, that feeling is more than a nostalgic hunch, and it's not unique to you. It's actually been born out by hundreds of research papers and studies and shown to be a near-universal experience. My guest today has authored many of those papers. His name is Dr. David Branchflower and he's a labor economist who not only studies the data around money and jobs, but also around human happiness. Today on the show David explains how happiness follows a U-shaped curve, and starts declining around age 18, and continues to fall into midlife, before picking back up again, and David shares the average age at which happiness hits its very lowest point. While it's not entirely clear why the U-shape of happiness occurs, we talk about some possible reasons behind it. And while the U-shape is consistent across the world, it can be lower or higher, and so we discuss how factors like gender, socio-economic and martial status, and having children affect happiness, and whether it's possible to mitigate the dip.

While the fact that it won't be until your mid-60s that you feel as happy as you were at age 18 might seem depressing, David argues that it's comforting to know that the feelings of declining happiness you experience at you approach midlife are normal, and will not only pass one day, but start moving in the other direction.

Resources Related to the Podcast
  • "Is Happiness U-Shaped Everywhere?" — one of the main research papers on the happiness curve that David has authored
  • David's book Not Working: Where Have All the Good Jobs Gone?
  • Deaths of Despair and the Future of Capitalism by Anne Case and Angus Deaton
  • Study on great apes having a midlife crisis
  • AoM Series: The Seasons of a Man's Life
  • AoM Podcast #776: How to Shift Out of the Midlife Malaise
  • AoM Article: The Economics of Happiness
  • Connect With David Branchflower
    David's Faculty Page at Dartmouth (includes links to his research)

    See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    ...more
    View all episodesView all episodes
    Download on the App Store

    The Art of ManlinessBy The Art of Manliness

    • 4.7
    • 4.7
    • 4.7
    • 4.7
    • 4.7

    4.7

    14,109 ratings


    More shows like The Art of Manliness

    View all
    The Rich Roll Podcast by Rich Roll

    The Rich Roll Podcast

    11,917 Listeners

    Starting Strength Radio by Mark Rippetoe

    Starting Strength Radio

    713 Listeners

    The Mark Divine Show by Mark Divine

    The Mark Divine Show

    1,661 Listeners

    Order of Man by Ryan Michler

    Order of Man

    8,930 Listeners

    The Dad Edge Podcast by Larry Hagner

    The Dad Edge Podcast

    1,510 Listeners

    The Knowledge Project by Shane Parrish

    The Knowledge Project

    2,671 Listeners

    ManTalks Podcast by Connor Beaton

    ManTalks Podcast

    558 Listeners

    Jocko Podcast by Jocko DEFCOR Network

    Jocko Podcast

    30,823 Listeners

    The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast by Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

    The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

    33,497 Listeners

    Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory by Impact Theory

    Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory

    4,717 Listeners

    The Peter Attia Drive by Peter Attia, MD

    The Peter Attia Drive

    8,067 Listeners

    The Daily Stoic by Daily Stoic | Backyard Ventures

    The Daily Stoic

    4,834 Listeners

    The Dan John Podcast by Dan John

    The Dan John Podcast

    259 Listeners

    Deep Questions with Cal Newport by Cal Newport

    Deep Questions with Cal Newport

    1,312 Listeners

    Huberman Lab by Scicomm Media

    Huberman Lab

    29,367 Listeners