Imagine trying to lead an organization under extreme pressure from employees, customers, funders and even the federal government. That is the unenviable position facing the next president of Columbia University--and a case study that leaders in all types of organizations can learn from.

On a new Elevate Podcast series, Thinking Thursdays, host Robert Glazer and producer Mick Sloan delve into the past two leaders of Columbia: Minouche Shafik, who stepped down after a year filled with campus unrest, and her successor, Interim President Katrina Armstrong, who resigned six months later after a very public faceoff with the Trump Administration. Robert and Mick dig into the shortcomings of both Shafik and Armstrong and the extremely challenging circumstances both leaders faced. Then, they try to answer one of the toughest questions any organization faces today: what direction should Columbia go in for their next president?

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