Rebecca Jankowski and Theresa Kopac, co-owners of Interwovxn, join host Dr. Daina Parent, ND for an insightful and important conversation about postpartum and perimenopause. Rebecca and Theresa share their unique experiences supporting women during these two major life transitions, and what happens when these two phases happen simultaneously. They share diet, herbs, lab testing, and lifestyle routines that set their clients up for improved overall well-being and better health outcomes. Rebecca and Theresa share the importance of embracing change and seeking support through the transitions of motherhood, postpartum and perimenopause.

Rebecca states "I believe that by addressing the unique needs of women at every stage, we can create an ecosystem of understanding, empowerment, and connection that benefits individuals and communities alike." Theresa echos a similar sentiment, saying that "Mental health and well-being are deeply interconnected with how we show up in the world, and creating environments where women feel valued and understood is essential. Together, we can create a ripple effect, nurturing ourselves and building thriving, supportive communities."

Please join us and listen in as we deepen our knowledge and empower ourselves with education.

Rebecca Jankowski, L.Ac, MSOM, FABORM

Rebecca Jankowski has been practicing Acupuncture for nearly 20 years, and is a board-certified women's health acupuncturist. While she has specialized training in women's health and fertility, her approach extends to anyone seeking greater wellbeing, resilience, and balance in everyday life. In addition to acupuncture, Rebecca is board certified in Chinese herbal medicine and specializes in creating personalized formulas to support whole-body health.

Theresa Kopac, Reiki Practitioner, Wellness Consultant, Doula (Motherhood, Postpartum, and Hysterectomy)

Theresa brings years of experience as a postpartum and motherhood doula, with a focus on matrescence—the profound transition of becoming a mother. Her approach blends compassionate listening with tailored resources, empowering you to feel more grounded, resilient, and supported in your unique motherhood path. Supporting women through the intricacies of postpartum and perimenopause is now at the core of her work, as she strives to create space for them to thrive, honor their needs, and reclaim joy. Theresa also brings years of experience in Reiki.

3:01 Matrescence and it's affects on identity and women's health

4:37 Postpartum depletion

5:20 How personal experiences shaped Rebecca and Theresa's work in postpartum and perimenopause – women's health stages often are interwoven

9:34 What the body and mind experience during postpartum through the lens of TCM

12:15 The rewiring of the brain for the new maternal demands

15:19 "There is no bouncing back" – but there is a rebuild

15:58 Traditional Chinese Medicine nourishment for postpartum

20:32 Shifts in identity during Matresence and Perimenopause

22:15 The need for education around perimenopause

24:24 "The Second Spring" – how TCM views perimenopause

25:51 The hormone shifts from child bearing years through menopause

28:11 The secret to change: using your energy not to fight the old but to embrace the new

30:02 What happens when postpartum overlaps with perimenopause – sleep deprivation, adrenal fatigue, anemia, thyroid function and more

35:02 Botanicals and nutrients to nourish the body during postpartum and perimenopause

37:00 Supporting with doula care – the power of a prepared meal and offering space to heal

38:33 Clinical takeaways – meet her where she's at, celebrating the small wins, and educating on diet to support symptoms

39:53 Be willing to ask for support – Interwovxn offers partner guides and resources to educate partners, increasing understanding and awareness

41:07 Seeking Support – find practitioners that can help at interwovxn.com, with additional educational resources like podcasts, newsletters, and social channels

The Wholistic Take is a podcast series on the Wholistic Matters Podcast. We explore the latest health news and trends from a wholistic health perspective. The Wholistic Take episodes are shorter in length for easier consumption and timely delivery. We track the latest health news and offer wholistic insights for you to use in clinical practice and for personal care.

HOST: Dr. Daina Parent, ND

GUEST: Betsy Miller, MS, CNS, RH(AHG), DCN-c

In this mini episode, Dr. Daina Parent and Betsy Miller discuss the recent renaming of the condition formerly known as PCOS, know renamed PMOS. They cover what this name change means, why it's important and how it will affect women's healthcare going forward. Parent and Miller emphasize the importance of a holistic approach in managing PMOS symptoms, including lab testing, diet, herbs, nutrients, and lifestyle.

Betsy Miller, MS, CNS, RH(AHG), DCN-c is a clinical herbalist and certified nutrition specialist with a passion for women's health, evidence-based medicine and patient-centered care. Over the past 15 years she has devoted herself to building a clinical practice, cultivating critical research skills and teaching herbal medicine at the graduate level. She is the Clinical Product Support Manager at Standard Process and contributes digital education content for the Wholistic Matters website.

• 1:35 PCOS is now PMOS – why is this news?
• 2:55 How the new name will help woman receive the proper diagnosis
• 4:33 LH:FSH Ratio – when and how to test for these
• 5:24 Supporting symptoms of PMOS including insulin resistance, ovulation, and hyperandrogenism
• 6:48 Lab testing, nutrients and herbs for blood sugar regulation
• 9:57 Menstrual Irregularities – individualized approach paired with labs, nutrients and herbs
• 14:11 Supporting hyperandrogenism and hirtuism
• 15:19 How to support fertility challenges
• 17:24 Diet and lifestyle recommendations for managing PMOS

HOST: Dr. Sarah Clarke, DC, IFMCP

GUEST: Mimi Hernandez, MS, RH (AHG)

Dr. Sarah Clarke and Mimi Hernandez discuss the trending gut-first approach in holistic pediatric care. Mimi emphasizes the critical window in childhood to tend to the terrain, or landscape, of the microbiome which builds a foundational layer of health that is carried into adulthood. They discuss common childhood concerns such as eczema, respiratory conditions, diarrhea, constipation, and more. Mimi highlights clinical studies that show promising results to mitigate or resolve many of these conditions with the use of children's synbiotics, which include fiber, prebiotics, and probiotics that help a child's gut microbiome flourish.

Mimi Prunella Hernandez is a clinical herbalist with a passion for research-based applications and experience in the natural product industry. She has educated students and medical practitioners in herbal medicine through various platforms, integrating traditional knowledge with scientific insights. She is currently an Herbal Therapy Liaison and clinical educator for Standard Process. She is the author of the National Geographic Herbal and coauthor of the National Geographic Backyard Guide to Edible Wild Plants.

PODCAST SUMMARY

• 2:00 A gut-first approach to children's gut health
• 3:00 Tending to the microbiome – prebiotic inulin and fermented foods
• 4:40 Metaphor from an herbalist's perspective: Tending to the flora in the landscape of the microbiome
• 5:27 The state of the terrain, or landscape, of children's microbiomes today – how children's gut health is affected by their environments
• 6:58 How parents can support the terrain of their children's microbiome – the gut-brain connection
• 9:00 The importance of fiber to the gut landscape – types and diversity
• 10:39 Critical window of development in childhood to develop a healthy microbiome
• 12:17 Beta-glucans that feed gut microbes – found in mushrooms and ancient oat varieties
• 13:40 How polyphenols found in colorful foods encourage the microbiome to develop
• 15:25 Constipation in children – fiber is not the whole story: soluable vs insoluable fibers, the gut-brain connection, dysbiosis and more
• 18:56 Lack of biodiversity in microbiome due to low fiber and how it contributes to constipation
• 19:36 Short-chain fatty acids, or microbial metabolites – signals that communicate with the nervous and immune systems
• 23:40 Connection between skin conditions and the microbiome
• 26:52 Bifidobacterium lactis – will thrive when given the right fiber
• 27:30 Benefits of children's synbiotic combinations
• 30:12 Early antibiotic use and the impact on microbiome health
• 31:20 Sacromyceses boulardi – probiotic yeast that has benefits post-antibiotic use
• 33:58 Best forms of children's synbiotic supplements – are probiotic gummies really effective?
• 35:05 Using clinically studied microbes in pediatric research
• 39:25 Supplementing with fibers in children's synbiotic blends to help bridge the fiber gap in children's diets
• 40:43 Setting a strong foundation in childhood for optimal health into adulthood with microbiome support

HOST: Dr. Daina Parent, ND

GUEST: Sarah Thompson, Dpl.OM, L.Ac., CFMP, and Birth Doula

Sarah Thompson brings a wealth of knowledge and a unique perspective on preparing for motherhood and maternal care. Host Dr. Daina Parent, ND and Sarah Thompson, Dpl.OM, L.Ac., CFMP, and Birth Doula, engage in an important conversation around the need for improved care for the mother in preconception, fertility and pregnancy. They discuss how whole food nutrition, lifestyle, functional lab testing and interpretation, and collaborative care can significantly improve pregnancy outcomes for mom and baby. Throughout the episode Sarah offers clinical pearls on how to improve diets of pregnant patients and influencing positive lifestyle changes.

Sarah Thompson is the author of Functional Maternity - Using Functional Medicine and Nutrition to Improve Pregnancy and Childbirth Outcomes and Beyond Results – A Practitioner's Guidebook to Functional Lab Analysis in Pregnancy. She is a certified functional medicine practitioner, licensed acupuncturist, board-certified herbalist, birth doula, and educator with a passion for pregnancy care.

She is a leader in the practice and education of maternity functional medicine. Sarah combines evidence-based research in prenatal and maternity nutrition with functional medicine and nutrition principles. Sarah's clinical experience spans nearly 20 years.

• Foods for preconception – antioxidants from colorful whole food fruits and vegetables, omega-3s, and more
• The Whole Food Matrix – benefits of consuming vitamins, minerals, and phytonutrients in a whole food form
• Functional approach to interpreting labs during pregnancy

• 2:15 Discovering the passion for functional maternity care
• 5:32 Inspiring birth stories and navigating fear around childbirth
• 6:52 Opportunities for growth and improvement in conventional model of pregnancy care
• 8:06 "Prenatal care is the care of the baby. Maternity care is the care of the mother. We have lost the care of mothers through the care of pregnancy."
• 9:00 How nutrition and lifestyle affects mother and baby
• 13:07 Preconception preparation – preparing the body for pregnancy
• 18:34 Foods for preconception – antioxidants from colorful whole food fruits and vegetables (polyphenols, flavonoids, anthocyanins, and others), omega-3s, and more
• 22:54 Oxidative Stress Defined
• 25:22 The Whole Food Matrix – benefits of consuming vitamins, minerals, and phytonutrients in a whole food form
• 28:09 Managing cravings for unhealthy foods during pregnancy and balancing with nutrient dense foods
• 30:04 "How do I make what you're doing work better for you?" - individualized nutritional support
• 33:04 Simple ways to add polyphenols to meals
• 36:19 Elevating everyday recipes to increase nutrient density and phytonutrient content
• 39:42 An individualized approach to herbs in pregnancy
• 42:52 Functional Medicine approach to common issues in pregnancy
• 49:43 The interconnectedness of systems and functions of the body in pregnancy
• 50:59 Modifiable lifestyle factors to improve pregnancy complications
• 53:47 Functional approach to interpreting labs during pregnancy
• 1:04:00 Collaboration in Care – it takes a village of practitioners working together to deliver holistic pregnancy care
• 1:06:00 Advice to practitioners and patients: importance of individualized maternal care and focusing on aspects of pregnancy and birth we can control

Supporting Mental Health with Detoxification, Nutrition and Chiropractic Care

How chiropractic care, nutrition support, strategic supplementation and testing can mitigate the affects of toxins on brain, spine, and nervous system health

HOST: Dr. Sarah Clarke, DC, IFMCP

GUEST: Dr. Sarah Kotlerman, BS, DC, NTP

Drs. Sarah Clarke, DC, IFMCP and Sarah Kotlerman, BS, DC, NTP discuss how toxic burden can affect every aspect of health, especially the brain and nervous system. They discuss the most prevalent mental health conditions and clinical strategies to find balance naturally. Dr. Kotlerman shares case studies and clinical experiences that highlight how whole food nutrition, strategic supplementation, testing and chiropractic care can help patients detox to aide in recovery from conditions such as depression, anxiety, ADHD, migraines, and seizures, as well as fertility issues, childhood diseases, and other chronic illnesses.

Through her work at Averio Health Institute, Dr. Kotlerman has specialized in the non-surgical regeneration of spinal ligament instability, advanced toxicity removal through chiropractic care and overall improvement of spinal alignment and motion.

Dr. Kotlerman has published fifteen international case studies on the regenerative outcomes and results of concentrated chiropractic care using Averio Health Institute methods, as well as authored multiple books, co-starred in a documentary: Health For Our Future, spoken on multiple radio shows, podcasts, national TV interviews and regularly teaches and speaks at various conferences annually.

SHOW NOTES

2:24 Concentrated chiropractic care paired with nutrition support, testing and education

7:45 Inspiration for bringing back the concept of the chiropractic hospital

10:24 Detoxification and chiropractic care paired with strategic supplementation

15:11 The affect of toxins on fertility and childhood diseases – the risk of BPAs, polyester and other plastics

19:29 The affects of toxins on the nervous system

25:18 Toxic burden and the connection to ADHD, Depression and other mental health conditions – using chiropractic care, detoxification and supplementation to address mental health

32:35 Causes of damaged cervical spine - connected to stress and toxins as well as physical injury

33:56 Alignment Issues: reduced circumference of arteries in neck create higher risk for Dementia and Alzheimer's (loss of normal blood flow to the brain)

37:01 The Three T's – Trauma, Thoughts and Toxins

37:33 The connection between toxicity and seizures and migraines

40:56 Nutrition and whole food supplementation to aid in detoxification

44:25 Root causes and protocols for anxiety

Dr. Kotlerman is a speaker at Cultivate Boston April 30-May 2. Register for an in-person or virtual experience.

In this deeply important conversation, Dr. Daina Parent, ND sits down with Dr. Jannine Krause, ND, acupuncturist, and host of The Health Fix Podcast, to explore practitioner burnout and practical strategies for restoring balance.

Dr. Jannine shares her personal journey through burnout in her own clinical practice—what led to it, how she recognized it, and the steps she took to heal and thrive again.

This episode offers actionable tools and empowering insights to help practitioners protect their energy, restore nervous system balance, and create sustainable clinical careers.

Episode Highlights

1:52 – Dr. Jannine's personal journey with practitioner burnout 5:25 – The Physician Heal Thyself course: why filling your own cup comes first 7:30 – Practical tips for establishing healthy energetic boundaries 11:45 – Simple nervous system regulation strategies for before, during, and between patient sessions 14:38 – Exercises to tone and strengthen the parasympathetic nervous system 21:21 – The significance of Heart Rate Variability (HRV) 23:06 – Epigenetic testing and biological age: connections to nervous system regulation 25:24 – Daily survival patterns and the power of thought 29:30 – How nutrition and herbs influence nervous system resilience 35:03 – Herbal support for peri- and menopause 35:20 – The role of cleansing and detoxification in resetting the nervous system 38:25 – The most important element of a foundational diet: eating close to nature 40:25 – How homegrown food impacts how we feel in our bodies 43:25 – Self-care advice for practitioners

To learn more about Dr. Jannine Krause and her work, listen to The Health Fix Podcast and visit her website at doctorkrausend.com.

Do you know the best day to start a detoxification program in January? (HINT: It's not January 1st!) Dr. Kim Besuden, DC, CFMP shares her tips and tricks for running successful individual and group purification programs in her practice, including best days to start, what support to offer as a practitioner, and suggestions for community support opportunities. Dr. Sarah Clarke, DC, IFMCP, host of this episode, asks Dr. Besuden what clinical signs she identifies to determine if a patient needs to detox, and how to establish healthy eating habits after the progam has finished. She shares ways to establish yourself as a nutrition leader in your community and ways she supports other practitioners in growing their practices.

SHOW SUMMARY

3:00 Detoxification program done by staff gives optimal support for patients

4:18 Appropriate timing for detox program after holidays is crucial for success

5:20 Single best way to reach out to your community and guide them through the process

6:45 Community support helps patients get through a detox program, virtually and in person

9:40 Celebrate the holidays guilt free and without withholding, it's the amount and quality to be mindful of

10:42 5-day flash detoxes throughout the year around holidays

12:38 Advice for patients that want to continue exercising during a detox program

14:43 Clinical signs that a patient could benefit from a detox program

16:33 Adopting new healthy habits after completing a detox program

17:20 The caffeine dilemma – when to take a break and how much to drink for optimal health benefits

19:20 Top 2 improvements patients report after completing a detox program

20:00 How detox programs support liver health

21:50 Detox programs for the whole family – teaching children life long healthy habits

24:00 Food, Movement, Blood Sugar Balance, and Sleep – tools for monitoring sleep, blood sugar and more to understand each person's biomarkers

29:34 Detoxing in community helps with compliance and offers a significant learning opportunity

30:50 I made it through the detox!… what's next?

33:40 Clinical success stories - lab markers that indicate the need for a detoxification program

39:50 Choosing your hard and meeting patients where they're at

44:10 Benefits of using an OTC CGM to learn about blood sugar regulation

45:36 Best way to establish yourself a leader in your community on nutrition

46:26 Dr. Besudan as a resource for other practitioners

Dr. Sarah Clarke, DC, IFMCP, and Dave Hogsed, DOM, AP, discuss traditional and cultural trends around the consumption of organ meats, and the nutritional value these foods offer. They cover nutrients found various organ meats and how they can either be eaten or taken in supplement form. Dave shares clinical success stories, including his own personal experience, using organ meat glandular therapy. He explains how various organ and glandular meats can support immune function, cardiovascular health, nervous system health, cognitive function, bone health, and more.

David Hogsed, DOM, AP, is in full time practice at the Natural Healthcare Professionals clinic in Fort Myers, Florida. His practice specializes in providing effective nutritional support for endocrine, digestion, musculoskeletal, nervous system, and immune system health. David has been a clinical consultant and speaker for Standard Process since 2003. His seminars are best known for simplifying clinical nutrition, herbal medicine, laboratory tests, and patient education.

David has taught post-graduate programs through Texas Chiropractic College, Logan Chiropractic College, the University of Miami-Miller School of Medicine, Palmer Chiropractic College, Life University, and Northwestern Chiropractic College. He is a regular speaker for the Florida Chiropractic Association, and Palmer Chiropractic College homecoming.

SHOW SUMMARY

2:40 Dave's first personal success story with organ meat glandular therapy

5:15 Clinical results from combining organ meat supplements with herbal and nutritional support

7:06 Organ Meats: the forgotten superfoods – historical consumption around the world

8:50 Traditional Chinese Medicine – consumption of organ would support that organ

9:48 Liver: the most nutrient dense organ meat

12:04 Returning popularity of other traditional foods – raw sauerkraut, bone broths, cod liver oil, and more

12:46 Foods essential for health – "you must take it (as a supplement) or eat it"

14:00 Tips for incorporating liver into your diet

15:03 Key benefits of bone broth and bone extracts

16:53 Animals instinctively know the health benefits of organ meats

18:06 The consumption of heart for cardiovascular health

21:30 Combating the effects of stress with organ meats: liver and adrenal glandular extract

23:30 Studies are now finding additional nutritional benefits in organ meats – mRNA

24:21 Nutritional difference between skeletal muscle meat vs. organ meat

27:24 Studies and historical evidence of health benefits of organ meats

28:17 Liver: the ultimate multivitamin

31:00 Organ meats for immune support – thymus extract

32:40 Historical consumption of brain around the world for cognitive health

34:49 Testicular and ovarian extracts for hormone regulation

35:40 The importance of thymus extracts in young children and with aging populations

36:46 Liver is the king of organ meats

Why is it that women experience stress more intensely than men? Drs. Daina Parent and Annette Schippel discuss the connection between women's hormones and the effects of stress on the female body. Dr. Schippel shares her personal and professional experience navigating the stages of a woman's reproductive journey and how endocrine health plays a significant role in hormone balance. Drs. Parent and Schipple emphasize the importance of working with qualified healthcare providers trained in herbal medicine in order to find the right herbs for each person and symptom picture. Dr. Schippel offers invaluable clinical tools and takeaways to create a strong foundation for any woman to navigate stress management and optimal wellness with nutrition, herbs, lifestyle and more.

Dr. Annette Schippel is a chiropractor and a graduate of Logan College of Chiropractic, she brings over 25 years of experience to her work. She owns two thriving family practices that focus on pediatrics, women's health, and clinical nutrition, and she regularly sees patients from across the United States and around the world.

Known for her expertise in functional medicine and endocrinology, Dr. Schippel has become a respected educator, author, and speaker. She has written and co-authored numerous clinician manuals and lectures domestically and internationally on topics in nutrition and functional endocrinology. She has had the privilege of visiting Medi-Herb in Australia for 3 years to receive advanced training in phytotherapy. She also had the honor to speak on alternative approaches to Metabolic Syndrome at the 2014 International Health Management Forum in Bejing China.

Show Summary

2:24 Female hormones and stress sensitivity

4:00 The HPA Axis and the stress response

5:35 The thyroid adrenal connection

7:57 Cortisol, DHEA and the adrenal cortex

9:15 Prolactin, dopamine and high prevalence of autoimmunity in women

11:30 Key differences in male and female hormones: estradiol, testosterone, and DHEA

15:27 Peri- and menopausal hormone shifts

16:33 Adrenal burnout and perimenopause: the resiliency of the stress response affects hormone balance

21:13 Clinical strategies for adrenal support to mitigate perimenopausal symptoms – diet, exercise, sleep, digestion, and mental health

25:42 Herbs for adrenal support and endocrine balance – rehmania, ashwagandha, chaste tree, schizandra and more

29:33 How herbs modulate and synergize with hormones

30:02 Social media trends – perspectives on ashwagandha

33:06 Why guidance from a healthcare provider with herbal knowledge matters – finding the right herbs for each person

35:35 Choosing the right herb – how patient health history and symptom picture inform herbal selection

44:39 Using blood chemistry to inform patient protocols

45:55 Personalizing herbal protocols for different stages of the lifespan

48:38 Nutrients and herbs for libido and vaginal dryness and how adrenal resilience plays a role in these symptoms

50:32 Circulation, sexual health, and blood-flow support

52:53 Improving vasodilation through nitric oxide; whole foods and herbs that support circulation (beets, mountain spinach, red algae, and more)

54:45 Herbs as modulators – herbs won't increase or decrease hormones too much

55:16 The truth about wild yam creams

58:54 The practitioner-patient journey - navigating better health together

1:01:51 Key clinical takeaway for supporting women's health and stress management – how to build a good foundation and never lose sight of what you're trying to build

Dr. Daina Parent, ND sits down with Dr. Karma James-Dulin to discuss managing blood sugar with a diet that includes complete proteins and important fibers. Dr. James-Dulin shares her personal journey with managing her own blood sugar during pregnancy, and her passion for developing foods that are healthy and taste great. Drs. Daina and Karma discuss a small clinical study that confirms the ability of complete plant-based proteins to balance blood sugar, and how ancient varieties of seeds provide higher protein and lower carbohydrates. They wrap the episode with clinical takeaways to help patients navigate the many high protein options in the marketplace.

Dr. Karma James-Dulin is a food scientist with over 9 years of experience in the food and dietary supplements industry. She has a bachelor's degree in chemistry from Grambling State University and completed her Ph.D. in food science at Penn State University, where she investigated the effects of green tea on the liver. Dr. James-Dulin is passionate about food, flavor and nutrition, believing that healthy food should taste good. She enjoys cooking, dancing and spending time with family. She is currently a product development manager at Standard Process, Inc, having joined the company to establish the Food Science Team and Lab. In this capacity she oversees many aspects of the development of products from ideation, formulation and prototype development through to commercialization. During her tenure at Standard Process, Inc, she has led the development of serval products, most notably a one-of-a-kind nutrition bar for an adventure athlete on his quest to cross Antarctica. Additionally, she has led the development of the company's first food line comprising of protein powders and whole food nutrition bars.

Blood Sugar Regulation

3:03 Dr. James-Dulin's personal connection to blood sugar management

4:51 Insulin resistance state in pregnancy

5:20 Why proteins and fats fare important for blood sugar regulation

7:02 Dressing up your carbs with proteins and fats

7:44 Developing a high-quality protein blend

11:08 Animal protein versus plant-based protein

12:58 Significance of ancient oats – phytonutrient and macronutrient profile

14:59 Nutrition in ancient seeds versus modern varieties

15:49 Ways to consume protein blends

16:36 Resistance starch fiber's ability to slow blood glucose release

17:12 Golden chlorella as a vegetarian source of B12, plant-based folate and protein

18:07 Small clinical study measures success of protein blend to minimize glucose spikes

20:02 Dr. James-Dulin's passion for Food Science and her focus on nutrition and flavor

22:35 Advice for practitioners to help patients find products to balance blood sugar levels

23:56 Types of fibers and how they affect blood sugar regulation

25:55 Complete protein blend plus fiber gives optimal blood sugar regulation