"Moment of Zen"

Why this is BLM for Jews, unpacking the conflict, and predictions for Israel, Gaza, and Iran


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Dan Romero and Erik Torenberg discuss the history of Israel, Gaza, and Iran and what happens next in this war on the ground. They also discuss the schism in the public discourse and the downstream political implications in the US. If you’re looking for SOC 2, ISO 27001, GDPR or HIPAA compliance, head to Vanta for $1000 off: https://www.vanta.com/zen


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SELECT LINKS:

-Wikipedia : List of Jewish Nobel Laureates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_Nobel_laureates

- Book: Rise and Kill First https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rise_and_Kill_First

- Iranian Agent - Robert Malley Spy Ring story https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/iran-spy-ring-robert-malley-lee-smith

& Washington Post article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/06/rob-malley-iran-security-clearance-investigation/

-Econ 102 episode where Noah Smith discusses the War in Israel and economic causes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW1coCYfapA

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Episode Preview

(03:50) Israel, Gaza and Mood affiliation

(07:55) The New York Times front page

(13:00) The schism in the current thing

(15:30) Moral equivalence in this conflict

(19:00) Inconsistencies on the far left

(23:00) History of the conflict and borders

(25:00) Thanks to our sponsors: Vanta, NetSuite

(27:00) Why are Jews so successful and disliked?

(36:00) Argumentative Jews

(40:00) Going deeper into the historical roots

(45:45) Understanding Israel, Iran, and neighbors' nuclear programs

(57:10) Would Palestinian economic prosperity solve this conflict?

(01:06:00) Biggest concerns

(01:10:00) Israel's next move

(01:15:45) Pendulum swing back to Trump?

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