The weary travelers are back! After collecting your most pressing marketing questions at the latest legal conferences, Gyi and Conrad are ready to answer you right here on the podcast. And later—you better learn how NOT to annoy your audience, because no one likes a spammer. 
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We at the Lunch Hour pod took down your marketing questions at Clio Cloud 2023 and MTMP, and the guys are ready to answer the first three of many! If you’ve been wondering about effective client meetings, social media positioning, and targeted referrals, listen in for Gyi and Conrad’s expertise.  
Later, when is your marketing too much? There is a line, folks, and you definitely don’t want to cross it. The guys talk about marketing and social media etiquette and the stuff you need to think about when you engage with your target audience. 
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Get ready to make a big spend on TikTok’s physical ads! It’s a thing now: Introducing Out of Phone: TikTok Beyond the Mobile Screen.


Capture Now could help you fix the intake problems at your law firm. 

Clio launches Clio Duo and the insights it has to offer will most likely really change the way lawyers work.

NGage Chat is still being super lame and selling your leads, just like we told you in this episode: 5 Ways To Make Your Google Profile Pop || Is Your Chat Service Selling Your Leads? 

Gyi and Conrad were on the Game Changing Attorney Podcast.

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Whether you have a DIY approach to your law firm marketing or an in-house team at your beck and call, you really should be using the top tools of the trade, and Gyi and Conrad share just what you need! But first—many, many SEOs preach that you should keep ALL your old content… but we’re pretty sure you really need to toss the majority of that bulk overboard. 
Is your website riding a bit low in the water? We keep hearing marketers say that your old content is some sort of treasure trove, but, more likely, it’s just outdated junk that needs to be jettisoned—quickly. Clearing things out can make more valuable content perform better, and Gyi and Conrad lay out how to decide what should stay and what should go. 
Next, the list you’ve always needed to fill up your marketing toolbox! Depending on your approach and resources, the guys outline three different lists of essential tools to help you hone your marketing tactics. 
Total Beginner - The DIY Lawyer’s Marketing Tools

Google Searches

Meta’s Ad Library

Google Maps

CallRail

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Microphone - SM58, MV7, or similar.

Intermediate Tools - For the Those With Growing Expertise   

Local SEO Tools: Local Falcon, BrightLocal, Whitespark, or Places Scout.

Intake Management Software: Clio Grow, Lawmatics, Litify, Lead Docket, etc. 

A Link Index Tool: Ahrefs, Semrush, Moz


Advanced Tools - for the Seasoned Pro, Marketing Directors, SEO Leads, and the Like!
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The News:

Google I/O 2024 (their developer conference) just wrapped up, so what’s gonna be happening with the latest in the search realm? Google is adding more AI to its search results | TechCrunch and Generative AI in Search: Let Google do the searching for you.

ChapGPT 4.0 (Omni) is now available, and we’re all just still hoping AI isn’t going to eventually kill us all: Hello GPT-4o | OpenAI 


LSA now means Let’s Screw Attorneys — So, should you play the game or just quit now?

Thanks? We got a blog award: The 16 Best Legal Marketing Podcasts Of 2024 

Gyi and Conrad will both be participating in the Law Firm Growth Summit from May 21-23. 

And, LocalU Detroit is coming up on June 24th! 

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Y’know what’s super annoying?—Google thinking it was okay to just auto-enroll all LSA clients into their branded queries. Sheesh. Later, should we all be mourning the death of links for SEO (again)? 
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Google… someday, we’d really appreciate it if you stopped being so presumptuous. Listen up, business owners—Google’s auto-enrollment scheme in branded queries for LSAs might be leading you to spend money unnecessarily, but it’s all a little too murky to know what’s really happening. The good news is: you can opt out if you want to. The bad news is: the current data is so fuzzy that it’s pretty darn tough to tell whether opting out is the right move. Gyi and Conrad pick apart their findings thus far and offer insights into how to navigate these shifts in your LSAs. 
The Link is dead; long live the Link? A recent article headline caught our attention: Google Confirms Links Are Not That Important. Is this really true, though? Nah. Links may have decreased in significance in some ways, but they still absolutely have a place in the SEO kingdom, and Gyi and Conrad explain why. 
The News:

Google just shared their Q1 earning call, and nearmedia.co has all the deets. 

Whaaaaa..?! Google Confirms Links Are Not That Important


Google’s March 2024 Core Update Finished April 19th — Hopefully any turbulence you experienced has died down by now. 

Next, Google tests scan-to-call QR codes and extra images on sponsored ads. If you see one within the legal sphere, send it to us! 

For all 2 of you who needed to know, you can no longer manually update ads on Bing as of April 30th: Microsoft Ads to replace Manual CPC with Enhanced CPC by end of April 

Old news? The Federal Trade Commission Announces Proposed Rule Banning Fake Reviews and Testimonials. Somebody’s gonna get in big trouble, y’all; we’re looking at you Banana Slicer.

Gyi and Conrad will both be participating in the Law Firm Growth Summit from May 21-23. 

And, LocalU Detroit is coming up on June 24th! 

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Google Local Service Ads: To Brand or Not to Brand?

Your competitor is using YOUR name to promote themselves, and you’re totally ticked, but what can you do? Later, learn the very best ways to spend your marketing budget to grow your business. 
Generating clients for yourself by mentioning your competitor is sketchy, right? Or, is it? In the words of every lawyer ever, “It depends.” Gyi and Conrad analyze a particular instance of an aggressive brand practice Ben Glass highlighted in a recent LinkedIn post. A very questionable strategy used by one of his competitors could easily have misled consumers, so, ick, but is there an okay way to use a brand conquest strategy? The guys unpack the philosophy and ethics behind this type of marketing approach. 
Pop quiz, hot shot. You’ve got $5,000 for your marketing budget. What do you do? The possibilities could run in a variety of directions, and Gyi and Conrad share several creative takes on what kind of impact can be made with your investment. 
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Everybody is in the digital media business—maybe even your bank! Yep, JP Morgan has started an ad agency… What do we think about this? - JPMorgan Creates Marketing Agency Built on Purchase Data  

Paid search is still king, but is regicide coming? - U.S. search ad revenues hit record $88.8 billion in 2023


 
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Your CRM software isn’t just some technical database that should be hidden away somewhere. If you’ve got it, flaunt it! And, congratulations, you’ve made it through the first quarter. So, what checkups should you be doing on your marketing campaign?
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As you meet people, either online or out in the wide world, you should be considering each and every new connection as a way to grow your CRM database. It takes time and discipline to do it right, but it’s totally worth it to grow your business. Gyi and Conrad discuss the possibilities that lie within a robust CRM system and how to meaningfully and effectively leverage those connections. 
We’re 90 days in, everyone. How did Q1 go for you? Gyi and Conrad outline all the things lawyers and marketers should start measurably seeing after three months in the full swing of their marketing strategies. Is your target audience working? Are you hitting your priorities? What needs to change? The guys talk through all the questions you should be asking and the benchmarks you should be reaching at this point in the year. 
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So, what should we expect from Google in the next 12 months? Well, Conrad just did a session on it at Mass Torts Made Perfect, so he’ll give you an overview!


Universal Analytics is seriously done-zo on July 1, so if you’re still using it, get out now. 

LocalU is coming to Detroit, and Gyi gets to help! LocalU taps into industry leading experts to teach about stellar SEO content. Check it: LocalU Detroit 2024 

 
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My CRM is Bigger Than Yours || Quarter 1, Done

Ladies and gentlemen! Tonight’s main event is a rough and rowdy throw down over: What exactly is a conversion? Later, LSAs are confusing, amIright? Gyi and Conrad shed some light on how to make the most of your marketing dollar. 
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So, you’ve just placed a Google ad, written a social post, or sent out a newsletter. Then, you sit back and hope for… what, exactly? There is definitely some argument about what a conversion is and isn’t in your marketing scenario, so get ready for some heat as Gyi and Conrad rumble over their diverging philosophies. However, at its core, the guys agree that a conversion happens when a user takes the desired action (whatever that may be) which, in turn, grows your business. They discuss how this plays out in the real world to help lawyers understand best practices in their marketing efforts. 
Later, the guys answer Local Services Ad questions from listeners. How long will LSAs be king for small firms? Do you really have to increase your budget to compete with legal behemoths on Google? Can effective targeting solve ad problems? Gyi and Conrad give their best takes on how to understand the nuances of the system. 
The News:

Is this whole TikTok ban for realsies? Questionable — Bill that could ban TikTok passed in the House. Here's what to know 


Google Integrates Social Media Posts Into Google Business Profiles Gyi and Conrad talk about how to make the most of it. 

Sooo… the Google March 2024 spam update is done rolling out. Did it make any difference?

Coming your way: DIY AI-assisted website stuffs that power your marketing—GoDaddy Launched Airo


And, we’re excited, folks! The First LHLM: Office Hours took place on March 15 and the guys are super grateful for all those who got involved. Join Gyi and Conrad again on March 29.  


This Podcast Rated [PG] by the Podcast Association of America* for mild language and bad lawyer jokes. 

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