Your Dream Business

Your Dream Business

By Teresa Heath-WareingBusinessEntrepreneurshipMarketing
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  • The biggest mistake people make with goal setting
    Today’s episode of the podcast is a solo episode all about goal setting.There is a simple mistake that I see so many business owners make when they do this, tune in now to find out what it is!KEY TAKEAWAYS COVERED IN THE PODCAST

    • Why goal setting is so important


    • Where people go wrong with goal setting


    • Why you need to align your goals with your values



    THE ONE THING YOU NEED TO REMEMBER ABOVE ALL ELSE
    Goal setting isn’t about beating yourself up about things that you don’t achieve, it’s about giving you direction of where you want to go.
    HIGHLIGHTS YOU SIMPLY CAN'T MISS

    • My experience of not goal setting for my own business this year


    • Why you need to plan your goals for next year, now


    • How I can help you goal set for 2023



    LINKS TO RESOURCES MENTIONED IN TODAY’S EPISODEThe science behind the woo podcast episodeJoin me for my 2023 Planning WorkshopTRANSCRIPT


    Hello and welcome to this week's episode of the podcast. How are you doing? So, we are getting towards the end of the year terrifying as that thought might be cuz actually it has gone really fast this year. It's time to start thinking about next year. And a little while back, I did an episode on the Science Behind the Woo, and you might wanna go back and re-listen to that in terms of why we goal set, why we plan, why we have vision boards, why we think to the future, why we imagine what our future could be like.


    There is real science behind those things, which is one of the reasons why I do it every single year. Now I say this, and last year I didn't do it. I normally head out to Nashville and work with Mary. We do some kind of group mastermind thing, and I'm very lucky that we have Michael there and Megan there and, and they talk us through different exercises to plan our following year.


    And I didn't do it last year cause I missed the date when I, when I was out there, I'd already missed it, which was a real shame. But I thought to myself, Oh, I'll use some time and I'll definitely do it and I didn't. And the first quarter and a bit of last year, not last year, sorry, this year for me, was not all that. From a so many points of view not just from an income point of view, but from a, I didn't know where I was going. I didn't know what direction I was doing. And it's like, you know, they always like saying, it's like having a map of somewhere that you don't wanna go to. Yeah, you can follow up, but you're gonna end up in the wrong place.


    So we need to know where we're trying to get to. We need to know what is it we want for our business. What are our goals? What do we wanna achieve? And not just one business personally, what do we wanna in the following year. And it's not so that we can beat ourselves up about it, when we get to the end of the year and we haven't done it or might not have done it, it's so that we've got a direction.


    It's so that we are working towards something. And I think this is often where people go wrong with goal setting because they don't do it the way I do it. They do it a kind of, Okay, these are your goals, this is what you're going for done. And you just set these goals and they just sit there kind of hovering over you for the whole year.


    And you don't necessarily think about, Well, how am I gonna actually make them happen? What actions am I gonna do and how am I gonna take that massive annual goal and bring it down into a quarter and bring it down into a month and bring it down into a week and bring it down into a day? And that's the difference, that's what I do. But the other thing that I do, when I do goal setting is we look at what is in an alignment with you and your values, because you can't set goals.


    You can't think about what you want for the world or what you want for your world without making sure it aligns with your values. So for instance, one of your values can be that you like ethical selling. And actually, one of your goals could be that you wanna make a million and you're gonna do it by getting loads of numbers.


    It's just not gonna add up. You've gotta make sure that whatever your values are, match with your alignment, match with your goals. So that's what I do and that's what I'm gonna be doing with you hopefully on November the 30th. I have a session that's going to be about three, three and a half hours long that you can join me for where we can review your 2022 and we can set up and think about what do we want for 2023.


    Now, like I said, the reason I didn't do this this year, Or the beginning of the year, it's cause I didn't have someone to do it with, you need someone to do it. We tell ourselves, I'm gonna take that time out, I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna go through the motions. We don't, I don't, and I teach this stuff. So, if I teach this stuff and I don't do it, then I promise you it's really, really hard to do on your own.


    So what we're gonna do on that day, on November the 30th, is we're gonna review your 2022. We're going to look at what our values are, what we want from the world, and we're going to create goals based on those values. Now, if you're not sure what your values are, that's fine. I'm gonna help you with the really cool exercise. We're gonna work through them. I'm gonna look at how those values sit in with what goals you've got for the year.


    We're not only gonna look at your goals, but we're also gonna look at each parts of your world. You know, what is your true north? What, where are you truly aligned with every kind of major aspect of your life and business. So home life, financially, relationships, business wise, you know, personal development or spiritual wise. We're gonna look at those different areas as well.


    And then we're going to look at some strategic planning. Okay? We're going to look. So we're gonna do the kind of the coaching side and the more practice side in terms of the goal setting and the values and the what do we want from the world.


    But we're also going to look at the strategic side. So we're gonna sit down and we're going to look the year. I've already started planning my year for next year. When are we going to sell things? When are we going to promote things? Where are we gonna put our focus in different things? So for me, we're going to look at the kind of real strategic and practical side of our business.


    Because it's both. It can't just be the, let's put a goal out there and let's go I really want that goal. We need to look at how we're going to work towards making this goal happen. And then what we're gonna do is we're going to look at how we break down the goal into the actions. Okay? Because that's the key thing.


    Now, with the goals, and I've said this many, many times, we can't always guarantee we're gonna get it. So if I set myself a huge growth goal for the podcast, well, I can't guarantee that that goal is going to happen. I certainly can't guarantee that goal's gonna happen if I take no action. So what actions can I take in order to start me getting towards that goal?


    Now, these actions can be, the thing that we target ourselves by at the end of the quarter or the week or the year or whatever timeframe we're talking. So at the end of the year, if I have taken all the actions I wanted to take, I can high five myself and tell myself, brilliant! You've done amazingly. Even if the goal hasn't quite come to fruition, that's okay.


    So it's about kind of like I said, taking two sides. It's about taking the practice side, the mindfulness, the mindset side of goal setting and looking at who we are and what we want from the world, but it's also the practical side. And after the three and a half hours that you're gonna spend with me, you're gonna come away with a plan, okay?


    A very clear plan in terms of what you want from your business. You're gonna come away from a plan in the fact of what you are going to do when in the following year. And how that looks broken down quarterly and maybe monthly. So you're going to come away with your plan and you're going to have your overarching view of 2023.


    And you're gonna be motivated and you're gonna be inspired, and you're gonna be ready to set those things in action. And we need to do that before the end of the year. We need to think about where we're gonna go. We don't wanna go into 2023, not knowing what we have planned for that year. We want to go into 2023, fired up, excited, ready to achieve the things that you wanna achieve, and I want to help you do that.


    So not only can you join me for these three and a half hours, but also following on from that. In January, we're going to have a check in. So we're going to have a group, our call check in to see how you're going. And this might be the little bit of a motivation you need because you've had Christmas, you've got your plan, it's probably on your desk somewhere, and now you need a kind of, you know, revival of that plan.


    A bit of a wake up call, a bit of a motivation. And these are the things I do with the executive club members. So this is how I've had members have their best ever year. In fact, one of my executive members this year has already hit her financial goal. And I'm recording this in October, so that's what I want for you.


    That's what I wanna help you with. I want to work with you to help you look at what you've done this year, identify where some of those blocks are, and what is stopping you from getting to that next goal. How can I help you move to that next goal? How can we set those goals and what actions can be put in place?


    So, If you want to join me for this day and then get this hour in January with me, the cost is 111 pounds. 1 1 1 You know I'm loving all these numbers. If you are a member of the club now, if you're a member of executive club, you don't need to pay to do this. You can come along for free. Because we do this work anyway, and if you wanna join us for an extra day, that's fine.


    You will have your own day. If you are a member of the club, we won't go into this in this detail, so you will need to sign up for this. If you want to do it in the detail, we're gonna do it. Now, if you're a member of the club, you know we have saw, which is our online event in December. I think it's a week after this, but we'll be covering different things, but members get a discount, so members get 20% off, so they will get it for 88 pounds and 80 pence. And if you're a non-member, you get it for 111 pounds.


    So I'm really hoping you'll join me. I really hope you are investing in yourself. And this is the thing I've invested in myself years after years after years in order to make sure that I achieve the goals I want. And I have, I have been especially very lucky. I've not been very lucky. I've been strategic, I've been mindful and I've worked hard at it, and I'm helping you to do the same. So we're gonna put a link in the bio, in the show notes, but, and you'll find it on my social media. But if you head to teresaheathwareing.com/2023 ie 2023.


    You can come and join me on that day for that session, and let me help you plan out next year. Okay? That's all I wanted to say. Today, we're back next week with a interview. We've got the lovely Sigrun, and if you don't know who she is, you will wanna come and check her out. She, she's really good in terms of business strategy and getting your goals and that sort of thing.


    So it's kind of act based on what I've just talked about. But it's a really, really good episode and like I said, we've only got a handful of interviews left. In fact, I think it's probably gonna take up, take us up to the end of the year, which is kind of cool. And then we will be starting all solos next year, which is Ace.


    Okay? Have a lovely week. Hopefully you can sign up and join me on that planning session. Like said, go to teresaheathwareing.com/2023 and I will see you there. Have a great week and I'll see you next week.

    13 min
  • How to market more humanely with Sarah Santacroce
    Today’s episode of the podcast is an interview with Sarah Santacroce, who talks all about
    humane marketing and her alternative model to the traditional 7 P’s of marketing.
    I always love talking about this sort of stuff, as I think it's helpful to have open conversations
    about some of the marketing tools and tactics that are commonly used, because I have
    fallen for them and I’m sure many of you have too!
    What I really love about this episode is that we talk about how to actually market our
    business in a way that fits with us, and Sarah has some really interesting takes on why we
    should look at who we are, rather than looking at our avatar.
    KEY TAKEAWAYS COVERED IN THE PODCAST
    •  What is wrong with traditional marketing
    • What humane marketing looks like
    • How to know when you’re doing humane marketing

    • THE ONE THING YOU NEED TO REMEMBER ABOVE ALL ELSE
      Humane marketing starts with awareness, the fact you’re even mindful of it, is a great first
      step!
      HIGHLIGHTS YOU SIMPLY CAN'T MISS
      • The 7 P’s of humane marketing
      • How we bring more empathy into the business world
      • Why humane marketing is still about selling, just in a compassionate way

      • LINKS TO RESOURCES MENTIONED IN TODAY’S EPISODE
        Sarah's Website
        Sarah’s LinkedIn
        The 7 P’s of Humane Marketing
         
        TRANSCRIPT
        Hello and welcome to this week's episode of the podcast. How are you doing? So we have an interview and if you listen to my episode last week, which hopefully you did, and if you haven't, go and take a listen cause it's, I was gonna say it's a good one. That always sounds so like full on.
        Like, I'm so amazing. Go listen to it. No. It covers a lot of good stuff. Oh man. And also, I talk about what's happening with the podcast, which is the fact that my interviews are gonna be stopping soon. So I have literally after this one, another three interviews, and that's it. And then it's just me. So if you wanna find out more on why I've done that, then obviously go back and listen to episode 267.
        But this week we have the lovely Sarah who talks about humane marketing and it's a really lovely conversation and actually probably quite an interesting one given. And I always taught love talking about this sort of stuff, and I try not to go on about it all too much because sometimes I think it can sound like we're being very negative and it's not that at all.
        I think it's helpful to have open conversations about some of these marketing tools and tactics that are used because I have fallen for them and Sarah has fallen for them. And also what I really love about this episode is we talk about how to actually do it in a way that fits with us. And she kind of has some really interesting takes on us looking at who we are rather than necessarily looking our other task straight off the bat.
        So I find that really, really interesting and she's so lovely and we've met a few times and I've been on her podcast and it's one of those people that she just kept being put back in my world and back in my world. So sometimes you have to go, I think we should be having a conversation, but it's a really, really good conversation.
        I know you're gonna like it, and like I said, enjoy it. We've only got a few of these interviews left. So I will hand you over to the lovely Sarah, and I will see you in a bit.
        Okay. I am really excited to welcome to the podcast today, the lovely Sarah Santacroce. Sarah, how are you doing?
        Sarah: I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me Teresa. It's always so fun to hang out with you.
        Teresa: And we've hung out a few times, which is lovely and very serendipitous. Kept being thrown into each other's lives, and I love it when that happens. It's like, you see someone somewhere and then something else happens. You're like, Oh, you are here again. Like, or we've been put in the same space again.
        So I just think that's the universe going in. No, you two should probably like have a conversation. Lovely. So nice. So we always start exactly the same way on the podcast where we get you to introduce yourself to my amazing audience by telling them who you are and how you got to do what you're doing today.
        Sarah: Yeah. Thank you for that. You know, I used to always go back to the professional background and you know how I became who I am today. And now that I understand the importance of being and not so much of doing, I start with my hippie upbringing. So that kind of the story I tell now because, yeah, I grew up in Hippie Commune, a small Hippie commune here in Switzerland.
        My parents and some friends bought an apartment building together and we really just colive during my whole childhood. So from age, probably two until I was, 17 and moved out, I grew up in this different way of living together, and back then, of course, I thought it was normal to me, but everyone else thought this is weird.
        You know, people walking in and out of your apartment and you know everybody and you're always eating together and all of these things that we did differently. Yeah. Were, It's just very strange to other people. Especially I remember boyfriends, you know, like who are all these people just walking in and out.
        Yeah. I'm telling that story because it really matters to me now, you know, I kind of came full circle with myself and, and growing up that way gives you a certain kind of set of values. And when I then moved away and kind of started on my own path and got into business, became an entrepreneur, I was so influenced by this business thing and how you have to be in business and you notice, well, we talked about this before, Teresa, kind of this online business and who you have to be and how you have to show up.
        And so all of these hippie values really didn't fit in that picture that maybe I, I also created myself, but definitely felt like other people were giving me this picture of what it means to be a successful online entrepreneur, especially a marketer. Right? So really kind of coming full circle and, and saying, wait a minute. You know what really matters here, even if it's in the online space or, or it doesn't matter. Like what does really matter when it comes to your relationship with your clients, with your community and, and all of that.
        And so, yeah, I, I feel like I'm coming back to those values that I grew up with and really fully showing up with those. And it seems like people, it was really scary coming out with that story. Especially on LinkedIn, right? LinkedIn is kind of like the mystic, very corporate. And now I just Yeah, absolutely embrace it and I feel so different from, you know, just even five years ago.
        Teresa: That's so good. And honestly, like this is the stuff people remember. These are the things that like that's, you know, now I could probably spend the entire time of the podcast literally asking you about this. Cause it sounds fascinating.
        And again, it's that learning what, you know, you knew no different. That was how you lived and that was your life. And that was, you know, and I know no different to how I lived. So it's just, I find it so fascinating to talk and learn and understand about how people live and how they work and how they show up in the world and, and I just think you are right, that kind of you know, upbringing to then go into something that's very business orientated and then into an online business that is very about the numbers and a very veiled attempt of being like caring about the people, when really you care about the numbers and when you hit those big numbers, it's almost impossible to give people that attention because it's just too big.
        So tell me, so my audience, describe what it is service and, and business you have today.
        Sarah: Yeah, so what I'm doing today, well maybe when I started I built a LinkedIn consulting agency and, and really just focused in on LinkedIn and helped still do with my clients today, but it's not something I'm growing anymore.
        But you know, like LinkedIn profiles, how do you use LinkedIn for business? I trained in companies and schools, et cetera, et cetera. And so then a few years ago while kind of going through this okay, who am I? What's my story? And really kind of a breakdown cuz I remember sitting on a therapist chair and just saying, look, I just don't fit into this business world anymore or maybe never have, but I've been playing this game, wearing the mask and now I'm like, I'm done with this. Really not knowing well, what am I doing then if, if I can't do that for my LinkedIn consultancy, then what is it that I'm gonna do instead? Until kind of like a few days a, after this term, the gentle business revolution came to me.
        So this idea of we need a revolution, which is kind of goes hand in hand with my hippie upbringing. You know, we need to do things differently. And the, the term gentleness, meaning like we have been doing things in such a kind of rough and business is business. Business is not personal kind of way that I felt like that's why business never worked for me or it just didn't work well for me anymore.
        And I wanted to bring more gentleness and empathy and kindness back into, into marketing and business and, and so from that term, it then became the first book and, and now I call it humane marketing due to a trademark issue I had to go through, through some kind of trademark mess. But in the end, I found a term that fits even better.
        I feel like instead of gentle, I call it now, humane marketing. So meaning, you know, humane includes the word human. So yes, it's human, but it's humane, which still means gentle and empathic and, and just kind of yeah kinder. So yeah, that's what I'm doing now. I'm basically creating a humane marketing revolution.
        Teresa: I love that. So, so good. So let's talk about then, what's, I guess what you think is, you know, what might be wrong with traditional marketing, and then what does humane marketing look like?
        Sarah: Mm-hmm. . Yeah. Well, there's so many things that I feel like are wrong with the traditional marketing, but I would say, if I had to sum it up, it really is this big gap between the human consciousness where we are now and where marketing is, and I feel like this gap is getting bigger and bigger between, you know, where we are in terms of how our consciousness has evolved, at least most peoples. And yet marketers and we as marketers are still using the same techniques. And I'm talking about the, you know, urgency strategies, the, the cookie cutter approaches, the last call and, and all these kind of things that feel very manipulative and maybe not very truthful techniques.
        And so the, the conscious client today, sees right through this. Right? And that, and that's why they've done these surveys. And, and a marketer always kind of is the least trusted professional. Why? Because we have been taught and, and kind of brainwashed into using some of these strategies that are just not based on truth.
        You know, some of them are based on human psychology and, and I don't think there's anything wrong with human psychology. But it depends how we use them, right? Yeah. How we use those techniques. And traditionally in online business, there's a lot of people who, who know about human psychology and then tell you to abuse that concept and, and, and only make it profit oriented rather than human oriented, which means, I know, you know, there is this tool, this technique that helps me get into my people's mind and, and kind of help them make a decision.
        There's nothing wrong with that, but if you trigger their pain and shame points, then there's something wrong with it, in my opinion. So that's kind of the, the, what's wrong with it? Well, we're still using these old manipulative techniques that I think they've actually been blown up over the last 10 to 15 years because like what you said before, everybody wants to always go bigger and, and it's all about the numbers.
        So obviously if you only want to focus on, sell more and go bigger, then yeah, you need to kind of but use these techniques that just are, you know, tricking people into, into buying. And so that's really the reframe that I'd like to offer. Let's use marketing, but let's use it for good, you know, because we do want to offer our services.
        And a lot of my clients are healers and they, we have great things to offer to our clients, but, but not in the, you know, not using those techniques that are just shaming people and making them feel worse.
        Teresa: Yeah, and I think there's so much here in terms of, well, first off, the first thing that came to mind is this is what you taught. Because I and weirdly, and this morning I was talking to my Becky's on my content team and I was like, And I'm thinking about my podcast going forward. What content do I need to do? And I said, I think I might go back and look at some of the podcasts I did and re-record them as in redo them because my opinion has now changed because I went through this process and I think you almost have to have gone through it, not now.
        Now you can learn from someone else, but I went through it to then go, Oh, hang on a minute. This isn't me. Like this isn't who I am. I'm following the rules. I'm following what we're told we have to do. And I was then teaching some of those rules. And then suddenly I managed to get the strength and the power to go, Do you know what this, this isn't for me.
        I don't, I don't feel nice. I don't feel this doesn't fit with me. It doesn't feel good. It doesn't feel good to meet or my customer. And actually it's not me. So I think like, you know, that's the first thing. I think we are taught these things and therefore you know, we need to and, and my job is getting my members to unlearn all the stuff that they've been taught.
        The other part of it that's tricky though. And so I'm really interested hearing where humane marketing comes and what we can do, because the problem is some of these tactics work, right? Yeah. And that's the most annoying thing in the world because they're wrong, they're horrible, they're not nice.
        But the reason people use them is because they are effective, right? And. The problem I have in my particular world is that I will get people who don't believe my membership is what it could really be because they have been used to a membership that's been sold to them in a slightly salesy sales tactic way.
        I, you know, getting them in their. You know, discounting price to be fast and to do this. And you know, and again, I'm not saying I haven't done some of this stuff in the past cause I have, but I've changed. And so they might go into a program because they fell in that very slippery slope of this marketing style, or as we like to call it, like marketing quicksand.
        They then buy the product, the product doesn't come to the thing that they want, or actually they've been let down and therefore they look at someone like me who is very ethical in how I market and genuine, and what I say I do, I do. And then they're all nervous to spend anymore money because they've been burnt already.
        Sarah: Yeah. No, totally. And I think that's where our role as humane marketers really is on lies. It's, it's like educating our communities about what they've seen and experienced before and telling them, Look, this is what is different with our programs. And here we don't do any of that, so we need to have you, It's almost like we're, we need to empower our clients because they've given up their power.
        A lot of them have given up their power because of the marketing gurus are just basically telling them, here's what you need to do. This is your problem. Buy this and you know, all your problems will be solved. Yeah. And so what we've created over the last 15 years is huge crowd of people who have given their power away to the marketing, basically. And so they're, they're not knowing how to make their own decisions anymore unless they're forced to, right? With the scarcity techniques. But the problem with the scarcity techniques, and the reason why I, I would really encourage you and everybody else to keep going with Humane Marketing is because it detracts the wrong kind of clients as well.
        Right. If you, and you know this because you know some these big names. If you look at how they're marketing and they have huge communities and you know, programs and they always pick, you know, the one or two success stories, but they don't tell you that besides the one or two success stories, there's a thousand customers each time that have absolutely done nothing.
        There's no success. They haven't even participated because they come with the scarcity energy and they sit in the scarcity energy.
        Teresa: And then they're lost in that sheer size of it. Like even if they come in with all good intentions, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna get involved, and they get, they fall, you know, down the way. Then I was thinking about one of my members just the other day, and I thought, Oh, she hasn't been on a call for ages I'm just gonna DM her. And I've just remembered actually who it was and I need to do it. But I like the fact that I can recognize someone who normally turns up and shows up and hasn't done, and that I can think, Oh, I'll drop her a DM and just see if everything is okay.
        Whereas like you said, you get lost in that massive, massive thing. And also depending on the environment. So I'm not saying all environments are like this, but sometimes the environment is very ego led. It's very, you know, kind of competitive. You know, there's lots of competitive bragging going on, and it's like, And also because what, you know, some of the mark, what some of these people want is they want these incredibly unbelievable testimonials.
        So again, they're only putting perhaps their time and attention and only talking about some of the members that have done, or the students that have done the best, most amazing thing. Whereas actually, like when I think about some of my members who have been in my club for a long time, like some of the achievements that I am like most proud of would be, I guess, to some people, very small as in that member achieved a small thing.
        But I know the effort it took to get them from one place to another and the work that went into it, and actually I know, although on the surface it, they didn't, you know, triple their income, but they're still in the job and they're still doing it and they're still showing up and they're still showing their face.
        That is a bigger achievement. As the people I've been able you know, increase their income. So yeah, it's, and, and also it's not me, it's not me who doing it. Like yeah, I can help and yeah, I can give advice and support and pick you up when you're down and cheerlead you when something amazings happened, but you have to do the work.
        And I think that's the other thing that sometimes in this marketing quick sound is that we think that this is the magic answer and it's not. We are always the answer. Yeah, we can learn some stuff. Yeah. We can have a community that helps us and keeps us motivated and accountable. But it's not, there's no magic bullet ever. I wish there was, cuz I'd have taken it flipping ages ago....
        46 min
      • How to work out your pricing to align with you and your values
        Today’s episode of the podcast is a solo episode all about knowing your value and aligning with your true North.
        I talk all about the journey I have been on recently to do this, and the changes I am going to be making to my podcast and my pricing as a result.
        I’d love to hear if any of this resonates with you, or if it prompts you to review any areas of your own business - feel free to connect with me over on social media and let me know!
         
        KEY TAKEAWAYS COVERED IN THE PODCAST
        • The journey I have been on to make changes to my pricing
        • What my pricing will look like going forward
        • How you can make sure your pricing aligns with your business
        • What to expect from the podcast going forward

        •  
          THE ONE THING YOU NEED TO REMEMBER ABOVE ALL ELSE
          You are running your business, and only you get to decide what that looks like and how you want to run it.
           
          HIGHLIGHTS YOU SIMPLY CAN'T MISS
          • Why you shouldn’t price based on meeting people where they’re at
          • Why it’s not about the tactics of how you sell, but the intent behind it
          • Why you can charge a premium price and still sell morally and ethically

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            Transcript

            Hello and welcome to this week's episode of the podcast. How are you doing?

            Okay. I think I've told you recently, or if you've been watching my socials or on my emails, that I've been doing quite some reviewing of my business and it also stemmed from the fact of when I went to Nashville and I was on that retreat. And often what happens when you take time out is your brain starts to kick in, you really start to think about things.

            And I've started working with my amazing coach Mary again, and I've been working with a couple of other business owners who are coaches. And I basically have been taking some time to review stuff, look at everything not only in my business, but also in my life, and just question myself about what makes me really happy.

            What's the thing that I love to do? What is in alignment with me? And this might sound a bit kind of heavy and a bit serious, and you might think, really, do we have to do this? But when was the last time you did that? When was the last time you sat and thought, Why am I doing the thing that I'm doing?

            Is it what I wanna do or should I be doing something else? So that's what I've been doing over the past, God knows how many weeks, and it's been a bit of a journey and a tough one really, because I've had to question stuff that I've been doing for a long time and have had to ask myself, is it really working?

            I've had to look at my products, my services, my team, how I show up, how I sell things, what price I sell them for, and I've just had to review a whole load of stuff. When I say have to, I haven't had to, but actually it has felt, the process has been hard, but it's felt so good doing it. And also when you've been doing something as long as I have, you know, this podcast is on episode 200 and whatever I just said, 67.

            It's a long flipping time. I've had the membership for four plus years. It's a long time in this world, so I think it's really worth sitting and considering things. So that's what I've been doing and that's kind of my, I dunno, my question to you about when did you last do this? Have you done this?

            Now later in the year, and I know we like in November already, I think by the time this comes out. Yeah, we are in November. Just I am actually gonna be doing a day, well, it's not a whole day, it's a few hours and it's gonna be online where we do a workshop where we can plan next year and do a review of your business. And it just gives you the head space just to sit and with some guidance from me, go through stuff and question stuff, and then also have that community of people for that time period in which you can say, this is my thought, what do you think? And you can get some feedback from them. So I am actually gonna be offering that, but I will tell you about that in later podcasts and in a few weeks time, once we've got everything sorted for that. But I am excited about that cause I do love doing this kind of thing.

            And the people that I work with who do this kind of planning and goal setting and strategy and just thinking about them and their business, they're the ones who I've seen make the biggest moves and the biggest impact. And have got through those blocks because sometimes we need to review those things to see where we are being held back, to see where our business is not succeeding and where we can make a change. And sometimes that changes to us. Sometimes we have to make the change and it's us. That's the problem, as is most often the case, if I'm honest, especially in my business.

            So today, what I wanna talk to about today, I wanna talk to you about pricing and how in my undercover work that I've been doing, I have decided and discovered that me and my pricing are not in a line, and there are many reasons for this.

            So I know working out pricing is one of the hardest things for me and my business. It really, really is difficult to work out. How and what I price at, and I know it's the same for everybody else, but the thing is I can do it for other people with ease. In fact, it's one of my things I love doing the most.

            I love doing the math. I love working stuff out, and I love giving my members, my community, the confidence to go out and charge what they charge. As a side, and I wasn't gonna talk about this actually, but it was such a nice example. I had a session with one of my members the other week as she won an hour with me.

            And in that hour we wanted to go through pricing and basically we spent the hour. In fact, we ended up spending one hour, cause I'm soft and can't help myself. But we did it over a couple of sessions. We went through all her pricing and we looked to everything and we worked on her confidence in terms of how she could charge more.

            And it's not always as simple as just charge more. That isn't always the case, it has to be a considered thing. I have to know who you are, what you do, how much you charge to know whether you should be charging more. But in her case, she should be. So we went through and we kind of not only did a very practical exercise, but also a more coaching exercise to give her the confidence to then look at how she put her pricing up.

            And then I did it in a really strategic way. So I literally helped her create a spreadsheet and I created this spreadsheet where she just plugged in the various elements of what she offered and that gave her her price. She did something that was very, she was a wedding stationary designer, so things like adding on the cost of a ribbon, you know, was pretty straightforward.

            So we did that, and we went through and we created this spreadsheet and it kind of took the nervousness away from her cuz she could literally just plug in the pricing and then it would go, This is what you have to bud them or this is what you should charge them. So she did it and her first two came back and the first one actually said they'd been to someone else, so she sent the pricing. So that was the first thing, like the bravery and that amazing. And she messaged me going, Oh my God, I've just sent this pricing. And I was like, Brilliant. She said, I'll just wait and see what they say. I said, Well, that's, that's by the buy almost at this point.

            So one, one came back and said, Can you do it for cheaper? And we then looked at how we could negotiate in terms of not just dropping the price, but what can we change about their order in order to make it cheaper. Then the other person came back and said Yes and didn't even question it. So I was over the moon and that's what I mean when it's easy for me to look at someone else's business and go, this is what you should charge. It's so much harder for me to do it for myself. So in this episode, I'm gonna talk you through how I have come to the conclusion about my pricing and how I've changed it and why I've changed it.

            But also, before we jump into that too much, I want to update you on something else. One of the other things I've changed, through this whole business review. So the podcast, like I said, I've been doing it for a really long time and I've interviewed some of the most phenomenal people. I have been very lucky.

            You know, if you've been listening to the podcast for a while, I've had the likes of Michael Hyatt, Mary Hyatt, Megan Hyatt. I've basically had the whole Hyatt family, which is pretty phenomenal. I've had a Porterfield Ding, Graziossi, Denise, Duffel Thomas. I've got Sigrun coming up in a few weeks time. I've got, I've had James Wedmore.

            I've had, oh God, I can't even think so many amazing people. So, and people who are top of my, their game and some people who I was a huge fan of and now I'm not so much a huge fan of, and some people who I just discovered kind of later on. And so anyway, lots and lots of different people, different thoughts.

            And in the last few kind of, I don't know, . I was gonna say years, but I guess it is years. I've been really picky about who comes onto the podcast because I only want the best people and also the people that I'm having on now has changed. So some of the people I've had on in the past, I wouldn't have on again.

            And given the choice, they're not my bag anymore, but that's fine. People change, we learn different things, we discover different things, and we decide. You know what we like and what we don't like. But like I said, I've been really picky, but recently I've been thinking, how can I shake up the podcast? I've been doing it for a long time.

            How can I just, I don't know, make it fit with me a bit more? How can I make it easier? And this is a question I ask my members all the time, and especially in the executive club when they are struggling. You know, I asked them to think about what if it was easy. So I did this with the podcast and I was like, well, what's the difficult bit about the podcast?

            Well, the difficult bit is we get an absolute ton of applications, like not even joking, anywhere between one and three a day, and the processing of those applications is huge. And also there's a lot of people, I don't want to come on the podcast cuz I don't think they serve you as well as I would like them to.

            And also because I am interviewing people that I don't necessarily know anymore. It's really tricky, it's not been an easy thing. Sometimes I interview someone and think, Oh, and you're really not my bag, or, that wasn't as good as I'd have hoped. And there's that whole thing about do I allow the episode to go out?

            Do I not allow it? Do I upset the person? It's hard. And then there's the whole, like I said, work that goes along with a processing all these applications, managing them all, booking them in. And it just got exhausting. So I surveyed some people, I reached out to some specific people that I know listen to the podcast cuz they, they speak to me about it and I asked them what do they like?

            And they all said they like short episodes. And I get it right, the world has changed. No longer are you on long drives to offices or to a different office. You're working from home. You're probably listening to this well, doing something else as I always do, getting ready in the morning or making some food or whatever it might be.

            Maybe it is on the school run, but a school run isn't gonna be an hour long or hopefully not. So I've decided to make some changes. The first change is I'm not interviewing anybody else anymore. Now I have got some interviews in the bag that need, that I will honor and put out, and I think that's about a four.

            So you've probably got another few weeks of interviews that are coming up. So I've got, still got some interviews, but after that I'm going to take a break. And it's not to say that I'm never gonna interview anyone again. It might just be the case of. I don't interview anyone for a while, or if someone amazing comes along like Brene Brown, Anytime you want Brene, you can come on the podcast.

            Glen and Doyle, I'll love to interview you too. Like there are some amazing people I would love to interview and if they come along great, I will obviously bite their hand off, but I am not interviewing as a normal standard thing. So my episodes are now going to be so low and they're going to be short to the point and fairly practical.

            And sometimes I'll talk about, you know, practices that I do personally and mindset wise and mindfulness wise. And sometimes I will give you very practical advice about marketing and social media and strategy and business. So it's going to be a bit of a mix, but I'm just gonna try it and see what I think like, and I think this is the message I'm trying to put out to you in terms of this and when we get back to the money conversation is it's your business you get to decide. So that's what's happening with the podcast. I wanted to update you that I know I was literally starting one conversation and I've jumped into this one, but I wanted to make sure that you know where we're at with that. Okay. But like I said, next few weeks, I think probably still about four episodes that our interview still to come. So it, it'll be a little while yet until that stops.

            So let's get back to the pricing. So how do you know that you're in alignment with you and your pricing? So one of the things I did is I wanted to think about, why I price at the price that I do. And I was asked this and I had a coach help me with this.

            The amazing Mary help me with this. So this isn't a, something that I did on my own because as I've already said to you to do it on your own is very difficult. So I basically sat and talked to Mary and we went through a session and we looked at why I price the way I price, and is it in alignment to my values and me.

            Some of the things I had to do to work this out was think about why I've put it at that price. Now, As I've said to you before, and I was really honest about why I stopped the $19 level. I was trying to meet other people where they were and that wasn't in alignment with me and who I am. I have been in marketing a very long time, as I constantly talk about, you're probably bored of it now.

            I have a degree in it. I've worked for some of the biggest brands on the planet and I consult at, at a high level or have consulted at a high level. And now I have some, you know, amazing programs that I offer right to people which vary in cost and start at a lower cost, but, what I'm trying to do or what I have been trying to do is meet people where they're at.

            And the other reason I priced the way I priced was not only to meet people where they're at, because I'm trying to be affordable for people who can't necessarily afford a lot of money, or they're just new in their journey and they're starting up. But also, I didn't wanna be seen as unethical or immoral.

            So, you know, I have a real be in my bonnet about the way that people sell online and how people sell and some of the tactics that they use. And actually, it's never about the tactic, it's the intent behind it. And I think that basically I started off my journey, and again, this was all through coaching with Mary that we discovered this. I started off my journey and I was following what the expert said because I didn't know any better. And so I'm one end of the pendulum, and then I realize I don't like what they're saying. And actually this doesn't, this isn't in line with me. I don't want to feel that, you know, I'm doing this sleazy, horrible selling, and I'm using underhand tactics. So I basically swung from one end of the pendelum.

            Right the way through to the other end, and then suddenly offered a very low price thing. Felt like I had to be available to everybody all the time, and it was almost like I literally did the complete opposite of everything that they said, which I'm not saying is a bad thing. I'm just saying I'm explaining my journey, but I took it to be that if I was being moral and I was selling ethically, I couldn't charge a higher price. I took it to mean that doing that meant you sell at a low cost and that isn't the case. And I had this kind of brainwave the other day when someone was interviewing me and we were talking about cars and, and also I'd written some emails that'll be coming out this week where I'm talking about handbags, right?

            So two examples. One, we went to Turkey, my husband and I, I wasn't expecting the whole day to be all that. And it was actually, it was really, really lovely. Turkey's lovely place. Well, we were over in Turkey. There is a mall called Quality Mall. Now, if anything's got the word quality in front of it, fairly confident it's not.

            And I got there and seriously, and I do not know how they get away with this stuff, but everything in this mall was, came to fit or fake or, and literally, I dunno, how do they get away with it? Anyway, so my husband and I are walking around, obviously not knowing that this is what this mall is about, but literally like, you know, Louis Vuitton, Gucci, all the watches, all the jewelry, all the bags, even clothes, like everything. And my husband joked with me and he went, Do you want a Louis Vuitton handbag? Cause he knows I would like a Louis Vuitton handbag. And I was like, Yeah, no. Yeah, I want one. I do not want a fake one. I want the, the knowledge that I can afford to buy one of those handbags.

            The same thing came in the example I gave on the podcast interview with cars. You know, I have a very nice car, but I would quite like a Tesla. And I got my stepson, who is car mad to speak out what I would want in a Tesla, and it came in about 120 grand, 110 grand, something like that. And, I thought to myself, if Tesla said, Oh, you can have a car for seven grand, would I want it?

            No, I wouldn't because again, I want the 110, and I would think if it was either cheap or fake, I'd think, well, it's not the real thing or it's not as good as the real thing. And I think that was the problem because when I look at all my, who I am as a person, and my personality and my values, and the example I give in my emails this week is I talk about the different things, the different personality tests I've done.

            So I'm an enneagram three, which is described as self-accepting, authentic, being a role model, and inspiring others. I'm an E N F J on the Myers Briggs. Which are born leaders, they can be found as politicians and coaches and teachers they're passionate and charisma allows them to inspire others, not just in their careers, but in every arena of their lives, including relationships.

            And it says things like, you know, they wanna

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          • How a holistic approach to business and life can create a thriving empire with Aleya Harris
            Today’s episode of the podcast is a solo interview with Aleya Harris, CEO and Founder of Flourish Marketing.
            I brought Aleya on to talk about story brand, a really powerful way of thinking about your customer and your product, and what you offer. But we also had an amazing conversation about bioenergetics and how you can use it to get clear on who you are in your brand, and it was so interesting!
            I’m sure you’re going to love this episode, and I can’t wait to hear what you think.
             
            KEY TAKEAWAYS COVERED IN THE PODCAST
            • How you can implement authenticity in your day-to-day business 
            • How you can use BioEnergetics to to get clear on who you are in your brand
            • How radically authentic brand messaging can change the game for your life and business
            • The power of using storytelling to sell

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              THE ONE THING YOU NEED TO REMEMBER ABOVE ALL ELSE
              It's not the facts and the figures that captivate our attention, it’s the stories and the transformation! When marketing our business, we need to stop getting so caught up in the detail of our products and services and focus on how we help people.
               
              HIGHLIGHTS YOU SIMPLY CAN'T MISS
              • How the cycle of giving and receiving works
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              • How our brain works in the framework of story

              • LINKS TO RESOURCES MENTIONED IN TODAY’S EPISODE
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                Transcript
                Hello and welcome to this week's episode of the podcast. How are you doing? So this week I am interviewing the lovely Aleya Harris. It was funny cuz I brought her on to talk about the story brand because she basically trains in the, in the Story brand. If you don't know it, it's a book by Donald Miller. His name literally jumped out my head. I was about to say it, and I did some training on it with her and I did some training on it at my event in September.
                Because it's a really powerful way of thinking about your customer and your product and what you offer and how you do it and that sort of thing. So if you haven't read Building a Story brand, then I would definitely check that out. But I bo on to talk about that. And then we ended up talking slightly different about that she basically uses something called bioenergetics. Energetics, I think that's what she said, to look at how to get clear on who you are and your brand and all sort of things. So we went down a bit of a rabbit hole there, but it was a really good conversation. But also this woman's voice, Oh my goodness. It is amazing.
                So, you know, you might not wanna listen to this while driving or doing the machinery or whatever, you know, like they say with the meditation, just cause her voice is so amazing. So I'm sure you're gonna love this episode today, and I am not gonna waste any more of your time. I'm gonna hand you over to the amazing Aleya.
                So I am so excited today to welcome to the podcast the amazing Aleya Harris. Aleya, how are you doing?
                Aleya: I am doing great. Thanks so much for having me, Teresa. I've been looking forward to this conversation for what feels like forever.
                Teresa: Honestly. I am very excited. We connected a while back. When I came on your podcast, I was, I was interviewed for yours and then you very kindly help me with some stuff to do, story brand, and then I'd got you booked in and I was waiting for this date to come. So I'm really excited not only because you're just amazing. And every conversation we've had has been phenomenal, but also your voice is like.
                Aleya: Thank you. I have someone on my team that says, I just need you to record yourself seeing the ABCs so that I can just go off to Dreamland. I love it. Honestly, it's the best I have yet to do that for. I probably should.
                Teresa: You should. You should. And and things like,
                Aleya: You have an amazing voice too though.
                Teresa: Well, thank you. But I think like things like meditations. Oh boy. I'd love to hear your voice do meditation.
                Aleya: I do have, and that on the Flourishing Entrepreneur Podcast, my podcast, there are some meditation episodes.
                Teresa: Oh, I'm gonna go and hunt them down straight up.
                Aleya: Go and hunt them down.
                Teresa: I love it. I love it. So we always start the podcast exactly the same way, which I'm sure must bore my audience, but we're gonna go with it anyway by introducing yourself and telling us how you got to do what you do.
                Aleya: Absolutely. So, hello everybody. My name is Aleah Harris. I am the CEO and founder of Flourish Marketing. Flourish Marketing is a boutique marketing agency that focuses on messaging, strategy, and copywriting that helps our empire building clients become radically authentic. So we're a little bit different. We have a three part strategic approach. First, we help you get real by unearthing any of your energy blocks.
                So you're already, you're probably like, wait, I thought you said you were a marketing company. We are , I promise. But we take a new approach to marketing. One that is very much into helping you develop your unique and theft proof story. And you can't do that if you don't know what it is. So we help you figure out what that is.
                Then we use StoryBrand and intuitive guidance to help you translate that story into clear messaging so other people can understand what it is. And then we write copies so that that story goes everywhere. And eventually you hear your story coming back to you from your clients, from your audience, from your friends, and you cannot boost up your legend status.
                But I've been a marketer for. I don't know, over a decade. And the fact that I can even sit here and say all of that, and it sounds like, Ooh, it's a package. Oh, she practiced that so years. Years, right to get here. It's, it's been through a journey of being laid off twice, being a private chef and traveling the world and being with stars of music and, and screen.
                Being the head of marketing for a huge company, working at Google as a vendor partner and going through a pandemic where I decided to start a business that only cater to the wedding catering events industry. That I didn't know was gonna be a problem because I didn't know a pandemic was coming to resiliently standing here before you.
                Teresa: I love that.
                Aleya: Having to have unearthed what my radically authentic story was along the way and translated it.
                Teresa: That is so good. What a journey like. And you know what I love? So obviously you come from marketing background. I come from marketing background. And I am learning to love the world of the Woo. Okay. I love all of it. I was messaging my group the other day going, It's a full moon. What are we doing? Like, give me all your best.
                Aleya: Who's rituals and rituals happening, right? I don't wanna date the podcast, you know? But there is a full moon and every full moon is at a different signs, and you have different ritual. Yeah girl, I'm right there.
                Teresa: Honestly, honestly. So I am loving all this personally. But, I love the fact that you bring the two parts together. How did that come about? Like was it always a thing or did you find one than the other? How did it work?
                Aleya: Well, I've been a marketer from the beginning. I actually am one of those rare people who went to school. For marketing and I'm doing
                Teresa: Me too. I knew we should estimate honestly. Yeah. I, I ha have a degree of marketing, which is so rare.
                Aleya: Yeah, it's very rare. Most people are like, I have a degree in American literature. And it's like, that's actually would serve you quite well. But, so marketing's always been a thing. As I've grown, I realized that spirituality and energy work was also always a thing. I just didn't know it. I didn't know I was doing it, didn't know that people were coming to me for it. I would just be a really good friend that gave really good advice. And I just thought that, you know, I just was a good friend. I gave good advice. I didn't realize the, the, the power that I was kind of tapping into.
                And then I went to a seminar called Insight Seminars and it changed my perspective on myself. There was a lot of crying, a lot of snot involved over several days. And I unearthed a part of me that I had not really been in touch with yet. It, you know, started clearing out some past trauma, clearing out a lot of insecurities, clearing out my limiting beliefs and my limiting character. And then I was like, Oh, I'm starting to actually meet myself for the first time and I went to three of these seminars and at one of them I met the most beautiful woman ever inside and out. Her name is Monica Lasky and she's my spiritual coach and friend and the god, one of the godmothers for my kid, like really close to this woman now. Right.
                Teresa: Love it.
                Aleya: And she helped me really pinpoint and identify what my spiritual gifting was, and I started working as a spiritual coach myself on the side, right? But I am not a side hustle kind of person. I'm like a, let's do it like, and go all in. Like, worry if I'm gonna do it, let's do it. So doing multiple things at once doesn't allow me to really live in my best purpose, in my best way. And she introduced me to this system called, uh, the Nest Health System.
                It's a bioenergetic system that helps people. Yes, with the spiritual component, but it really looks at it through the realm of quantum physics and traditional Chinese medicine. And it took the things that I had developed, the, the, the spiritual tools I developed with inside of me and it popped it out in like a software readout that was color coded.
                And I was like, This is amazing because this is, if I was gonna work with a business owner, they need to see things in more like black and white, hard, just x ma'am. So once I had that tool, I felt like I had an in. And so I started doing bioenergetic business coaching, combining the spiritual side and the energy side with the business side, and people started getting amazing results.
                I had, you know, one person who was so blocked because of all whole bunch of things. We used the system, it kind of fast tracks a lot of that inner work by like spitting out like, Girl, this is what's wrong with you. Right in front of you so you can't ignore it. And she's hadn't created content in like six months for her business and content was how she generated most of her revenue.
                And then within a week or two of us working together, she had created three months of content within like a couple of days because she felt unblock and open right. So once I started seeing that type of stuff, I was like, Oh, why am I, I might be onto something. And I started really promoting it and getting it out there.
                And now we incorporate it into our retainer product and our strategy session. So when you come to us for marketing strategy, the very first thing you'll do is a bioenergetic business coaching scan, and then I'll review it with you during your strategy session. We use tools to unlock what's going on with you. And we incorporate that into your messaging because my goal is to help you get to the next level. And you can't do that if you keep running up against the same block that got you to this level, right? So a lot of the times it's around work. I work with a lot of women, a lot of the times it's wrong wariness, lack of forgiveness, usually lack of forgiveness of self, which people don't really think about. They're like, Oh, I didn't ever forgive my mom for, you know, not being there for being so hard on me. And it's like, that also needs to happen, but the real person need to forgive is yourself. And so we work through and I give them exercises because on a call, we're not gonna solve world world hunger here.
                Right?
                Teresa: No.
                Aleya: I give them the exercises we work through getting. That unlocked, so then I can ask questions like, If you didn't feel unworthy, what would you price this at? Right, because for me, that was part of my journey. My unworthiness had me pricing a product that should have been probably like $10,000 and we charged 7,500 for it, at $600. Right? So if I am doing that same work for other people in a much shorter time frame without ayahuasca trips to the Amazon with tons of bug spray, and then we're using it to make them money most more immediately in their messaging. So I, put it all together because I saw that that was what was needed and it's even needed even more.
                Now, if you think about like the Great Recession and Quiet quitting and the Great resignation and all of that, people are basically saying, I've had time at home over the pandemic to figure out who the heck I am and what I want, and this ain't it. And business owners are kind of in a tough spot because that they still aren that same realization.
                But who do you quit from? You can't be like your, your friends who can put their nine to five and go find themselves into bet, right? You are your boss, so how do you. Either you do quit from yourself, you go get a job, you start another business, you whatever, or you make what you have now truly in alignment with who you are.
                And that's what most of my clients are trying to do. Not only align with who they are, but with who their clients are now.
                Teresa: I love all this stuff. Okay? So the world as we know, the magic, the world's magic. The universe is magic. Some people might call it serendipitous, but whatever you call it. So literally last week I was in Nashville at a healing retreat with the amazing Mary Hyatt, and the whole retreat was around being aligned and how do we know if we're aligned and the, we did the retreat, which was like Thursday to Sunday, and then I went back to hers and stayed with her until the tuesday morning, and then we flew over to LA. And on the Monday night, we got into a whole another coaching conversation around my business and suddenly it's like, it's kind of like what you're saying.
                It was like this realization of, oh, hang on. None of this is quite adding up. Like, you know, you've got this thing over here and you love it, but the pricing isn't quite reflecting the service and the people you're attracting isn't the right thing. And suddenly it was like, oh man, this is, this is like not quite like we're very close, but it almost feels like you know, like on some movie when they're trying to get some treasure and they click one thing and suddenly everything goes...
                Aleya: yep Yep Yep! And the door open. And then you see the golden figurine on the inside. You've been searching for this whole time.
                Teresa: Yes, a hundred percent. And it feels like I am at the start of the journey to discover that. It feels like I am now just asking the questions and like, so I'm loving the sound of this bioenergetic business, business coaching scan. Like I'm now just asking the right questions. Now I'm trying to like piece it together with all the tools that I've got on all the things that I've been do. So even looking at things like the Enneagram and you know, I do things like, I've done money archetype stuff. So for instance, on with Denise Duffield Thomas, my money archetype is celebrity. Okay. So basically I like,
                Aleya: I have to cries anybody does have to cry. Anyone that's listening. Shouldn't it ?
                Teresa: No, honestly, like Denise, when I interviewed her, she said, Have you done a test? I was like, I think I have, but I can't remember, you're a celebrity. And I was like, okay, thanks. And I was, which is hilarious, but it's like, so I've got this and my values, one of my values in my business is about sort of, you know, the VIP experience, luxury. And then, and then for a while I had a $19 product and it's like soup's, luxury Teresa went to Dallas.
                Honestly, like Woo. Spend that big money. Like, and even when it comes down to my one-to-one program and it comes down to other stuff and like having this conversation with, with someone like Mary, who's good someone like you who, can help you just kind of unpack this stuff. And it's not, like you said, when we're sat here as business centers, we can't go. Yeah, I'm just gonna close that all day and we'll just stop a, we'll just stop a read.
                That's not gonna happen. And also, you know, you've got money coming through the door, you need that money coming through the door. But to sit and look at it and go. Actually is this right? Is this fitting with all these different parts inside me? Which, when you look at it, then go, yeah, that doesn't make sense. Like you know if that's understandable that no one bought that. When this is what I talk about and actually this is where I should target, and it's just, I flip and love it. I love that.
                Aleya: It's interesting too. I love what you said about, it's not quite right, it's very close. So a lot of the times people get terrified to do this type of work because they're like, I'm gonna go to aleya. They get, they're always scared their session always and I'm like, I am don't think I'm scary. And they're like, It's not you. I'm scared of what I'm gonna unearth and you're gonna tell me I'm gonna like need to go out and join the circus. You're probably not that far away. Which is the actually the most infuriating place to be. It's like you're in this fog and you know that the door handle is somewhere right out of arm's reach like inches away from your fingertips and you just need to find it. But you've been in this fog for a long time, and our job is to clear the fog, my job, right? Because if you can just get your little hot little hands on that door handle.
                You're already amazing. That's how you got here in the first place. I don't need to help you turn the door. You got, you got it. You got the keys, you got the whole key ring on your, it's just finding...
                51 min
              • The science behind the ‘woo’
                Today’s episode of the podcast is a solo episode all about why I’m no longer going to be using the word ‘woo’.
                As you know, I am a huge advocate for all things spiritual and the benefits that it brings to running a business. However, recently I have decided that I want to stop referring to it as ‘woo’, because that implies it’s silly, or based in fantasy - and it’s really not!
                I have been doing a lot of research into the scientifically proven benefits of this work, and I am so excited to share it with you and can’t wait to hear what you think.
                 
                KEY TAKEAWAYS COVERED IN THE PODCAST 
                ●     The science behind spiritual practices
                ●     The connection between the prefrontal cortex and the amygdala in managing stress
                ●     What manifesting is and the science behind it
                ●     The science behind vision boards
                ●     The benefits of journaling and how writing improves your health
                 
                THE ONE THING YOU NEED TO REMEMBER ABOVE ALL ELSE
                The more we try to bring our brain into focus, the more it will look for opportunities for us to fulfill our dreams.
                 
                HIGHLIGHTS YOU SIMPLY CAN'T MISS 
                ●     What neural plasticity is and how it changes our brain
                ●     The importance of having a positive thought
                ●     How meditation and gratitude can change your brain
                 
                Transcript
                 

                Hello, and I really will welcome to this week's episode of the podcast. How are you doing? I hope you're having a good start to your week or have had a great week whenever you are listening to this. So, this week I want to talk about the world of Woo. Right, now don't switch off if you're thinking, no, I can't bear this stuff.

                Recently, have kind of come to a thought that I want to stop using the word Woo. Cuz to me that word implies silliness, not real fantasy, flippant. Just not, yeah, it just doesn't, say like what it is really, it just kind of makes it like it's a silly, stupid thing. And I've been doing, as you may know, I've been doing a coaching qualification, a spiritual coaching qualification, and during the process of doing that and during my own process of going through things and looking at things, there is actually a ton of science behind this woo stuff.

                So what I've been doing over the past week or so prior to putting together this recording, I've been googling and searching and looking and looking at case studies and reports and various other wonderful things to kind of understand the science behind some of this stuff. And I want to go over with you today how this stuff is scientifically proven even if you think it wasn't, and I've picked a few of the obvious things that we will look at or that people might describe as woo. So buckle in, we're about to learn some stuff.

                Okay! So the first thing you need to know is there's something called neuroplasticity. Now this is, this happens, right most of the things I'm gonna talk about David, which is why I'm talking about it first. So it's known as brain plasticity and it's basically the brain's ability to change and adapt. As a result of an experience, and this is important because actually so many of the things that we do, this is where it is changing our brain. So this isn't just a, oh, that's nice to do, and is it really doing anything? A lot of this stuff is changing our brain and it's doing it through this thing called neuroplasticity or that's what's happening to our brain.

                So for instance, let's start with meditation. So I did some research and I found a study that basically scanned the prefrontal cortex. So the prefrontal cortex is where we have cognitive control over things such as memory organization and executive decision making. And the brain is made up of gray matter and white matter. And the gray matter is the bit that serves to process information and it's where most of the brain's cells are. So, it has been proven that as we get older, our brain shrinks and the gray matter shrinks, and the prefrontal cortex obviously being part of the brain also shrinks.

                And a study was done with people who meditated. And it showed that a 50 year old had the same gray matter as a 21 year old, so the 50 year old that meditated had the same gray matter as a 21 year old. And the same can happen with things like gratitude. It helps your brain deal with resilience, it helps change the brain through that neuroplasticity and helps your brain reshape itself and helps you become more resilient.

                Now, another part of the brain is called the amygdala. These names like, I'm not good at reading these names. So the amygdala is responsible for emotions, emotional behavior, and motivations. It's the fight or flight, and basically what they showed was according to neuroscience research, mindfulness, are a sort of meditation, gratitude, practices dampen activity in the, I'm gonna say it again, amygdala, and increases the connection between the amygdala and the prefrontal cortex. Both parts of the brain help us to be less reactive to stresses and recover better from stress when we experience it. So, Meditating and being grateful actually can change your brain so that you deal with stress better so that you don't forget things that you can make decision making, you have better memory. So these all proven things from research that I found online from like real places.

                Okay, so let's talk next about journaling. Okay? So obviously one of things I talk about, I didn't explain meditation cause you know that one of the other things I do is I journal. And there's a few different things it's also sometimes called morning pages if you've read the artist's way. And journaling is basically, it almost comes from like writing a diary, but you tend to talk about more emotion led things when you journal or figuring things out. So I found some research on the science behind journaling and it said keeping a diary has a big impact on the, on your overall happiness. As well as supporting conditions like depression and anxiety, it, this has a knock on effect like your general stress levels and your quality of sleep. So not only will you be a bit calmer, but apparently you sleep better if you journal. There are many cognitive benefits from journaling for those looking to boost their memory function. The habit of expressive writing has a strong link to increasing memory capacity, and there's also a link to personal performance on a kind of how self-reflection can help boost your productivity. So doing that self reflection and that's what it is. And in fact, that for me, that's what kind of the mindfulness stuff is and the practices that I do. It's all about the awareness of self and awareness of you and what you do and how you do it.

                It also went on, another study went on to say that basically a groundbreaking study of writing. Writing's physical effect appeared in the Journal of American Medical Association. Three years ago, the study led by Smythe basically took 107 asthma and rheumatoid arthritis patients and basically asked them to journal out on their emotions. And they asked them to journal about their most stressful events of their lives. And then with another group, they basically got them to write about a neutral subject. And then four months after write, after the writing exercise, 70 patients in the stressful writing group showed an improvement on objective clinical evaluations compared with 37 of the control panel, which were the people who just wrote about their day neutral stuff. In additions to those who wrote about stress improved more and deteriorated less. So basically he wrote that, so writing helps patients get better and also keep them from getting worse, which is just insane to think that writing can actually improve your health.

                Okay, another study also showed that writing could help cool down our brains and therefore, control our state of worrying and that we wouldn't worry as much. Okay. What else have I got here? So the other thing I did some research on was manifesting because that I think can be fairly seen as a fairly woo thing and you know, is manifestation really a thing.

                So what is manifestation? So it basically means that you turn an idea into reality. So research by Carol Dweck clearly shows that believing you can do something makes it more likely that you'll successfully do it. And then another research said that ultimately the science suggests that our beliefs can bring about behaviors that will lead to the outcomes we desire. So if we believe that something is gonna happen, I, we manifesting it, then that can help bring about behaviors that will then bring about the results.

                Research shows that our expectations, positive or negative, tend to be confirmed. This is known as a self-fulfilling prophecy. So if we expect to bring our idea to life or reach a goal, we are more likely to. So it's that whole thing and I always give the analogy, which is a good one, that basically says, the whole thing of like, you know, when you are looking to buy a particular car in a particular color, suddenly you see that car and that color everywhere. And it's not that suddenly there was more cars on the road, it's just that your awareness is heightened to it. So because your awareness is heightened to it, it means that you are looking out for those things. The same way is if you do a vision board or if you have, if you manifest, if you do any of those things, then you are basically going to be looking out for more opportunities to be able to fulfill those goals.

                Then there was some research by Dr. Barbara Fredrickson showed that positive emotions enable us to think more creatively. Similarly, another doctor has shown that happiness leads to success and not the other way around. So people who are generally happy and positive attract more opportunities and have better relationships and seem to be able to manifest what they set their minds to more easily.

                So again, it's that whole thing of, you know, when you think about, you know, positive mental attitude, manifesting, dreaming, imagining, you know, I, I think I've told the story. I definitely told it on a few podcasts that go, but it was last week. How funny is that? When I was talking to Dan about when I took that first class flight, like I dreamed and imagined and saw every single thing of it, it was so clear in my head, and I'm not saying that's what got me onto the flight or whether it was just really quick processing by the esta people, but I really love the idea of having that positive thought. And this morning Phil and I had a executive club coaching call and we were talking about this, we were talking about what's going on in the news at the moment and what's going on in the world. And, and I'm very cautious when I talk about stuff that's not to belittle it and not to make out, like it's not a real thing and it's not important that, you know, the UK are having a bit of a financial crisis.

                However, I personally don't watch any of it because the only thing I can control is me and whether, you know, living in my little bubble of the world that I choose to see is real or not, or has an effect or not, it actually just feels nicer. So that's why I decide to stay there. Whether it's doing the thing that it should be doing, I, if you're manifesting and I'm dreaming of big amazing things, whether it actually works or whether you just do it so you're not worrying and you're not thinking about those things. I mean, either way, I am happy.

                Okay, so then what else have I got? I also did some research on vision boards, so just in case you're not short, a vision board is basically, it's a bit like. Well, you can do it various ways. You can either do it digitally in something like canva and basically you find pictures of the life you want and things you want and you know. So on my vision board I had that, I wanted to do a TEDx and I did do a TEDx and I had like, I wanted to speak it inbound and I did, and then, not that I admit this to her, but on there was a picture of Force Field and I was like, I wanna become friends with her and I did. Like, and I'm not necessarily saying it's all down to the vision board, but this is the science behind vision boards. So basically you imagine what you want your life to look like or what goals you wanna achieve, and you physically either cut out images from magazines or print them off and stick them onto a board, or you create a digital board of like what your, your vision is for the future.

                So the research that, this all might sound quite mystical, but vision boards are in fact rooted in neuroscience. Neuroscience is so clever. So, tara, swart. Swart? Is that what you say to the name? I dunno. S W A R T. I guess so. Explains Looking at images on a vision board, primes the brain to grasp opportunities that may otherwise have gone unnoticed. This is because your brain has a process called value tagging, which imprints important things onto your subconscious and filters out unnecessarily information. Your brain assigns a higher value to the images than written words on a to-do list. And the more you look at those images, the more the images move up in importance.

                And then she goes on, say, and there's a way that you can boost this activity. For example, if you look at your board right before you fall asleep every night, the images will be imprinted even further. That's because your brain is very impressionable as it rest into sleep. And so if you focus your attention on something during that period, particularly on something new, those images are more likely to feature in your dreams and thoughts.

                So again, it's the same kind of thing as when we talk about manifesting and it's very similar, it's just two different methods that basically the more we try and bring our brain into focus and think about these things, the more they will look for opportunity for us to try and, and find them and actually fulfill them.

                There was also a really interesting study that basically took some pianists, some people who played the piano, brought 'em into a, into a lab, and got them to play the piano, and while they were playing the piano, they scanned their brains and they saw what part of the brain lit up for the point in which they were playing the piano so they could see when they played the piano, this part of the brain lit up.

                Then they got 'em back in and they got them to sit there and imagine they were playing the piano. Imagine they were doing the same thing, but just with their hands flat. Just sat there with their eyes closed, and the same part, their brain lit up as when they were actually playing the piano. And the reason this was so powerful and the reason that this was so important was because of the fact that it proved to a degree that your brain doesn't know the difference between imagination or reality.

                Now, I'm sure there's some brain scientists out there who would go a bit deeper and, and explain a bit more about that. But what this means is the more that we can imagine, the more that we can dream, the more that we can visualize, the more that we have a chance of actually getting there. Whereas if you never dream about it, never think about it. And that's why things like we do goal setting, that's why you have things like vision balls. That's why we meditate and journal and manifest and do all of those things.

                So, I wanted to give you just a real quick overview of some of the science behind some of the practices that I talk about. Which I will be trying my absolute utmost not to call Woo, from now on because there is proper science behind why these things work. So it's not as silly and as frivolous as maybe people once think. Okay, I'm gonna leave you to it. I'm back next week with a podcast interview. Until then, have a wonderful week.

                16 min
              • How to create a vision strong enough to manifest your dreams with Dan Mangena
                Today’s episode of the podcast is an interview with Dan Mangena. Dan supports spiritually and entrepreneurial minded people who want 360 degrees of abundance.
                 
                I absolutely loved this episode, the conversation we had and the topics that came up are really fitting with who I am and what I'm learning right now - so I really hope you enjoy it too!
                 
                KEY TAKEAWAYS COVERED IN THE PODCAST
                 
                ●     What money mindset and manifesting abundance means
                ●     How our emotional state impacts our ability to think
                ●     Why money is just numbers on a screen
                ●     The power of reframing your negative thoughts into positive ones
                ●     Why your environment is a perfect reflection of the blueprint that you're holding mentally
                 
                THE ONE THING YOU NEED TO REMEMBER ABOVE ALL ELSE
                 
                If you don't have clarity, it doesn't matter what you say or do, you're always going to be running around in a circle.
                 
                HIGHLIGHTS YOU SIMPLY CAN'T MISS
                 
                ●     How to turn money mindset and abundance into a practical thing
                ●     How to create a vision strong enough to manifest your dreams
                ●     Why you need to bring something closer to you, to be able to let it go
                 
                LINKS TO RESOURCES MENTIONED IN TODAY’S EPISODE
                 
                Free Resources from Dan
                Dan’s Instagram
                Dan’s Twitter
                 
                TRANSCRIPT
                 
                Hello and welcome to this week's episode of the podcast. I am back from my lovely trip to Nashville. And I feel like if I can just get a little bit wooer, I feel like some big shifts happened while I was over there and to spend the time and the money I did on doing something like that was was phenomenal and gave me so much to think about.
                Made me realize so much about myself that I'm almost in a bit of a phase now of looking at who I am and what I'm doing and what I'm doing in the business and how I earn money and how I spend my time and all this kind of stuff. So yeah, it was just phenomenal. And if anyone has sat there thinking whether they should invest, you know, time and money in themselves, 1000000%. Yes.
                Now I'm about to, When I say about, I'm literally just going through the, the thoughts at the moment, but I'm gonna make some changes to the pricing of my office in terms of the membership, in terms of working with me one to one, because of lots of different reasons, lots of things that happened while I was away. Lots that I've learned about myself and about how I am as a person and how I've invested in me and what I do.
                So that will be coming and I will tell you about that at some point. But yeah, I just. And I say that for two reasons. One, because I think it's so important that you do invest yourself. And two, if you are investing in yourself looks like working with me, then you probably wanna look at doing it as sooner rather than later because I'm gonna be reviewing my pricing and they are likely to go up.
                So yeah, I just wanna say that I had the most amazing time and, and it was just brilliant. And then I was in LA afterwards and some things happened, which I won't go into, but that taught me some lessons too. And even when things are a bit rubbish and you think, Yeah, that sucked, I didn't wanna have to deal with that.
                Actually, sometimes they're the biggest and best lessons and for me, I finally feel like I'm stepping into who I am and my power and what I'm meant to be doing is that all a bit heavy for a Monday morning. I apologize if that's the case, but it's very apt for today's interview. I have interviewed the amazing Dan.
                Now. I've just gone back cuz you know how I batch a lot of interviews and we're almost getting to the end of my batching and we're about to start rerecording some, which by the way have already, the applications have been in for 6-12 months almost. And I've actually paused any new applications cause I have too many, which is a lovely position to be in.
                But Dan was recorded quite a while back, so I went back and listened to it. And I basically listen to whole thing, start to finish, and it's so good, like so, so good. The stuff he talks about, the stories we tell, the conversations we have. This is totally up my street and some great things to learn in this, and it's really fitting with kind of who I am and what I'm learning.
                I've mentioned before that I'm doing Age Blooming coaching and spiritual coaching, and I am learning all sorts of amazing things, which will add to me and what I offer to my amazing community. So yeah. But this episode is perfect. I love it. I'm sure you will too. As always, I will link up to everything in the show notes about Dan.
                Please go check him out. Please do go share the love and tell us what you thought of this episode and I will just get straight on it and hand you over to Dan.
                I am really excited today to welcome to the podcast the very lovely Dan Mangena. Dan, how are you doing?
                Daniel: I am superdupercalifragilisticexpialidocious. This how I feel. How you doin?
                Teresa: Well, I've never had.
                Daniel: You were not expecting that, were you?
                Teresa: That was certainly, well, fairly not. That was like, You know, a great start. That that has gotta give some energy to anyone who's listening. Like, we're in for a tree. I can tell before you get going. Dan, I'm really excited to have you on one of your, The stuff you talk about is the stuff that I love.
                So it's always nice to kind of pick people's brains and hear what they gotta say about stuff. But I always start in exactly the same way by asking you to explain to my lovely audience how you got to do what you do today?
                Daniel: Pain. Teresa. She thinks I'm joking.
                Teresa: Right?
                Daniel: I'm not joking.
                Teresa: You guys, you're guys think something serious and then I'm gonna think I kind of just laughed at that.
                Daniel: Well, so I love to describe, I don't love, I am called to describe my life as a, a trilogy. Effectively. Right now we're in part three and Part Three's been going on since 13th of February, 2018 at six 40 ish in the morning. And you know how I can tell that's exactly what happened.
                Teresa: You tell me.
                Daniel: So I was at Meditation Retreat. You probably heard of Dr. Jody Spencer. I was at one of his seven day week long events. I've been doing his work for a few years. Did Tequila shots with him once. He's an awesome guy. Love him to Bits.
                Teresa: Amazing.
                Daniel: I was at this retreat and the crazy thing was, is that that particular retreat hadn't really been that great for me. Not because of anything to do with Dr. Joe, but I'd been on a run of going to his events literally every couple of months. So if you imagine my girlfriend at the time, someone who's relatively introverted, doesn't really leave the house that much, all of a sudden is running off to another country every few weeks. Coming back with that as you know, the spiritual communities tend to have more women than men meet with new people. They're in the States. I'm in the UK at the time, so in the evening I'm sitting there texting with random women that I didn't know before. I love you so much. Oh, this, that, blah, blah, blah. Oh wow. So she's like, Oh, this one.
                She's like, I'm coming along to see what the hell's going on. All these people that you are meeting, I wanna see what's going on. Not a weird orgy thing. So she came along . So we ended up happening is between each of the sessions, I'd come out from the meditation session, should be there at the door waiting for me there at the door waiting for me in the evening there, waiting for me.
                So I didn't really get a chance to kind of just unplug as I'd normally done. So it's not that there was anything wrong, but it's been different to. Ordinarily I go for the four days, seven days, whatever, phones off. I just dive in and do the thing. So the Monday after, so this was, we finished on the Sunday. Monday morning everyone's out due to walk-in meditation. I'm like, I'm gonna go and do walk-in meditation. And I had no word of life. An interdimensional fifth degree 3D virtual reality experience of exactly what my life would look like if I had answered the call that I'd been hearing throughout part two of the trilogy.
                The call had been coming, the synchronous had been showing up. The invitations had been there. I'd had my donor and the well situation where I'd said yes and gimme a bit. And I'll, I'll change, I'll come and do this thing. Cause I wasn't really incentivized to, this is the thing. I wasn't burnt out in a corporate job.
                I wasn't like miserable. I was living my best life. You have to understand. I'd come from the dark times of part one, I built myself up over part two. I had a lovely home in Highgate. I had a tailor I'd hang out with my mates in different parts of the world. I have more wristwatches than I needed by more names than I needed to.
                Like my life was good. Making good money, working out great relationships with my friends, great relationships with my family. So I didn't have this missing thing that I often hear people talking about this, like, I need to go and find my purpose. I didn't feel that. So when this nudge was coming and these things were coming, I was like, "Yeah, I'm alright right now."
                And then, in this experience I had like, Oh, I'm getting the gooses right now. I literally felt exactly what my life would be like if I answered the call. It's like, Yeah, you've got all this stuff, but there's all this more. And that day I shut down the website for my business. I gave back money for contracts.
                When I got back to the UK. I walked away from deals and within a couple of months I was packed up with a backpack suit carrier and a a suitcase traveling the world on my own dime, sharing this work that I do. And so that's where the transition was into this. And part two and part one, I've got their things. We'll probably get to those. But the point of transition was about 6:40 in the morning, the 13th of February, 2019.
                Teresa: So, you know, probably in irrelevant question in all of this, but I nosy. Did your girlfriend come with you or was that the end of that girlfriend?
                Daniel: It didn't last. No.
                Teresa: Okay. I was just, I was just being nosy because that's a huge flipping thing. Like, that isn't, I might change my job or I'm thinking about doing this thing that is, you know, this life you've come accustomed to, you know, this, what we've got and what we do and how this works and all this that is like, "Oh yeah, no, not anymore." And some people, I mean, I didn't do something quite like that, but I certainly handed in a job and started my business on a whim.
                Daniel: Yeah. Which is no mean feat. No mean feat.
                Teresa: And people thought I was crazy. They thought I'd lost my mind. And I think...
                Daniel: That's probably all.
                Teresa: You know. Yeah. You're God, we gotta figure way. Like what was people's reactions? What did they think? And did you first second doubt yourself and go actually, what have I done?
                Daniel: What the thing is, like I've never had a, a job, job. I've never had a job, job. I made my first million when I was 19 years old. Promptly lost everything. Made it again, promptly lost everything. That was part one. You know, I taught myself to make computers when I was 13, registered my first company when I was 16 with company's house.
                Teresa: What on Earth.
                Daniel: And yeah, so like I was, I was always about that life, right? And. Nobody was like, Oh, dad's packed up and he's gonna go travel in the world. It's like, Oh, that's what he's doing now, kind of thing. Yeah, Right.
                Teresa: Because you'd been so, it's not like you'd sat in the same job for the last 20 years doing whatever. Yeah. Yeah.
                Daniel: No. No, I've had, I've had two jobs. I worked in stir sundry cinemas in Rumford when I was 15 or 16 for the summer. I didn't need the money. I was already making money. I was making like a few hundred pounds here and there, percent of my computers. But I met my best friends, Jamie and Nathan there. My friend Andrew was like, Hey, do you want something to do?
                Like they need people to work at the cinema. I'm like, I'm not doing anything. Let's do it. And I got like free ice cream and popcorn and I love movies. So that was my, my job. And then building myself back up after losing everything the second time and coming out of the whole dark shadows of suicide and stuff. I got a job in a call center and I worked there for about six months while I built up another business that I, I grew that to about a hundred thousand pounds a month of revenue.
                Teresa: Wow. So those businesses, were they anything to do with, or like what you do today?
                Daniel: No.
                Teresa: No. Completely different.
                Daniel: My first business that went wrong, horribly wrong, actually went wrong because I was trying to help people because I didn't have the right licenses for the way that I was helping people. So the government come in and take everything. Thank you.
                Teresa: Oh dear.
                Daniel: And then, then I went into Project well consulting Really. And I built up the money doing that and I ended up getting equity slices in different deals I put together. And then everything got stolen by people. Cause I tried to be clever cause everything got taken by the government the first time.
                I was like, I'm, I'm young. I'm like 20 years old. He thinks he knows everything.
                Teresa: Yeah. Cause we do when we're with that age.
                Daniel: Arrogance of youth, Right. And put everything in other people's names and then they're not gonna get my money. Like did Well, the people took the money. So that was that.
                So yeah, I built up that. So I was doing, you know, putting deals together for people, brainstorming stuff. People paid me basically to pick my brain and I took equity slices for my brain capital going into to deals, and then I leveraged that back into consulting. That's a business that I built up. And we ended up branching into other areas of where we did some stuff with, with pensions and stuff like that, with the sips, and going into companies that had opportunities to take advantage of using pension funds for real estate and stuff like that.
                I basically put things together for them and got equity slices again, and that's what I was doing. And now it's nothing to do with that. Which is one of the reasons why I was saying no, because I didn't want to have anything to do with other people. Cause it hadn't really worked to come before. Wanted to be in my safety little bubble. So it's a big, big hurdle for me to go over.
                Teresa: So explain to people what it is you do today. Like, you know, how do you describe yourself?
                Daniel: How do I describe myself? You ready? Are you sure that you're.
                Teresa: I'm very ready.
                Daniel: I support spiritually and entrepreneury hearted and minded people wanting 360 degrees of abundance. That's it.
                Teresa: I love it.
                Daniel: That's what we do.
                Teresa: I love it. Yeah. So I can see the entrepreneurial stuff, but where did the spiritual stuff come from? Like is that something that was always there that you toyed with yourself, but it was not necessarily part of the mainstream? Or was that something. Cause obviously you talked about Dr. Jody Spencer and we just realized that we both know Mary Hyatt. My lovely Mary. And she, she goes to Jody Spencer and I was introduced to who he was through her. So obviously you were going to those things and obviously if anybody knows what Jody Spencer does, obviously he talks about spiritually and healing and all that sort of thing. So was it always there or how did it come about?
                Daniel: So I've been in personal development for about 22 years and I am as young as I look cuz I was reading, Think and Grow Rich when I was 16 years old. I was studying books like Psycho Cybernetics in my teens, getting books from Knight and Gal Connet.
                And my early success, I really do grant to number one, this unwavering, just knowing that I was gonna be a millionaire, right? And B, I raise, a sharp mindset that was honed by all of the study and books, the stuff that I was reading. So my mental stuff was on point, and I've always used mind and mental to create.
                And then around 2015, 2016 when I got into do dispenser's work, having tried some of the spiritual stuff before, it kind of gave me a way to kind of get into it. And since then, now I practice cond in yoga there and other things as well. And one of the things that sets me aside, I believe, He says from other people, maybe in my field, in other fields, is that I don't just look at mindset.
                I don't just look at the spiritual. I recognize that all of these are part of who we are as a holistic being. And so the spiritual has been, it's ended up being where a lot of people who attracted and resonate with what I do come from because they've been caught up in the spiritual stuff and haven't got a way to connect it to the mindset, habits of behaviors, action, and the intentionality, which is what I bring together. So in order to prove with me, you kind of need to get that we're more than just meet sacks, right? you need to kind of get that there's some, the woo woo's got something to it no matter what to what degree you are.
                But that's just, it's an essential component. And so I kind of make sure people know. There's gonna be some woo going on here. We're gonna have some fun with it. We're gonna get some results. But there is some woo.
                Teresa: Yeah. And I think you're so right. I think for me, I came in from a business point of view. I was always very corporate. I had corporate roles. Then when I started my own business, and I think I'd always had a passion and I didn't think about it until the other day for personal development. Cause I again remember reading like mind books and things when I was like probably 19, 20 and.
                When I have my own business, I really got into the personal development. Cause I then suddenly realized that the importance of mindset when you are your business and you've gotta show up every day. And you've gotta do this, that is like basically make or break a business. And then, and I think it was maybe a bit of Mary like when she came into my world and, but slowly the mindset and the personal development and the more strategy has now been sort of, like surrounded by and made better by this spiritual side where because I, I always really struggled. I remember watching the secret, I never read the book. I think I tried to, but anyway, I remember watching The Secret and then like this example of, you know, I thought about having a portion there it was, and of course, I, I could only sit there and go. What are you talking...
                51 min
              • How to stop selling transactions and start selling transformations with Finka Jerkovic
                Today’s episode of the podcast is an interview with Finka Jerkovic, a Sales Coach and Expert who helps people to sell in their business, in a way that doesn’t compromise their purpose, people or profit.
                Tune in to hear us talk about coming from love when you're selling and doing things that align with our values, and the energy in which we come from.
                This episode is practical in terms of marketing strategies, but also touches on the woo, in terms of thinking about the energy that we bring when we sell.
                 
                KEY TAKEAWAYS COVERED IN THE PODCAST
                 
                ●     Why aligning what you love to do with what is most valuable to your client is the key to growing your business (not fear-based tactics!)
                ●     The difference between selling from love and selling from fear
                ●     Why we shouldn’t resist the experience of fear
                ●     Why you need to stop buying into the stories that we make up in our head about selling
                ●     Why we need to view putting an offer out as an act of love
                 
                THE ONE THING YOU NEED TO REMEMBER ABOVE ALL ELSE
                 
                Feel the fear of selling and do it anyway! But be kind and compassionate to yourself in the process.
                 
                HIGHLIGHTS YOU SIMPLY CAN'T MISS
                 
                ●     Why love is the only antidote to the fear that is holding you back in your business
                ●     How to sell with confidence, attract clients magnetically and build a business you love
                ●     The three pillars to selling from love
                 
                LINKS TO RESOURCES MENTIONED IN TODAY’S EPISODE
                 
                Sell From Love podcast
                Sell From Love website
                Sell From Love quiz
                Finka’s LinkedIn
                Finka’s Instagram
                 
                TRANSCRIPT
                 

                Hello and welcome to this week's episode of the podcast. As I mentioned last week, I am still in Nashville. I'm recording this at the same time as I recorded last week's and we're having another interview because of the fact of, well, one, I forgot to and didn't forget, I ran out of podcast episodes and I had to do some recording over here.

                And because I don't have my normal setup and things, I didn't really want to do a solo. Because it requires me recording more and thinking more. And for some reason my brain isn't working today. So I'm doing some interviews, but these are great interviews. And you know what's funny? Because I pre-record the interview so far ahead, I literally have to go back and re-watch them to remind myself what we're talking about.

                And. Finka's episode today, the lovely Finka who's being interviewed. We talk about coming from love when you're selling, thinking about service, when you're selling and doing things that align with our values and the energy in which we come from. So it's quite practical in terms of, you know, marketing strategies, but also it's a little bit woo woo in terms of like thinking about the energy that we bring when we sell.

                And I recorded this at the point The Club was just per open permanently, and obviously now The Club has been open permanently for quite some time, and it's really interesting to hear some of those conversations and actually how some of those conversations have impacted me going forward on what I've done.

                So if you are concerned about feeling and looking a little bit sleazy, salesy type thing, or you want sell from love and sell from service, but sometimes that doesn't give people the motivation to actually buy from you. Then this episode is gonna be perfect. So I will hand you over to the lovely Finka and I will speak to you soon.

                Okay. I am really excited today to welcome to the podcast Finka Jerkovic. Finka how are you doing?

                Finka: I'm doing wonderful, Teresa, thank you for having me.

                Teresa: Oh, my pleasure, my pleasure. We've just been having a really nice chat before we got on about all sorts of things. Mainly the weather, cuz I'm British and that's what we talk about.

                Finka: And I'm Canadian and that's what we talk about.

                Teresa: So we're very well suited. Very well suited. Finka before we get started, we always start the same way. Could you please tell my audience what you do and how you got to do that?

                Finka: Ah, I am a sales coach and expert, so I talk to people about how to sell, how to get their work out there, how to get clients, and how to grow their business through this skill of selling.

                Something that we weren't taught to do but are expected to do and know how to do for our businesses shows a super, super important thing that we know how to do. Feel authentic in doing it, and that for those of us that it has felt awkward or uncomfortable, how do you get at ease with doing it? So hopefully we'll talk a little bit about that.

                How did I get to doing this wonderful work? I've been, I spent most of my career in corporate financial services, and I was either a salesperson, a sales leader, worked sales strategy, and then eventually became a sales coach. All of that done through two and a half decades in banking. And when I started my business back in 2013 as a part-time gig, and then in 2015 kind of said, Okay, let's put my big girl panties on. Let's do this thing.

                Teresa: I love it.

                Finka: You know, it was so funny because this thing that I had done all my life so naturally and so easily, I completely forgot how to do when I started my own business. And I had a theory about it, and I think I know two things. I have two theories. Number one, is it okay if I just jump in like this?

                Teresa: Cool. You carry on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

                Finka: Good. So theory number one is whenever we start something new, we get amnesia. We forget that we already have skills and expertise and transferable skills. We all of a sudden, like they seem so unrelated, like, I've done all this stuff in the bank and then all of a sudden I'm starting my business.

                Apparently I can't do anything. Like I, I don't even have to tie my shoes. Like that's how bad it got, right? The other thing that had happened is that there is something uniquely different when you're selling a product that someone else made versus something that I made.

                Teresa: Ugh, completely. And obviously my background is marketing. I'd marketed every type of business you could imagine from the most wonderful to the most ridiculous. And I know marketing, I can market myself. Yeah, no, no I couldn't no. Cause like you said, it's not when you're doing it for someone else. It's not you. It's not, you're not going out. They're going, I'm pretty amazing actually.

                You're saying something about a product or someone else and it's easy to say. So I'm guessing like, did you fall into sales back in the corporate job or is it something that naturally you are very good at. You liked? Cuz that when you think salespeople, you think a certain type of character and I'm not getting that vibe from you.

                Finka: So when I ended up in sales, I ended up, because I love to help people. I love solving problems. I loved helping people get what they want. And that's what's, I get goosebumps right now in my whole body's just kind of vibrating. That's what selling's about. And somewhere in our history, So, so I did my research, so the word sell.

                Prior to the 11th century. So it was sell on, which meant to give. Somewhere around that 11th century is shifted. And it shifted to get something for the thing that you give. And so there was this transference of how this word initially was meant to be. That's why we feel like we can, we wanna serve, we wanna help, we wanna help people get what they want.

                That's the source of the word selling. And later in years, you know, it shifted to me like, there's this exchange of goods and services. I give you this, you give me that, I get you this, you get me that. And so, that shifted in the after the 11th century. Hence why now we have these two very different experiences in selling.

                I wanna help people, Oh, but then I gotta do this thing called selling. I don't wanna do that thing cause that feels icky and uncomfortable. But that's not what we're doing. We're actually just go out there, be yourself, show up. Genuinely wanna help people. Try to help them get what they more, more of what they want and the more we can forget about ourself in that sale. I'm gonna preface in quotations. The better we're gonna be at it. And now it was the problem that I ran into when I was selling my stuff. Because when I was selling my stuff, I was selling a course, I was selling a workshop, I was selling a keynote, I talk, or whatever it was. Part of it was I was selling me because I had a personal brand.

                I had a type of way I was gonna deliver the content. The other thing I was selling in there was my thought leadership, because I had ideas of how we could solve these problems. There was a lot of me invested in my workshop, a lot of me invested in my program, and then it was so much more of I wasn't selling the solution I was selling me.

                And that was the problem. Because now what if they don't like this product? It means they don't like me. If they don't buy this product, they don't accept me. And that relationship is very, I, I still get trapped in it every now and then, but I'm more cognizant of it to catch myself sooner than getting deep in the weeds and, you know, and I getting.

                Teresa: I totally get it. You're so right. I think there are, you know, I have these conversations with myself, with my students, with people in my world, and it's like, you know, we did some exercises on value and we were talking about, you know, who, where do you get your value from? And it's like you need to get it from inside you, cuz if you're waiting for someone else to validate you through a purchase, then there's a million reasons why they might not purchase, which have nothing to do with you.

                But even though I could talk about it and teach it, the the part that's still you, that's like, why isn't anybody joining? Or why isn't anybody buying? Or what is it that like, and, and especially, and I dunno whether you get this and I hope you do, but like, if you have someone doing something similar and you know, you know the quality is not like your quality.

                One thing that I have always. Like, I'm all about quality. It's gotta be the best. If it's not the best, I don't wanna do it. And like, so you know, someone is not providing a quality service or something as good as you can do it, and yet someone's going to them than you. That is so hard to get away from. It's me, isn't it?

                Finka: Mm-hmm. It is. It's hard. It's so what, what's different here? You know, you are, what you're doing is, is more qualitative that they can. And so what, what's what? What happens next? What? What do you think? So I'm like, so that's, it's the story I make up about it. Like it's the story I'm making up about it and that I'm making up that they are better than I am and we've personalized it again.

                And again, why they chose that person has nothing to do with us.

                Teresa: Nope.

                Finka: Has nothing to do with us. And so I think if we can see that and understand that there was something else that happened that motivated them to go that way than your way.

                Teresa: Okay. So can I just pick up on something you said then, because actually this is something that's been playing on my mind for the, my own point of view.

                So I've recently, by the time, well at the time we're recording this, I've recently changed the model of my membership. So I used to do an open and close, so the doors had opened, four days closed. Open four days, closed, like twice a year, and that didn't start to sit with me as well as I would like because it felt that I was using some tactics that, I mean, they weren't underhand and they weren't sleazy and they weren't any of that.

                Cause I wouldn't have allowed them to be. But it still didn't feel as, as giving and as sort of, you know, coming from a place of wanting to help because I wanted to help. I'd leave it open all the time for when someone's ready to join, which I now have done. But that motivation, you know, the thing I'm struggling with, and it's only just, we've only, literally, the doors have been open like less even a week, but that motivation of how do I make that motivation happen without those deadlines, without the FOMO, without the kind of things that are sometimes a little bit icky feeling.

                Finka: Like, like I countdown clock or only a few limited seats. And, and I think there's a place that those are. They're useful because for the right person, they're gonna energetically get them motivated to say, I better say yes to this cause I need this change, I need this transformation. I think that place where you and I and people like us is like we start questioning, am I going to get people who aren't yet ready?

                Teresa: Yes.

                Finka: And because of the FOMO is gonna activate them.

                Teresa: Yeah. And I don't want that.

                Finka: I don't want, you don't want that for them because, you know, when I think about selling from love, so that's the, the contracept, we had to sell from love, but we sell from fear, right? Like, so the fear is I don't wanna be selling from that energy.

                So even that place of, I will put the, the time clicker, you'll put, you know, limited seats because in genuinely there is limited seats. There is only so many days. All these things.

                Teresa: Totally makes sense. Yeah.

                Finka: Totally. We can totally still do that. But we have to go back to ourselves and say, Okay, the energetic experience you're having right now, does it feel fear based for you as a seller, the person putting it out? Cuz you're afraid of enough people won't buy in, enough people won't say yes, you won't hit, hit your how many people you need to run this program. You spent $50,000 of advertising and you gotta recoup those costs. Like see all those little variables? There's so many and they can affect how we sell and market our stuff.

                And then, Right. Yeah. So then the other thing is we have to look at our client's experience, like what we just talked about. I don't want my clients buying from fear. I want you in this thing because it's the right thing at the right time, right now for you. Because the fear experience, we just breed more of it.

                We breed more of it. And, and I believe like we are at this place of shifting how we market, how we sell, how we build relationships, not only us as providers of those services, but our clients, the, and I'll put in quotations, buyers. Cause I, I don't like that term, I don't like buyers and I'll like consumers, but that's the term that, that's, we know what we're talking about.

                But our potential clients, our potential clients, they're more educated. So, you know, so they're more informed when they're making their decisions. So like we don't need to dumb it down and we don't need to, I don't know. It's such a scarcity, primitive, very much plays into our old brain thinking. I'd rather let's stick to their prefrontal, corti, our executive function.

                Our new brain. Let's continue evolving that. And how we do it is how we show up this energy of love. I'm here to serve and do some really good work, amazing work with people, and I wanna find the right people. And that's our work up. Why we market that? Why do we advertise? Cause I wanna find them. I want them make it easy for them to find me so they can, we can work together and get this match.

                Teresa: So you said something there that I wanna pick up on. You talked about coming from fear rather than love it being the opposite. And I, and I've done a bit of work with this with the members where I've talked about, you know, when we come from fear, we make some stupid decisions. Because like if you are coming from, I and I have done it many times when I had my agency, If I was losing a client or needed another client, then I would say yes to work that I didn't know how to do, or I'd say yes to work with people that I didn't wanna work with.

                So coming from fear, Is is not a great thing. However, how do you, when you're in that fear, so when you are like, doors have opened, I'm inviting people in. I know I can help them. It's brilliant, amazing. You know, the people in it love it and people aren't buying. How do you then go. Okay. I know you are sat there literally panicking your head off because no one's buying, but we need to come from love. Like how in the moment do you swap that? How do you change that?

                Finka: Mm-hmm. , you don't, You do not. You do nothing to swap it because we cannot deny the experience we're having. And the more we resist that experience of fear, more magnet, more energy we give it. And so Susan Jeffers has this beautiful book.

                I love the title, read the book, Feel The Fear And Do It Anyway.

                Teresa: I've read that it's very good. Yeah.

                Finka: Right. So, So the same thing, we wanna use that mantra. You just noticed the fear. And you observe the fear and you sit with the experience of fear and you follow through and you look at, okay, how can they bring a little...

                38 min
              • How to simplify content creation for your business with Amanda Warfield
                Today’s episode of the podcast is an interview with Amanda Warfield, who talks all about content, long form, short form and how to be consistent, whilst still maintaining quality.
                Amanda is a simplicity focused content marketing strategist. Her mission is to help women entrepreneurs, in particular, really fit their marketing into their business without it taking over their business.
                I think this will be so useful to so many of you, as it’s something we look at a lot, so tune in, enjoy and then let me know what you think!
                 
                KEY TAKEAWAYS COVERED IN THE PODCAST 
                ●     Where to start with being consistent
                ●     Why you should put out less content than you think you need to
                ●     Consistency and quality matters more than anything else
                ●     The difference between perfect content, viral content and quality content
                ●     Don’t base what consistency looks like for you, based on what other people are doing
                ●     Everyone has to start somewhere, don’t be afraid to start small and then if you have time, add on later
                ●     The pros and cons of batching content
                 
                THE ONE THING YOU NEED TO REMEMBER ABOVE ALL ELSE
                However much time you can set aside, put it on your calendar for the rest of your year to make sure you get it done.
                 
                HIGHLIGHTS YOU SIMPLY CAN'T MISS
                ●     How to know if it’s quality content that you’re putting out
                ●     How to simplify the content creation process
                ●     Why you shouldn’t be afraid to repeat yourself
                ●     How to batch create your content
                 
                LINKS TO RESOURCES MENTIONED IN TODAY’S EPISODE
                 
                Mary Hyatt’s Podcast
                Amanda Warfield’s Instagram
                Amanda’s Warfield’s Podcast
                 
                TRANSCRIPT

                Hello and a very warm welcome to this week's episode of the podcast. Now. If I sound a little different and if there's background noises that aren't all the same, it's because I messed up a little bit. And you know me authentic to the core. I will always tell you what's happening in my world and where I mess up because it's really important to know that because we are business owners, we make mistakes.

                No one is perfect. And when we look at these people [00:02:00] online and think, Oh my God, they're so amazing. No, no, they're not. Like it's great show they're putting on, but everyone has failures, everyone makes mistakes. So I had a really busy couple of weeks. I had, well first I was off cause I had an operation, which I'm all recovered from.

                All good now, which is great. Then I went straight into an in-person event that I held in Birmingham. Then from that event, I went straight into a week on of insider experience, which was phenomenal. So if you missed it this time, we're gonna do it again in January. So make sure as soon as I have the dates, I will get that in your diaries.

                And then because I'd been off and had these various things, all my meetings and all my calls and everything got pushed into one week. And then I was going to Nashville the Monday this week. And I thought I was organized. And then I sat at the airport on Monday morning and turned right to my husband and was like, OMG.

                I haven't recorded the podcast like I'm normally so far ahead. [00:03:00] The interviews are so far ahead, but I just like everything I'd done ran out and I hadn't recorded it. So I sat here in the lovely Mary Hyatt's house where we stay when we come to Nashville, and she's very kindly found me one of her microphones cuz luckily she's a podcaster too.

                And in fact, I'm gonna link to Mary's podcast in the show notes. So she very kind of got me a mic. It's early in the morning, we're about to go out and get breakfast, and I thought I better get these episodes recorded. So what I'm gonna do for the next three weeks, because we are so far ahead on the interviews and I feel like I just feel really disjointed when I interview so far ahead and I'm about to do a whole another batch again.

                I thought, do you know what? To help me and help the interviews. I'm just gonna do the next three weeks as interviews. So the next three weeks are all interviews. They're all really good. You're gonna get so much good stuff from it. But that's what we're doing cuz it's so much easier for me to do the intro and outro while I'm not at home.

                And then when I get back home, I'll get back to doing solos. And I might do a chunk of solos. But also if you listen to the podcast regularly, last week I did [00:04:00] say, How do you want me to mix it up? Do you want me to mix it up? Do you want me to change it? I did have a DM from someone saying they much prefer the solo episodes, so let me know.

                But for the next three weeks we've got interviews and if you do like the solo episodes, do listen. They're still gonna be great. So today's interview is with Amanda Warfield, who talks all about content, long form, short form, how to be consistent, gives us her ideas on it. So I'm always happy to have a conversation about content because it is something that is always constant in our world.

                So, Obviously do take a listen to this one. She's got some good ideas and I think this is gonna be really helpful even if it just refocuses you back onto, Okay, where am I going with my content? Cuz I know it's something that we look at all the time. Anyway, I'm gonna hand you over to the lovely Amanda. Enjoy.

                Okay. I am really looking forward today to talking to Amanda Warfield. Amanda, how are you doing?

                Amanda: I am great, Teresa. I am so excited. I know we've been trying to connect with this interview for a while, so I'm really, really [00:05:00] excited to be here with you today.

                Teresa: It's been a, it's been a long time coming, hasn't it? So it just feels like, yeah, time just flies in one way, but also you do things and you think, "Oh, I'm not gonna do that for ages." and then suddenly it's like, "Oh no, we're there already." So, yeah, And this is meant to happen at the end of last year. And anyway, we're here, which is the main thing. So Amanda, we always start the podcast exactly the same way by asking you to explain to my lovely listeners who you are and how you got to do what you're doing today.

                Amanda: Absolutely. So, hi, I am Amanda Warfield, as Teresa said. I am a simplicity focused content marketing strategist and honestly, it's kind of funny the way that I got into this because when I first started my business, I was very much focusing on simplified living capsule wardrobes and things like that. And then the longer I was in business and the longer I was doing that, that evolved into time management for business owners, which.

                Then evolved into the content marketing strategy side of things, which [00:06:00] pulls in the simplicity focus where I started, and also the time management side of things. Because my mission is to help women entrepreneurs in particular, really fit their marketing into their business without it taking over their business.

                So a lot of what I focus on is, okay, this is content marketing strategy, but with the lens of simplicity and time management just piled on top.

                Teresa: Love it. So when you say, you know, when you started off talking about simplicity, does that mean you're super organized?

                Amanda: I mean, yeah. Yeah.

                Teresa: I love the other thing.

                Amanda: I can toot my own horn, but yeah.

                Teresa: No, I love that. I did once watch Marie Kondo and it lasted, well, I looked at my drawers the other day and I have to pull 'em out every six months and redo them again because it, yeah, it doesn't quite continue that way. But I try really hard, cause it does. When things are simple and organized and tidy, it generally does make your life so much easier, doesn't it?

                Amanda: It really does. And I am [00:07:00] organized to the point where my husband, when he doesn't want me to throw something away, he will hide it in our attic where I won't find it so that I don't find it. And every time I go out there, there's something new. I'm actually, Where did this come from?

                Teresa: I love it. I love it. Okay, so let's talk about the content side, because one thing. I think a lot of my lovely listeners wouldn't necessarily think is simple and content, because content is an absolute beast. So first off, let's start right at the beginning. What do you mean when you say the word content?

                Amanda: So content to me, I look at is three main things. You've got long form content, which is podcasting, YouTube, blog posts. Then you've got email newsletters. They're just kind of a beast in and of themselves. And then you've got social media, which is short form content. So content is anything that you're putting out that is free advertising and free marketing for your business.

                Teresa: So, Okay. So let's start with, if we think about the, the long form content, that in itself is like a [00:08:00] huge thing, isn't it? Because you know, You've got a podcast, I've got a podcast. You know what this is like, it's, you know, it's a big, big thing. So how do you see simplifying some of those bigger process things?

                Amanda: Well, the first thing that I want to give permission to all of the listeners to do is to put out less content than you think you really need to. I know a lot of us will look at, Okay, I'm gonna start let's say a podcast. What are best practices? How often do the experts say that I should be putting out the podcast?

                But for those of us that are solopreneurs, we are one person shows, right? One person teams. We have to do everything, and it's not realistic to expect ourselves to actually keep up with best practices. And what your audience is looking for isn't necessarily best practices, but instead to other really important key factors of your content, which is consistency and quality.

                And if you're putting out so much content that [00:09:00] you either can't be consistent or you can't put out quality content, it's not really doing anything for your business, so it's better to back off and do less so that you can be consistent and put out that quality content, and that's gonna actually be more for your business in the long run.

                Teresa: And how did they know what quality content looks like? So, you know, we, we are both in this world and we see lots of posts and lots of things and some stuff is amazing and some stuff not so much. So how did they know whether it's quality content that they're putting out?

                Amanda: That's a really great question. And. I want to start by saying that not everything you put out needs to be perfect. I don't want to let the perfectionist get in their own way with this. Not everything that you put out needs to be a hit. It is absolutely okay to experiment with your marketing. But your gut knows if what you're putting out is quality.

                If you're sitting down and you're just throwing something together to get something out, you know that it's not really quality, right? So there, there's a [00:10:00] difference between perfect content and content that is viral and does amazing, and content that is quality. They, they're not synonymous. So if you know that you're sitting down and you're putting in the time to actually create the content then you can count that as quality.

                Teresa: Mm. Okay, Cool. So those two words together, consistent and quality, feel like they might fight against each other. But what, when you say consistent, how consistent are we talking? Cause this is the question I get asked all the time. Sorry, just to interrupt you. I get asked whenever I do any training, when I speak, when I do anything I think people are like, "How often should I post?"

                And it's like, well, you know how often. How long's a piece of string let's you know, it depends, doesn't it? So, yeah. What would you say you mean by consistent?

                Amanda: So what I mean by consistent is that you're putting out on some sort of schedule. Whether you say, I'm going to post one podcast episode a month, I'm gonna post every other week, I'm gonna post weekly. I'm gonna post twice a week. Don't post twice a week. [00:11:00] That's crazy. But, That's a lot of content that's really unnecessary in your eye, isn't really gonna be able to queue up with. But consistency just means that you are putting it out on a consistent basis, not a constant basis. So those two words right there are a huge difference.

                Some people think if I post a best practices, that means consistency, but you can put out one podcast episode a month. As long as you are consistently putting out every single month, whether it's the first Tuesday of the month or the last Friday, whatever your posting schedule looks like, let your audience know what to expect and then stick to that schedule that you have created.

                But I think the real question that you're asking is more so how often should people post and you should be creating content, as much content as you can realistically create within one week. So what I suggest to all of my students and what I spend a lot of time teaching out is actually content batching where you sit down and you create a month's worth of content at one time.

                Obviously, you batch all of your podcast episodes. [00:12:00] If you cannot sit down and create all the content you're trying to create in one week, whether you work five hours a week or 60 hours a week. Whatever your one week looks like. If you can't create all of the content in that time period, you're trying to create too much for your business.

                Teresa: So a week would translate into a month's worth of content.

                Amanda: Yes.

                Teresa: And I'm just thinking about that. So for me, obviously I have a podcast, so each podcast probably a good hour by the time I've started and finished and whatever, whatever. And then, but that doesn't include me editing or doing anything else. So that's kind of like four hours, maybe five hours straight off the bat.

                Then obviously all the social stuff, all the other content. We are now starting to do blogs because we've taken our favorite podcast episodes and we've put them into blogs. So I think, and I'd be interested to get your take on this in terms of. I think what happens is people look at people like me maybe and you, and they go, Oh, well look what they're doing.

                We should be doing that too. But it's not like that. That's, [00:13:00] It's not as easy as that, is it?

                Amanda: No. Yes, 100%. For those that are listening, you can't see me, but I'm just like vigorously shaking my head, this right here. We look to those people that we see it as success in our industry, and we think we've got to do what they do.

                But your business is not their business, and I know we hear that all the time, but you have X amount of time and you are in one specific place in your business. And business is a long road. It is a long journey. You have to start somewhere. When you get to a place of being able to hire team members or outsource, then you can add on more content.

                But for now, you have to do what you're actually capable of doing because if you are trying to create content all month long, every single week, every single day, you're not gonna get anything else done. You're not gonna actually be able to move that needle in your business to get clients, to serve clients to grow digital offers, anything like that, you won't have the time. All as you're doing is marketing yourself. Your marketing has to fit into your business. So yes, if you can outsource at some point, great. Phenomenal. [00:14:00] I just started outsourcing my podcast editing within the last year, and that's been great, and I've been able to create more content because of it.

                But it took me growing to a place of being able to afford to outsource and saying, You have team members. So you can do a podcast and blogs and this and that. But everyone has to start somewhere. So don't be afraid to start small and then if you have time, add on later.

                Teresa: Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And I think as well, you know, like you said, when I was just thinking about the week actually, if I had to edit the podcast, do the show notes to the podcast, do the social media for the podcast, you're probably talking realistically more like four hours per podcast because it just, you know, it all takes time, doesn't it? So how do you know which content is best for you?

                Amanda: As far as the type of content that we putting in?

                Teresa: Yeah. Yeah. So because like I think one of the problems we have as well as, business owners is, there's so much content. There are so many cool [00:15:00] things. And then you hear everyone saying that they did this one thing and it really works.

                And that could be a YouTube channel, that could be a podcast, that could be reals, that could be going live, that could be TikTok like, and it's, And then. I think what happens is people are like, Oh, I need to jump on that and do that. Oh, I need to jump on that and do that cuz that's the golden ticket.

                That's the magic formula. Which as we know, it's...

                34 min
              • How to make a personal connection in an online world
                Today’s episode of the podcast is a solo episode all about how I make personal connections with my community, even though I have an online business.
                 
                KEY TAKEAWAYS COVERED IN THE PODCAST 
                ●     Having an online business is about more than just a numbers game
                ●     The practical things that I do to ensure I truly know my members
                ●     The importance of being accessible and not hiding behind your team
                ●     I’m thinking of making some changes to the podcast, and would love your feedback on what you love and what you don’t!
                ●     Next year I will be running two more Your Dream Business Live events, and you can join the wait list now!
                 
                THE ONE THING YOU NEED TO REMEMBER ABOVE ALL ELSE
                You need to show up and let people get to know who you really are, in order for people to really be able to connect with you.
                 
                LINKS TO RESOURCES MENTIONED IN TODAY’S EPISODE
                Join the wait list for next year’s Your Dream Business Live Event
                Drop me a DM and let me know your feedback on the podcast
                TRANSCRIPT
                Hello, and welcome to this week's episode of the podcast. How you doing? Did you catch the two part podcast episode I did last week with Niki Hutchison. We decided just to mix it up a little bit and do a joint podcast. So half of the interview was me and the other half of the interview was on her podcast.
                Also, I've had some really lovely feedback about the podcast episode before, when we were talking about failing in business and the fact of sometimes you have to try things and they don't work. And you just do something else. So if you haven't listened to that one, purely from the feedback I'm getting, I think it's a good one.
                So go and check it out. This week I wanna talk to you about how I make personal connections with my community, even though I have an online business. Now, the reason I'm bringing this up is a few different things is one at the time of recording this last week. Was it last? No. Yeah. Last week was the Insider Experience.
                And the week before was my event, my in-person event. Like having those people around me is just phenomenal. Like they are the nicest, most amazing humans in the world. And it was so good to meet people in person, not only my existing members, but also new people who listened to the podcast or who followed me for a while.
                So that was so cool to actually meet people. And then this week, this last week just gone, we did the Insider Experience. And again, it was so nice to welcome all new faces into the club in order to show them what it was like. And lots of them have decided to stay as a member, which is ACE. And I love it so much.
                I'm so, so honored that that's the case. And I realized when I was doing part of the Insider Experience. Well, it wasn't part of the Insider Experience, it was actually this morning, we did it. We went Live in the group with a few of my members and someone asked a really good question in the chat saying, I obviously know my Executive Club members really, really well.
                Do I really know the Club Members as well. And. Do they still get that kind of relationship with me. And listening to what the members were saying. I kind of feel like it's a bit like a bit of a superpower maybe that I've got. And actually this falls in line with the fact of. I always suspected, but I'm, you know, fairly positive that I'm a, an empath and can feel, you know, I can feel things.
                I can feel people's emotions. I can feel people's moods and I can relate to them really quick. I don't know if you're an empath or if you just think I'm talking lot of rubbish, which is fine either way. So yeah, so. I wanted to talk about how to make that personal connection, because what happens when you have an online business is all of the strategy.
                And all of the focus around a success of an online business is all about numbers. It's a numbers game. And it's all about getting huge numbers of people into our world. And that's how you make money. If you've got a one to many program or a membership, or a course, then obviously the more people that buy the more.
                You know, obviously the more you make well, that's fairly obvious, but as in, you know, the more it makes sense. So for instance, the work I put into the membership when there was just, you know, a small group of people, right at the very beginning, it wasn't profitable. And to be honest, the time I put into it now, I think my, my husband would argue it's still not profitable, but I love it.
                So it's fine. I don't mind putting effort in, but yeah, one thing that was really lovely is like I said, some of the comments that came in and one of my new members, Annie, said that, you know, I've only known T for a few months and she knows already who I am, what my business is, what my family life is like and what I'm, you know, and what my struggles are.
                And my challenges are, which was ACE and so good. So then I was thinking, well, how do I do that? How do I make sure that I can have that personal connection? Cuz for me, it's really important. Because as you well know if you are a regular listener, I have adopted the phrase of the lovely Mary Hyatt. I see you. I hear you. You matter.
                Well, how do I live by that? How do I actually make sure that I do see and hear people. Because we're not perfect. We are humans and we all make mistakes, but these are some of the things I do probably to try as hard as I can to ensure that I notice people and not just obviously in a sales process, cuz that's just a bit sucky. If that's the only reason you're doing it.
                But genuinely, you know, cause I can't sell the membership and be like, I'm like this and then they join and I'm like, who are you again? So some of the things that I do to do this is really simple but important steps and it might seem unusual. This is my dog going in and out.
                So if you can hear him, I apologize. I've got the door open. My husband's not here at the moment. He's missing his dad. So he really likes to be in and around by me. But, and if I shut my door to record this podcast episode, he would scratch on the door and moan and try and open it. So it's safe that I just, you have an occasional tip tap of feet. Every so often.
                Anyway, so yeah, so I think some of these things are really important. If you want to make that extra effort and you want to really pay attention and it's not just for online businesses, it can be any businesses. But for online, I think in particular it's even more important. So, you know, straight off the bat that I reply to my own social media messages and my own DMs.
                And I'll often reply with a voice note or sometimes I send a video if my face is okay and I've done my makeup and I'm not feeling too tired. I. and I think that's really important. Now I'm confident that most of you listening to this, if not, all of you are doing that yourself. You are appreciating the people who DM you and you are getting back to them.
                Sometimes things get lost in the requested bit. So I do have to keep an eye on that. And if I haven't got back to you and you'll start thinking, you're doing it back to me, then please DM me again, because that's obviously slipped through in that. But yeah, so. So I think it's super important that I'm the one who does that, and it is super important in our business that we are the one that does that.
                There are lots of people out there in this world who hire someone to reply to the social media post and to have those conversations and to manage the accounts. And yes, I have the lovely Becci McEvoy who helps me with the content side, but in terms of the management or in terms of the proactive stuff and the reactive stuff, it's me.
                So, so yeah, that's the first thing. So obviously I make sure that I'm seen, I'm visible and that we can have conversations. The other thing, which is a bit of a, like, you know, a bit of a tech thing, but it's good is seeing what they've done within your world. So for instance, every time someone downloads something, if they take part in something, if they've clicked something, then we tag them.
                So being able to see where they came from or what they've done, cuz again, it's just a nightmare. If you have, if someone's been in your world and you haven't acknowledged it. And. I heard this awful story that someone told me the other day, and this is just shocking. And I'm obviously not gonna divulge any of the key details, but someone told me that they'd done a program with someone and it was a fairly smallish program.
                So I think they said about 30 or 40 people in it. And they were one of those people. And. It was a, it was an ongoing program for a little while. So it wasn't like just a one off course or a one-off day thing, and they'd done it, they'd gone through it. And I think they were still paying to be in something with this person and this person DMed them a voice DM saying, have you seen this course?
                I really think you should do it. And that was the one they did. So, not only did they DM them to cold sell them a course, but they DM someone who'd already done the course who they would've seen. And it's like, wow. Talk about not knowing who your people are. And like I said, we make mistakes things slip through the net, but if someone is sat on a session with me for some time or multiple times, I'm gonna know who they are.
                So, so, yeah, so I use the tech side in terms of like tagging and stuff like that, just to remind me, cause obviously, you know, when you get lots of people in your world, it does get a bit tricky try to remember it all. And I hate not remembering, and I've got a terrible memory, which really doesn't help.
                The next thing I do is I go and look at them on their website. I go and follow them on social media. So for instance, if someone is in my Insider Experience, or if someone has come to my event or someone signed up for something, maybe not a lead magnet granted, cuz you know, we have them all the time and, and that would be really difficult.
                But especially my members. It's really important for me to follow them and to see who they are and what they're doing and that way as well, I can get a feel for their life. I can get a feel for who they are and what they do, and what's important to them. And I think from a coaching point of view, that is really, really important and very much goes along my lines of, I've gotta get to know you.
                I've gotta know who you are. I've gotta know what's important to you. What your dream business looks like before I can even start to give you any advice. So, so going and following them, going and look at their site, maybe even making some notes on them. And I do this if, when we do like a five day challenge, we'll obviously set up a spreadsheet with everybody going into the group and we ask specific questions and we put all them on the spreadsheet so that I can go and look.
                And I always say, what's your business. So I can go and least give them a bit of a search. Also. I friend request some of the, I try and friend request people as well, if they're on Facebook. So I do try and personally make sure that I am seeing them and they're in my world. And then the other thing I do is I will voice DM people. So for instance, we've just done the insider experience and there are a number of people who are really active and really amazing. And I've DMed them today just saying, how did you get on, what did you think? Have you got any questions? Do you need anything? And it's not some salesy, spammy, horrible call or DM.
                It's just literally a I'm here. If you have a question and if they say it's not the right time, or it's not for them then. Absolutely fine. That's not a problem. But like I said, I just like to know that I'm accessible because I think the online world taught me that I'm not meant to be accessible. And yet that's what brings me joy in terms of, you know, hanging out with these people, getting to know them, having conversations with them.
                And also that's what is so important for my members. Not the fact of them dealing with one of my team. But the key bit that holds all this together is the fact that you have to give something to them, for them to connect with. So when we talk about making a personal connection, if I was really like behind a screen, or you get this Teresa or this version of me, then that's not making a personal connection.
                So. In order to do that, it requires me to show up personally, it requires me to be authentic and vulnerable and all of those good things, because otherwise they've got nothing to connect with me about, like the fact that my dog comes in and out my office often on calls and we'll have a lot of fuss. And if my hand goes down and starts moving weirdly, it's the dog.
                But you know, we have these conversations. Then one of the new members just joined and posted a picture of a puppy and I'm like, yes, I love a puppy. So again, it's like, You know, she knows the kind of connection because there's the dog connection there, or it could be the child connection, or it could be the, I like gin connection.
                Like you need to show some of you in order for them to, to really be able to connect with you. So it's not just about you doing the outreach and you find out about them. But it's also about them having the ability to, to find out about you. And like I said, it's that it's that want for, you know, a two week conversation.
                I had Denise Duffel-Thomas on not that long ago. And she was recently selling a new course and I DMed her saying and bearing in mind, obviously I have done an interview with her and we have chatted a little bit after the podcast, which was lovely, but you know, she's probably done a lot of podcasts, but I DMed her saying.
                "I'm watching your launch in awe looks amazing, you know, basically wishing you the best of luck." And she came back to me going, "Thank you, Teresa. That's so kind, really appreciate it." And then we had this whole conversation about the actual course and whether I should get it and all this kind of stuff.
                And she was like, you know, are you available for this call? And I said, no, I'm, it's like middle of the night. Cause obviously she's Australia. And she's like, if you got any questions, just DM me. And it's like, you're Denise Duffil-Thomas and you can do that. So I think. You know, I, I think the world of the celebrity online business owners is going, thank goodness.
                And yeah, I've got, you know, I have a huge amount of respect for Denise and I think she's wonderful, but she's just a human at the end of the day, like me and the fact that she's gonna appreciate to have a conversation with me, I think is really important. Yeah. I just think, I think we should like pull people off their pedestals a bit and go, you are great.
                You're amazing. And I love what you do. But it doesn't mean that like, you can't give me the time of day because you are this all big hero in my world or whatever. Anyway, I think I went off on a bit in a tangent there. But, and it's a really short episode and, and actually, while I'm here as well, sorry, this is like thoughts pouring out in my head.
                You know what it's like if you've been listening a while and if you haven't, then I'd love to pretend that's more structured than this, but it really isn't. So I've been thinking about the podcast and I don't panic. I'm not gonna stop the podcast, but I've just been thinking, how can I change things up a bit?
                How can I tweak them a bit? What can I do? We've actually put a hold on any more podcast applications because we are absolutely full with applications and the ones that I've said yes to so far, take us like halfway through the next year. And although batching is amazing, you know, I'm the queen batcher and I love doing that.
                It really makes me feel disjointed. It really makes me feel like. God, when was that conversation and what did we talk about? And I don't like that. So, so yeah, so I'm gonna be a bit stricter with who I'm letting on the podcast. And I had a really interesting conversation with another member who said, I actually don't like your interview once. She did say I don't like it.
                She said, I'm much fun when you are on your own. She wasn't as bothered about the interview once. So I'd really love to get some feedback. Is there something that you've seen someone do and you think that could be cool? So I just tip it on its head and do something completely different. It's not that I'm not happy with it.
                I am, I love the podcast, but I'm just interested, you know, a bit like my episode a few weeks ago, sometimes we need to change things up and I don't wanna break something that's working because the podcast is wonderful for me. And I love it. And I get to speak to really cool people, which is maybe a reason why I don't wanna give up the the interviews.
                And I've got a couple of really cool people who have reached out again. So that's nice. They're coming soon, but yeah, I'm interested. What are your thoughts? And I think sometimes it's really good to just sit and think about the business and think about what we're doing and question it.
                And this is what I think this is my job in the membership is to question people in a nice way and go. So someone came on the other day and was like, I'm doing this thing. And I was like, do you really wanna do it? And they're like, not really. And I'm like, why are you doing it then? So, yeah. I just think having that space to.
                To sit and think and question things and to get feedback is great. So yeah, I've gone completely around the houses. This is a very random episode. Can I please blame it on the fact that I've had a very busy week last week with the Insider Experience? And I had my in person event and I was recovering for an operation I had.
                So if that's why this is a bit of a crazy episode, then I apologize. The other thing I was gonna say quickly, it's like, this is just like a newsletter update is that the in-person event was so good. I loved it so very much. The feedback I'm getting from it is phenomenal. I'm so, so proud. And I'm gonna do it again next year twice.
                So this isn't the VIP thing. This is the per the day thing. And I might do, I'm gonna do the same venue, Birmingham for a couple of them, but I might do one up in Newcastle when I'm up there at Atomic Con. So, cause I'm speaking at Atomic Con this year, no next year, cuz it's 2023. So yeah, I might do one around there, up at Newcastle and then people who are from Scotland.
                Cause I had a couple of people come down from Scotland, but wow. It's a hell of a way. So yeah. So if you're interested in that, I think if you go to your dream business live as in teresaheathwareing.com/yourdreambusinesslive then there's a wait list and you can get on the wait list. But yeah, so I just like to tell you that's up.
                Anyway. I'm gonna leave you to it. Have a lovely rest of your day. I apologize that this has been such a random podcast episode, and I will sort myself out before I do anymore. Have a great day, and I will see you next week.
                19 min
              • How to grow your business without spending money on ads with Niki Hutchison
                Today’s episode of the podcast is an interview with Niki Hutchison, and we are talking all about content, and how to be seen in as many places as possible, through organic reach; as well as sharing our thoughts around the online world.
                Niki has spent most of her career creating and implementing marketing strategies to grow businesses. She has helped hundreds of small business owners, as well as large organisations like The NatWest Group, The Scottish Government, The UK Space Agency to improve their marketing strategies and effectiveness.
                Her goal is for entrepreneurial women to enjoy marketing and the results that it brings.
                This is such a great episode, and you’ll feel like you’re having a chat with us - so go grab your coffee, sit down, and join us!
                 
                KEY TAKEAWAYS COVERED IN THE PODCAST
                ●     The difference between organic marketing and paid marketing
                ●     Why organic marketing is the solid foundation you need in place
                ●     The importance of an authentic brand consistency
                ●     Different ways you can build your audience
                ●     How getting negative comments can actually help you show up more naturally as yourself
                ●     Why you need to pay attention to your insights and use them to be a detective in your own business
                ●     Why purpose is more important than how often you post
                ●     Why joining a membership isn’t enough, you need to join in too
                ●     Whether it’s possible to accelerate not caring what people think of you and showing up more authentically
                 
                THE ONE THING YOU NEED TO REMEMBER ABOVE ALL ELSE
                You are the only person who sees 100% of your content, so never think people will get bored of hearing from you; if they do, they’re not your people!
                 
                HIGHLIGHTS YOU SIMPLY CAN'T MISS
                ●     How to grow a business using organic marketing
                ●     What needs to be in place before you start doing organic marketing
                ●     How to choose the right place to be, when you’re just starting out
                 
                LINKS TO RESOURCES MENTIONED IN TODAY’S EPISODE
                Head over to part 2 on the Audience Growth Podcast
                 
                TRANSCRIPT
                 
                Hello, and welcome to this episode of the podcast. How are you doing? So we've got a really cool episode today. It's something a bit different. We thought we would try. And I'm really excited about it. Today is an interview with the lovely Niki Hutchison. And we're talking all about content and we're talking all about how to be seen as many places as possible.
                And we're talking about organic, so things that you don't have to pay for. So it's a great episode, loads of good stuff in it. And we have some cool conversations about being employed and then being, you know, having your own business and what that's like. But what's super cool about this is we decided to do a two-parter.
                We decided that we would do like a podcast swap where half the episode was on my podcast and then to listen to the rest of the episode, you need to go and listen to her podcast. So we thought that would be a really cool idea. And obviously half of the episode is on hers and hopefully her audience will come and listen to this half and if you are from Niki, Hi, welcome.
                Nice to have you. So yeah, so we thought we'd do that. We thought it was cool. We had a great chat. We got on so, well, I really, really like her. Uh she's. She came to my September event, which is ACE and yeah, it was just so, so good to have a conversation with her. So many things in common. We loved it. So I'm really excited about this episode.
                It's a really good conversation. It's definitely a one of like, get your coffee, sit down, or, you know, it's gonna feel like you're having a chat with us. It's really,really cool. So I'm not gonna take up any more time. I am gonna go straight to the interview. Enjoy.
                Okay. I am really excited today to welcome to this very special podcast Niki Hutchison. Niki, how you doing?
                Niki: Hi. I'm great. Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited about what we're doing today.
                Teresa: We're kind of, you know, cuz I'm more about honesty. We're kind of winging it if I'm honest. So we've decided that we're gonna do this cool concept of, we both have podcasts. We both wanted to interview each other.
                So we thought. What if we did like a two parter, one part on mine and one part on Niki's. So good luck listeners. Let's see how this goes. But as we're over on my podcast, let me start by as I always do Niki, please introduce yourself and tell everybody who you are and what you do.
                Niki: So my name's Niki Hutchison and I am a business and marketing expert. I work with entrepreneurial women who are looking to grow an engaged audience to grow their businesses.
                Teresa: Amazing. So you and I fit very nicely in terms of what we do. Have you always done this, Niki? What, what's your background? What did you come from?
                Niki: I haven't, I haven't, I worked as a brand strategist for many years in ad agencies, studied advertising, marketing, and then I had my kids and worked out that, that wasn't really a great environment for a working mother in my experience.
                And. I actually had, uh, I lost a lot of confidence as an employee. And so when I left, after my second maternity leave, I didn't have the confidence to set up anything related to marketing. So I set up a kid's hip hop dance company, as you do.
                Teresa: Well, they naturally seem to go from one to the other. Uh, I'm assuming you have some hip hop dance something. Or did you bring in a teacher?
                Niki: I cannot dance.
                Teresa: Perfect business.
                Niki: Yeah, doesn't it. Basically, my kids were young and also when I had been working in the agency, I'd been working on a big research project for the Scottish government into how to reduce antisocial behavior amongst children and young people.
                And the main findings were that they need a strong role model and an activity that they love. And I thought, "Hey, I could provide both of those with a hiphop dance company." So that's what I did. And I grew that business for eight years until the pandemic. So we were delivering classes all over Scotland in nursery schools, communities.
                I had a team of up to 40 at one point, and then the pandemic hit. And I quickly decided that actually the business model was not going to be viable for a very long time. And so I closed that down. And a few years prior to the pandemic, I had started this marketing business. Finally feeling that I had enough confidence and know how to run a marketing business. And so I started this business in 2017 and I've been growing it ever since.
                Teresa: That's so funny, like what was it that made you not have that confidence? Like, because I, I came from marketing as you may or may not know and don't agree in it where my entire life in it. And for me, when I left, it was just the most natural thing.
                What else was I going to do? Cuz that's all I knew, but my, how I'm helping with marketing has changed over the years of my business. So was there something in particular that made you go, "Do you know, I can't do this." Or was it just the process of having children and being out of it?
                Niki: No, it was, it was actually a boss. It was actually a male boss who treated his department badly, essentially. You know, in, I dunno if it's the same, you were client side marketing, weren't you?
                Teresa: Uh, yes. So I was for worked for an agency. Well, no, I worked for an agency and I was client side, so I've got folks.
                Niki: Oh, okay. Okay.
                Teresa: Yeah. So the last job I had, I was agency.
                Niki: So I signed often in agencies. There are people who are promoted because they're incredibly good at their jobs and they're very good with clients and they're great at what they do. And then all of a sudden they find themselves in charge of these departments and they actually haven't had any training in management.
                Yeah. Yeah. And I actually had an ectopic pregnancy in 2019 and I was off work. I'd lost so much blood. It was it, it ruptured misdiagnosed, bloody blah. I'd lost so much blood. Sorry, I'm saying 2019. That's wrong. 2009.
                Teresa: I was gonna say that time recent ago.
                Niki: Yeah. A long time ago. And I'd lost so much blood that I was off work for three months. And when I went back to work. I was pulled up on the work that I had been doing the day that I was hospitalized.
                Teresa: Oh, wow.
                Niki: And when I said, are you talking about this brief that I was writing the day that I was hospitalized? I was told everybody has off days. And that was just standards kind of office crap. I realised I like to swear on this podcast.
                Teresa: We can say crap, that's fine. Like see this, you know, it's something you'd done for all those years. You knew what you were doing. You were obviously good at what you did, cuz you couldn't have stayed in a job that entire time, if you weren't. And just because of some someone's bad management that then knocks your confidence, which then means, you know, And obviously you went into a business, which was great and you loved I'm assuming and was wonderful.
                But what if you didn't, what if you went into something that you hated or went into something, you know, or tried to get another job or, you know, all because of that one person, like. Just not having a boss is the best thing in the flipping world. Isn't it?
                Niki: Isn't it just, and I think that's why I'm sure you're the same. That's why I'm so passionate about helping other women particularly to grow their own businesses so that they don't have to have bosses like that. .
                Teresa: Yeah, absolutely. I dunno about you. One thing that I occasionally see though is because predominantly my audience is women. It's not that I specifically only target women, but I do attract a big women base.
                And often I see that sometimes those bosses are replaced with partners or husbands or family members that, you know, they're, they're out doing their thing, but they don't have the support from from their people who are immediate to them who are meant to love them and want, you know, cheerlead them regardless.
                So I think that's where you and I can come in in terms of going, you know, great if you've got that support and it is still great, but I still need support that isn't my husband, because he's not in my business. He doesn't understand what I'm doing at day to day. Sometimes we still need to be that support when they don't have a husband that supports them or isn't particularly kind about their business or doesn't see the vision or the dream.
                So I think even though we don't have bosses, so therefore we don't have to put up with that anymore, which is amazing. I think sometimes there are still people out there who, who are causing that for people who have their own businesses.
                Niki: Yeah. And I think that's where it's our job to try and show them that there is another possibility and that they can have that freedom. But yeah, they might have to talk a few people around.
                Teresa: Yeah. And I think as well, the boss thing was interesting cuz one of the reasons I left was because, uh, and it's funny cuz I get on with my boss very well now and she's lovely. And I loved her to bits then, but it got to the point where I was being managed so carefully.
                And I remember going to, I was going through a divorce and I didn't have a day off. I, you know, I went in and subbed a couple of times, but I didn't have a day off. I'd got my three four year old at the time and I'd show up and I'd do stuff. And I worked so hard and I worked so many hours and I'd go to breakfast meetings for, and I'd stay late and I would do stuff on the weekends.
                And I remember once going in and saying, "I've got a doctor's appointment, can I leave early?" And she said, "Yeah, as long as you make your hours up." And I was like, I'm sorry, like, and it's little stuff like that, that you're like, you've just treated me like an idiot and I've done all this stuff. And it just got to the point where I thought, do you know what?
                Like, I'd been through divorce, I've done all this stuff. I can't do it. I can't, I'm not, you know, and like I said, we are very good friends now. I really love her to bits. She's great. But I just couldn't stand that anymore. I just couldn't be that employee anymore. So tell me about starting the business then did you start in this guys? Has it always been that way or did you start and it changed.
                Niki: So this business, I started just doing one-to-one coaching with local women in person. And I set up my own networking event. So I ran a monthly in person networking event. And obviously I still had the dance company at this point. So that was all, that was all that I had space for. Really.
                And I kept things going. And I did a bit of consultancy for marketing agencies and just really kept my hand in with the marketing scene until the pandemic. And then when the pandemic hit, obviously it takes, somebody said to me, it takes three months to close a business and I thought nonsense, I'll have this done in a few weeks.
                Trust me, it takes three months to close up this stairs.
                Teresa: Seriously. Even in a pandemic when, technically in a pandemic like that. Like that is hilarious.
                Niki: So all of that was going on and at the same time, I was suddenly inundated with people who'd maybe been lurking following me for a while who were contacting me saying "I need to take my business online. I need to grow my online profile. Can you help me?" So it just all went mad.
                Teresa: Yeah.
                Niki: Did you find that in your business?
                Teresa: Oh, so much. It was really funny. Cause I remember when it first hit and I was like, oh, I suppose I've just put my feet up for a bit that would be ACE. And genuinely thought, like, you know, This is it's gonna be tough, but you know, I'll rest.
                It'll be nice. And then I got on a call with an old client who has an online business. And weirdly we had got, like, he had signed up for so many calls with me, one to one, and he, this one hour had just sat there for ages and he's like, and I'd reminded him months and months before. Anyway, he messaged me going, I've got an hour.
                I was like, yeah, yeah, get on a call, he's like, "I have to earn money." I think he was the main earner in his family. And he was, "I forgot to earn money. What can I do?" So I was like, "Right. Do this, do this, do this, do this." And I, and I got off that call and I was like, "What am I doing? I've just told him what to do."
                And yet I'm sat here going, oh, I'll probably just rest up for a bit. So I, I found. And it'd be interesting to hear what you think about this, actually, cuz I found that first year was amazing. Like best that I've had in a long while I was doing, although I wasn't speaking in person, which I miss dreadfully, I was speaking online constantly, you know, this whole like people in their pajamas permanently and I haven't washed me out for 20 days.
                None of that for me, full face of makeup, fully dressed every single day. Cause I'm on camera, but then I've noticed a dip in the last year or so. I've noticed that, and I've tried to tweak and change how I'm doing things, but I have noticed that it suddenly shot up cuz everybody needed it exactly the same.
                I've got people that I'd had conversations with years before going "I need it now." And it's like, "You know, it doesn't work like that, don't you, but let's do see what we can do." and, but then I found about a year and a half after the pandemic. I found it starting to change again, and I'm not sure how or where it's going and I'm trying to move with it, but I have found a change of you.
                Niki: A hundred percent. So during the, about a year into the pandemic, I think, no, that's not right. About six months in, I decided I was gonna start a mastermind program. So I ran a pilot that went brilliantly and then I decided, right. I'm gonna up my game here and I'm going to run instead of one group of eight, I'm gonna have three groups of eight and I'm gonna run an online challenge and I'm gonna bring people in.
                So that's what we did. And that was about a year in. So March 2021.Ran the challenge had nearly a thousand people involved.
                Teresa: Whoa.
                Niki: It was mad. I've got a free Facebook community. Every that was going off, everybody was loving this challenge and I filled the three groups. Really easily. Ran that program and then said, right.
                I'm just gonna rinse and repeat. So that was maybe October last year and wow it was hard work to get people into that challenge. So where we had, obviously iOS 14 had happened. All the changes to, uh, Facebook ads. And I had to bring in, I had to bring in all of my organic marketing methods and work a ton harder to get the same number of people into that challenge.
                So, yeah. I totally hear what you're saying.
                Teresa: Yeah. And I'm not sure. I don't know if we're there yet. I don't don't think we're definitely not there yet. We don't know what, what is happening because it's interesting. So I try to interact the the difficulty with the online. Cause I think people, people were all for it and then they just got so fed up of it.
                And no one wanted to do a flipping zoom party anymore and no one wanted to do whatever, whatever. So I think that like, and as the world started to open up, of course, people wanted to go out and do things and see people. And so then I tried to counteract it with an, with an in person event, which went fine was great.
                Didn't fill it the first time. The second time I got the numbers I wanted, but I made it smaller. And now I've just announced my event in September by the time this goes out, it might have already been for me anyway. But, but again, that, those sales aren't going as well as I would like because I just think generally coming off the back of a pandemic, everything that's happening and not that, you know, this is not a, uh, news podcast by any stretch of the imagination.
                I have definitely no extra that, like, you know, we went into the whole Russia thing and now we're going into, and the Brexit thing, and then we're going into all these things. And I think. What's really difficult is that in itself is having an impact on everyone's business, which is then having an impact on our businesses.
                But actually now's the time to, or I feel like now's the time to shift, change, learn, network, move, do something because if I didn't. My business would go. Like if, if I don't move with the times the same as the pandemic, if we didn't all shift to the way we needed to, excuse me, it would, it would go. Whereas now we've gotta do the same.
                We've gotta make sure we're doing the same. Whereas I think what happens is everyone pulls in and when they pull in, they cancel everything, they stop doing everything, but then all they're doing is sitting there and waiting for that, that wave to go. And it's like, well, you're gonna drown while you're waiting.
                So for me, even though it's
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