Early dating is a strategy—and if you don’t have one, you’re winging it. Erin and Abe get into the game: when to text, when to wait, and when to move on. They talk first dates, second dates, attraction, sex, and the subtle power dynamics that play out along the way. Also in this episode: Erin’s cookbook announcement, her billboard debut in Times Square, Met Gala afterparties, and what it’s really like trying to date your spouse while raising four kids.

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