Welcome back De-Influencers, Jordan stans this one's for you! Well, it’s also for everybody because we’re talking about some hot topics with Christian Author, Jefferson Bethke. We De-Inlfuence Bethke, get into how he started writing books and became focused on defying the norms of the Christian culture. We talk about all things family, men, marriage, parenting, gender roles and societal norms and TRUST us… it’s nothing like what you think it is.  We also ask him some controversial questions about Christian Influencers, if Jesus and his disciples would use social media AND celebrity pastors. This podcast is JAM packed with helpful knowledge and a lot of Dani and Jordan picking Bethkes’ brain. If you liked this episode make sure you let us know in the comment so Jordan can keep up his guest ideas! If you want to follow Jefferson and what he’s up to here are his socials and most recent books: Instagram: @jeffersonbethke Books: To Hell With the Hustle  Take Back Your Family Fighting Shadows De-Influencers, you know we love you to hear what you think of our episodes and guests so let us know either here on Spotify or on our socials. If you haven’t, go follow @deinfluencedpodcast on Instagram and TikTok where we aim to provide you with comedic relief that you can share with family or friends who may not know about us. We’d also love for you guys to subscribe to De-Influenced on spotify or wherever you get your podcast so you never miss our incredibly entertaining episodes.  WE LOVE YOU!! XOXO