On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen sit down with one of Jen’s best friends, Jason Abel. Jason starts by telling embarrassing stories about Jen from growing up, which you don't want to miss. Then, Jason shares his story of coming out as a gay man at age 24 to Jen - the first person that he told. He explains his thought process in telling Jen, how he told his parents, their reactions, and the expectations he - and many others - had/have before doing so. We hear about Jason's dating and relationship experiences, discuss the differences in talking about sex and sexual compatibility as a gay man vs. a straight woman, society's expectations, and the things we can work to unlearn. At the end of the episode, Jason shares the advice he would give to his younger self, followed by a rapid fire interview of Em & Jen with some thought provoking questions for them!

0:25 - Intro

0:33 - How Jen & Jason know each other 

6:20 - The story of Jen being the first person Jason came out to

17:40 - Telling his family

31:20 - Starting to date men & his first relationships

39:17 - Calling BS

43:04 - Advice Jason would give to his younger self

46:14 - Rapid fire questions Jason has for Em & Jen

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