Pantsuit Politics

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  • Feeling Powerless in a Red State? Meet the Mulligans

    Beth is out this week, but we're sharing a conversation we both had with John and Cindy Mulligan of Owensboro, Kentucky. After years of feeling like all they had were opinions, the Mulligans helped start Yellow Banks PAC, a nonpartisan, small-donor political action committee working at the local level in a deep red corner of the state. They talk about why they chose a PAC, how they brought in lawyers and consultants to build their "shark cage," the billboard that got their community talking, and what it's felt like to trade despair for agency.

    Then, outside of politics, Sarah shares what life looks like two and a half months into running Meander Bookshop inside Piper's Tea and Coffee in Paducah: turning the table, what sells when she's not there, the lessons of rearranging everything on a Sunday, and why fall releases are about to be bananas.

    Episode resources:

    • Yellow Banks PAC: yellowbankspack.org

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      45 min
    • Democratic Socialists Are Winning. Now What?

      Beth is still on vacation, so Sarah drafted a guest co-host she's been married to for 23 years. Sarah and Nicholas run through the headlines — Iran's "low-key" chess game, the cost of absolutely everything, and the Flock cameras multiplying across the country — before digging into the state of the Democratic Party: the DSA's rise, AOC, purity tests, and why Barack Obama is somehow still the party's leader. Then, Outside of Politics, the full report on the Hollands' 3,000-mile RV trip from hell — eight states, four national parks, one brutal adenovirus, and a PSA about the rental company.


      Join us in Minneapolis on August 29 — or grab a virtual ticket to watch the live show from home: https://www.pantsuitpoliticsshow.com/p/2026-events


      Support the show and get access to News Briefs, Spicy Live bonus episodes, and community: https://pantsuitpolitics.substack.com


      Iran

      • Trump to Axios: "We are low-keying it" with Iran (Axios): https://www.axios.com/2026/08/09/trump-iran-interview
      • The Economy

        • July jobs report: US economy shed 23,000 jobs (NBC News): https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/july-2026-jobs-report-rcna591138
        • The Employment Situation — July 2026 (BLS): https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
        • Chick-fil-A keeps winning over customers despite quietly increasing prices by 55% (Market Realist): https://marketrealist.com/how-much-have-menu-prices-of-chick-fil-a-gone-up/
        • Substack essay on Chick-fil-A pricing that Sarah mentioned (add link)
        • Surveillance & Flock Cameras

          • The New York Times on Flock cameras (add link)
          • How rogue officers turned a nationwide camera network into a tool for stalking (The Washington Post): https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/08/02/how-police-officers-used-vast-network-cameras-spy-their-exes/
          • Police cameras tracked one driver 526 times in four months, lawsuit says (NBC News): https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/virginia-police-used-flock-cameras-track-driver-safety-lawsuit-surveil-rcna230399
          • The Democratic Party

            • Platner's Top Strategist on What Went Wrong | The Ezra Klein Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xET1CqVTrNE
            • Pantsuit Politics on the Reagan legacy (add link)

            • Outside of Politics: The RV Trip

              • Theodore Roosevelt Presidential Library — Plan Your Visit: https://www.trlibrary.com/visit
              • Medora Musical: https://medora.com/medoramusical/
              • Pitchfork Steak Fondue: https://medora.com/pitchforksteakfondue/
              • Sun Tours — Blackfeet-owned tours of Glacier National Park: https://www.suntours.co/
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                52 min
              • My Hometown Is Getting a $100 Billion Data Center

                The breaking news in Sarah's hometown is the breaking news everywhere:

                Paducah, Kentucky is getting a $100 billion data center. Sarah is joined
                by Lacey Bowling, head of Paducah Cooperative Ministries, to talk about
                what the anti-data center backlash gets right and wrong — water, power
                bills, pollution, tax subsidies — and the deeper story: a trust vacuum
                at every level of government and a growing sense that the wealth isn't
                for the rest of us. Outside of Politics: their kids are officially high
                school seniors.


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                1 hr 10 min
              • Talking Ourselves Into Gavin Newsom?

                Beth is out for two more weeks, so I've got a guest host: Laura Tremaine, my co-host over at Slow Read. We start in California, where Laura has lived for 25 years, and get honest about Gavin Newsom — the trolling, Prop 50, the podcast with Charlie Kirk, and why even the people rolling their eyes at him keep talking themselves into him for 2028. That opens up a bigger question we can't stop circling: what does the Democratic Party actually stand for right now, with no leader and no message? Then we get into that viral Atlantic piece, "The End of Reading Is Here." We talk about slow reading as an antidote to algorithmic media, what our civic life loses when people stop reading books, and why neither of us is ready to call it over just yet. We also announce our next Slow Read book. Outside of Politics: the summer the movies came back. The Odyssey, Spider-Man, Toy Story 5, and whether Christopher Nolan is our new Spielberg.

                Two weeks left to grab tickets to our live show in Minneapolis on August 29: https://www.pantsuitpoliticsshow.com/p/join-us-in-minneapolis-94f

                Topics discussed:

                • Gavin Newsom, California Politics, and the 2028 Democratic Primary

                • The Democrats' Search for a Fighter (and a Message)

                • Slow Reading as an Antidote to Algorithmic Media

                • The Atlantic's "The End of Reading" and What It Means for Civic Life

                • Slow Read's Next Book: Outlander

                • Outside of Politics: The Summer the Movies Came Back

                Mentioned in this episode:

                The End of Reading Is Here (The Atlantic) — https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/08/reading-crisis-postliterate-age/687618/

                Slow Read — https://slowread.substack.com

                Laura Tremaine's Secret Stuff — https://secretstuff.substack.com


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                1 hr 20 min
              • Trust But Verify: Teen Driving with Dr. Charlie Klauer

                Teen driving is the leading cause of death among adolescents — and most of us are completely winging it when we hand over the keys. Dr. Charlie Klauer is a Research Scientist and Associate Professor of Industrial and Systems Engineering at Virginia Tech. She's spent fifteen years doing naturalistic driving research: cameras and sensors in teenagers' cars, watching what they actually do. We took notes and hope you'll find her learnings helpful, too.
                Topics discussed:
                Why teen driving is more dangerous than most parents realize
                How to structure the learner's permit period for maximum practice
                Night driving, interstate driving, and other milestone moments to sequence carefully
                How parents' own driving habits shape teens behind the wheel
                Apps and tools for monitoring teen drivers without being in the car
                Why giving a teen "their own" car may increase risky driving
                At what age teens should start learning — and why waiting until 18 isn't the answer
                Dr. Klauer's survey for parents (link in show notes)
                Join us live in Minneapolis on August 29 — virtual tickets available at pantsuitpoliticsshow.com.

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                37 min
              • Inside the Organ Donation System with NYT's Brian Rosenthal

                It's easy to check the organ donor box on your driver's license without thinking too much about how organs are treated and routed to people who need them. NYT investigative reporter Brian Rosenthal thoroughly examined the system. His complicated findings have led to congressional inquiry and meaningful progress. This is a conversation about where the system fell short, what his reporting changed, and what still needs work.
                Topics discussed:
                How the organ transplant system actually works (it's not really a list)
                Why doctors can refuse organs offered to their patients — and patients are never told
                What federal pressure on organ procurement organizations produced in Kentucky
                How the priority list was being bypassed 20% of the time — and why time pressure wasn't actually the reason
                Wealthy foreign nationals getting faster organ access at certain U.S. hospitals
                What's changed since Brian's reporting and what reforms are now in place
                The future of organ donation: animal organs, AI matching, printed organs

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                52 min
              • What Kids Actually Need When the News is Scary

                Kids who are anxious about the news might not need to hear less — they might need to know more. Tracy Kaplan, creator of The 10 News (a podcast for kids and families ages 8-12), has spent six years helping kids make sense of everything from the Russia-Ukraine war to gun violence to banned books. What she's learned about talking to kids about hard news is useful for parents too.
                Topics discussed:
                Why kids' anxiety about the news is often rooted in a knowledge gap, not the news itself
                How The 10 News covers scary topics like school shootings — and why vagueness can be worse than directness
                What kids actually want to know more about (spoiler: more politics, not less)
                How to cover hard stories without being condescending
                The shift toward more international coverage over six years
                What it looks like to watch a generation of kids grow up through the news

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                28 min
              • Vinok Libraries: Bringing Books to Ukraine's Children

                One of the hardest parts of paying attention to international news is wondering: what can I, one person, do about this? Today's guest, Gwyn Ridenhour, asked herself that question and answered in an extraordinary way. She moved to Lviv, Ukraine, to put books in the hands of children living through the war. Her project, Vinok Libraries, is small and specific and a quiet wonder. Today, she tells us about the work she's doing and how we can help.
                Topics discussed:
                What drew Gwyn to Ukraine — and why she moved there during the war
                How Vinok Libraries works: sourcing books, shipping them to Ukraine, distributing to schools
                The language politics of children's books in Ukraine (Ukrainian, English, and the gap)
                Delivering books near the front line and what that looked like in person
                What $500 means to a school that's been bombed
                The bookmobile dream and how to support it

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                41 min
              • Building Cities (and Lives) Kids Can Actually Move Through

                While Sarah's on summer break, Beth talks with writer and urban planner Angie Schmitt about giving yourself permission to feel lighter about the news this summer, then digs into what's gone wrong with how American cities and neighborhoods are built for kids — from car-dependent suburbs to vanishing teen hangouts.


                Topics discussed:

                • Taking an emotional break from the news without checking out entirely
                • ICE shootings, cabinet confirmation hearings, and the Iran war
                • Why car-dependent neighborhoods limit kids' independence
                • The nationwide school bus driver shortage
                • Disappearing teen hangouts and rules around unsupervised kids
                • How lawsuit-aversion backfires on children's wellbeing
                • Rebuilding civic infrastructure — rec leagues, public pools, community schools
                • Book recommendations: Shiloh and The Sheep Detectives

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                  57 min
                • Graham Platner's Collapse, the Progressive Movement, and AI's Accountability Gap

                  Beth is joined by guest host Alex McCoy, a progressive organizer focused on holding Big Tech accountable, for a conversation about what breaks trust and how to rebuild it. They start with what the collapse of the Graham Platner campaign reveals about the progressive movement's relationship with imperfect candidates, then turn to the accountability vacuum around AI — who's making decisions about our jobs, our data, and our lives, and why almost nobody is calling their member of Congress about it.

                  Topics discussed:

                  • Graham Platner's Senate campaign collapse and what it means for progressive candidate recruitment
                  • Trust, accountability, and the "the groups are the problem" debate in Democratic politics
                  • What voters actually want from elected officials
                  • AI's growing role in hiring, firing, workplace surveillance, and government decisions
                  • The AI industry's political spending and lobbying power
                  • How to actually get your member of Congress to pay attention to AI
                  • Alex McCoy's immersive medieval battle reenactment hobby

                  • Beth talked with Alex about the kind of in-person community his medieval weekends create — that's exactly what's waiting in Minneapolis on August 29. Grab tickets here.

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                    1 hr 13 min

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