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The Big Book

The 12 and 12

24 Hours a Day

Came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity

The second step is about hope, a Higher Power, and dealing with reality.

This step logically follows step 1 in which we surrendered and gave up.

With surrender comes all kinds of unmedicated feelings.

We have to face

Feelings we haven't dealt with in years or maybe ever.

We likely will have to confront uncomfortable emotions like

our fear, anger, hopelessness.

For us with chemical dependency,

we have to face these things without alcohol and drugs.

For us with codependency,

we have to face these emotions without blame, shame, and self harm

If all of us in this room are powerless,

how can we solve these problems?

How can we cope?

That is why we need step 2, we need a power greater than ourselves.

Let’s go to you first Kayla.

Welcome back to the studios

where have you been?

What is your sobriety date?

where is you home group?

who is your sponsor?

What are your initial thoughts?

Where do you want to begin?

What does the phrase “Power greater than ourselves” mean to you?

What does the term sanity in this step mean to you?

Why does the step say that a Power greater than ourselves

could restore us to sanity rather than

would restore us to sanity?

On the Power greater than yourself issue, where did you start in your belief?

Has your belief system changed?

How?

What is willingness and how does that work in this step?

Have you ever had to be willing to be willing to make a start?

Addiction is a disease of loneliness, how does this fellowship help?

How has the fellowship helped you?

We have calls

first call

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Jen

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Russ

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Sarah

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Clyde

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Kurt

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Jeanie

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How is sanity and reality related?

Tell us about your step 2 story?

What would you say to the new person about step 2?

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The Big Book

The 12 and 12

24 Hours a Day

The Big Book devotes 2 whole chapters to Step 1;

Chapter II, There is a Solution and Chapter  III, More About Alcoholism

Step 1 is an admission of the central problem we face as alcoholics.

Once we can admit our powerlessness,

a door opens to the solution to our problem.

What does it mean to you to admit something?

Why do you think the step says, “We admitted”

rather than “I admitted?”

What does the term “powerless over alcohol”  mean to you?

What are some of you experiences?

What does the term “our lives had become unmanageable” mean to you?

What are some of your experiences?

On page 30 of the big book, it reads,

“We learned that we had to fully concede to our innermost selves that we were alcoholics. This is the first step in recovery. The delusion that we are like other people, or presently may be, has to be smashed.”

The book tells us that we had to learn that we had to being powerless to alcohol..

Where did you learn your powerlessness? (big book, meetings, open talks, podcasts, etc)

What does fully concede mean to you?

concede - admit that something is true or valid after first denying or resisting it.

What should a person do if they are not sure they are alcoholic?

Who are we to admit our alcoholism to? Who really matters? Why?

We have Calls

Tony

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Russ

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Buddy

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Bill from NJ

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from kurt

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Jeanie

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When you took step one,

was it an intellectual acceptance or

was it more like an emotional acceptance?

The Big Book and the 12 and 12 describe the process of step 1 as:

utter defeat

bankruptcy

hopelessness and

hitting bottom

Why does it have to be this painful? (12 and 12, p. 24)

What did the first step accomplish for you?

What would you say to the new guy about step 1?

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The Big Book

The 12 and 12

24 Hours a Day

This is the time of year when

Fear of Financial Insecurity can be stressful

The credit card bills from the holiday spending are on the way,

and now as a sober person,

we are supposed to pay them off.

The 9th step promises include:

Fear of people and of

economic insecurity will leave us.

The promise doesn’t say

financial insecurity will leave us,

it says the fear

of financial insecurity will leave us.

It implies that it is normal to have financial insecurity

we just don’t have to have the fear.

This has probably been the most difficult

part of recovery

my Fear

and fear specifically to my financial life

I can let go of controlling alcohol

I have a hard time letting go of financial fear

so how do we do this, this is what I’d like to explore tonight

But let’s start with some definitions

Let’s start with some basic understandings

Fear of people and of

economic insecurity will leave us.

What does this mean to you?

Why is fear dangerous to the alcoholic?

How does the program help with fear?

What does it mean to you to have financial insecurity without fear?

How does your higher power play a role here?

The 12 and 12 reads:

Upon entering A.A., the spectacle of years of waste threw us into panic.

Financial importance was no longer our principal aim;

we now clamored for material security.

Years of waste threw us in a panic….Can you relate to this experience?

What does financial importance mean to you?

How is clamoring for material security a bad thing in recovery?

The 12 and 12 reads:

Even when we re-established in our business,

terrible fears often continued to haunt us.

This made us misers and penny-pinchers all over again.

Complete financial security we must have -- or else.

Thoughts, comments, experiences?

We Have Calls

Kristin

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Mike

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Clyde

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12 and 12 reads

We forgot that most alcoholics in A.A.

have an earning power considerably above average;

we forgot the immense good will of our brother A.A.'s

who were only too eager to help us to better jobs when we deserved them;

we forgot the actual or potential financial insecurity

of every human being in the world.

And, worst of all, we forgot God.

In money matters we had faith only in ourselves, and not too much of that.

Your thoughts on having faith in our sobriety,

but not in our financial matters?

Now, the solution

Losing Financial Fears

When a job still looked like a mere means of getting money rather than an opportunity for service,

looks like the book is telling us that using our financial gifts as a tool for service is the key

when the acquisition of money for financial independence looked more important than a right dependence upon God, we were the victims of unreasonable fears. And these were fears which would make a serene and useful existence, at any financial level, quite impossible. But as time passed we found that with the help of A.A.'s Twelve Steps we could lose those fears, no matter what our material prospects were. We could cheerfully perform humble labor without worrying about tomorrow. If our circumstances happened to be good, we no longer dreaded a change for the worse, for we had learned that these troubles could be turned into great values, for ourselves and for others.

Money as a gift to be used for others, your thoughts?

ABSI 75: TWELVE AND TWELVE, PP. 121-122

Fear

Greed

possessiveness

pride

how are these character defects the friend of financial insecurity?

What steps, prayers, what tools of recovery help?

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The Big Book

The 12 and 12

24 Hours a Day

In our program, it’s our responsibility to make plans.

We should just be careful not to plan the outcomes to specifically.

We can make a plan, just be careful that it doesn't turn into an expectation.

An expectation that is unreasonably high is a premeditated resentment.

An expectation that is too low is a premeditated disappointment.

and resentments and disappointments are both dangerous for us alcoholics.

So, we alcoholics need to be careful in this business of resolution making

we need to be careful as we plan our recovery life for the next year.

We need to be flexible as we plan

Our higher power may have a different idea of what the outcome will be.

My experience, I need to be flexible or else I will be miserable.

Do you have any Recovery Plans for 2016?

What are they?

March Round up maybe as a member of the media, not sure what that means

Doing a 4th and 5th with Russ on specific topic

Probably going to do a 12-hour podcast to benefit Dawn Farm’s Detox Unit

How did you decide on those specific needs?

What tools, steps, prayers, what recovery methods

do you plan to use to achieve those goals?

What would make your recovery happier?

What specific actions will you take to keep you on track?

We have Calls

Jim Q

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Mandy

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Christie

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What were some of your past recovery plans that you tried?

For the new guy, what tips would you suggest when making plans?

Some Goal Setting Tips

How do you deal with plans not achieved?

What is the difference between expectations and plans

How do you make plans and manage expectations?

What advice would you give the new person who is making recovery plans for the first time?

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The Big Book

The 12 and 12

24 Hours a Day

Peace of mind can be defined as a State of being where people are unfazed with the ups and downs of life.

As an alcoholic,

I was unable to cope with the ups and downs of life and used alcohol as my solution,

my recovery rests on my ability to achieve serenity

so that I can cope without using alcohol.

As s codependent,

my serenity was based on how well I perceived Andrew, my qualifier, was doing.

In this case, Andrew's state and my ability to control,

was my drug addiction, i could not leave it alone.

If Andrew was ok, I was ok.

When Andrew was struggling, so was I.

How about you?

Before program, what was your understanding of serenity?

How did you achieve serenity or peace of mind before program?

Early in program, what was your initial reaction to the serenity prayer?

Did you try it?

What was your experience?

How was your understanding of higher power when you first came in?

How did your higher power relate to Peace of Mind when you were new?

What are the things that threaten your serenity?  

Are they different today compared to before program?  

Are they different from when you were new?

WE HAVE Calls

lynn

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Clyde

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How does humility relate to peace of mind for you?

How does dependence (on job, money, people, sponsor, meetings,etc.) affect your serenity?

How does a sponsor help with serenity?

How do meetings help?

How does service work help?

Today, what tools, steps, slogans, prayers help to achieve Peace of Mind?

Slogans to ponder

Do the next right thing

Keep your side of the street clean

This too shall pass

Do I want to be right or do I want to be happy

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The Big Book

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Anna S. gives her experience, strength, and hope at the Traverse City Fall Roundup on October 31, 2014. This is Anna's first public share on what it used to be like, what happened, and what it's like now.