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In this thought-provoking episode, we dive deep into a compelling New York Times article that challenges how we view obesity—is it a disease or just a symptom of a larger issue? This sparks a broader conversation about alcoholism and addiction. Could it be that, like obesity, alcoholism is merely masking deeper, underlying problems?
Join Matt and Steve as they explore their personal journeys with recovery and weight loss, drawing fascinating parallels between the two. They discuss the struggles of overcoming addiction, whether to alcohol or food, and how societal perceptions might be missing the mark. Is it time to rethink how we approach recovery and treatment?
Whether you’re navigating your own path to recovery or simply curious about a new way to think about addiction, this episode is sure to spark some insightful reflections. Plus, don’t miss the link to the original article for a deeper dive into this eye-opening perspective!
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Never Enough: The Neuroscience and Experience of Addiction by Judith Grisel
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Are you feeling stuck in your recovery journey, seeing the same faces and hearing the same stories over and over again? You’re not alone. In this episode, we dive deep into the rut that many of us experience and how stepping out of your comfort zone can reignite your passion for sobriety. Join Matt as he shares his recent experience as a speaker at a virtual newcomer’s meeting, where the fresh energy and diverse voices revitalized his commitment to service. We also explore the value of switching up your routine, from virtual meetings with international participants to intimate small group gatherings, and the unexpected ways these can help combat that feeling of disconnection. Whether you’re struggling with motivation or just curious about how others are keeping things fresh, this episode is packed with insights and practical tips to help you reconnect with your recovery. Tune in, and let’s rediscover the joy of the journey together!
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In this episode of the Sober Friends Podcast, we dive into the deep end of social anxiety and imposter syndrome—two common struggles that many of us face, especially on our sober journeys. Join us as we share personal stories of navigating awkward social situations, feeling like outsiders, and the challenge of finding our place in new communities. Whether it’s at a kid’s soccer game or a fancy dinner party, we’ve all experienced those moments of not fitting in. But what do we do when these feelings become overwhelming, and how can we learn to cope without turning to alcohol?
We’ll also explore the surprising connections between social anxiety and drinking in isolation, and share practical strategies for building connections, one person at a time. Plus, a heartfelt shoutout to our amazing listener who bought us a coffee and shared how our podcast helps them stay positive on their sober path. If you’re struggling with social anxiety, or just want to hear some relatable stories and tips on staying true to your sober self, this episode is for you.
Join us, connect, and remember—you belong here.
Fit, Healthy & Happy PodcastListen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify
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In this deeply personal episode, we dive into the striking parallels between food indulgence and the battles of addiction. It all started with a simple craving for greasy food that spiraled into a night of severe discomfort and unexpected reflection. Join us as we explore how one small slip-up triggered memories of past struggles with alcohol, leading to a profound conversation about recovery, self-destruction, and the daily battles to maintain sobriety. Whether it’s greasy food or alcohol, sometimes the things we enjoy the most are the ones we must learn to live without. This episode is a candid look at why we fall into destructive patterns, how we pick ourselves back up, and the vital importance of sharing our stories along the way.
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The fourth and fifth steps can cause a lot of fear when we first come into a twelve step group. For me, they were liberating. We discuss why the fourth and fifth steps are so important. This is not a how to, this is why they are great steps, how they help you learn more about yourself and why you drink and help you understand how to stay away from the bottle. The fifth step helps you build trust and to have a deep conversation with an another alcoholic about your defects and how you have similarities.
What was your experience with the fourth and fifth steps? Let us know at [email protected] and on instagram @soberfriendspod.
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In this episode, we dive deep into the world of sobriety among well-known public figures. From presidents to Hollywood stars, many famous faces have openly battled addiction, offering both inspiration and complex reflections on the struggle with substance abuse. Steve and I explore what it means to see these celebrities maintain sobriety, how it resonates with those of us in recovery, and whether their stories bring hope or highlight the harsh realities of this relentless disease. Join us as we discuss the triumphs and trials of living a sober life, no matter the resources at hand.
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You get both of these amazing episodes in one day! If you have not listened to my excellent interview with William Schaberg, then you are in luck today! If you have, you'll love going over this again! I hope you consider buying his book, "Writing the Big Book," which I will link in the notes. You'll be blown away by Bill's insight.
In Part 2 of the interview with Bill Schaberg, we discuss:
Check out Bill Schaberg's site writingthebigbook.com where you can pick up his book, Writing the Big Book.
Learn more about Hank Parkhurst at hankparkhurst.com
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I love this episode and its so far in the back of the catalogue, you may not have seen it, especially if you are a new listener. I got the privilege of interviewing William Schaberg, author of the book, "Writing the Big Book." To me, it's the definitive history of the period when Bill write the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous. Here is what we discuss:
Check out Bill Schaberg's site writingthebigbook.com where you can pick up his book, Writing the Big Book.
Learn more about Hank Parkhurst at hankparkhurst.com
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In this episode of the Sober Friends Podcast, Matt dives deep into the often challenging topic of faith and spirituality in recovery. Reflecting on his personal struggles with the concept of a higher power, Matt shares his experiences and doubts, from growing up in a Catholic household to grappling with the notion of an afterlife. He explores the conflicts many face when reconciling scientific reasoning with spiritual beliefs, especially within the context of sobriety and 12-step programs.
Join us as Matt candidly discusses the feelings of envy towards those with strong faith, the fear of vulnerability in giving control over to a higher power, and the desire for a more concrete understanding of the divine. Whether you're religious, agnostic, or just curious, this episode offers a thought-provoking exploration of belief, doubt, and the quest for meaning in a sober life. Tune in to connect with Matt's journey and share your own experiences and insights on faith in sobriety.
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I struggle with what I can't control. If things are not going my way and I have no control over it, it can cause me great stress. That's when I think of the serenity prayer and try to learn from it's wisdom. In this episode, we discuss those things we think we'd control much better and learn when to let go.
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Ever feel like you’re the only one who thinks this way?
The Sober Friends Podcast is for people who are learning that recovery is about more than quitting drinking—it’s about…
Every week, Matt and Steve have honest conversations about the challenges that don’t disappear when alcohol does: anxiety, control, relationships, fear, loneliness, resentment, people-pleasing, and the ongoing work of emotional sobriety.
Because getting sober doesn’t automatically make life easier. It just gives you the opportunity to face life differently.
No gurus. No perfection. No pretending to have it all figured out.
Just two friends with long-term sobriety sharing what they’ve learned, what they’re still learning, and how recovery continues to shape their lives years after their last drink.
Whether you’re questioning your drinking, newly sober, or years into recovery, you’ll find practical insights, honest conversations, and reminders that growth doesn’t end when the alcohol is gone.
New episodes every week.
Matt and Steve are members of Alcoholics Anonymous but speak only from their own experience. This podcast is not affiliated with Alcoholics Anonymous.

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