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Feel your chest tighten every time you open the accounts?
Often, the pressure you feel around money in your business has very little to do with the numbers, as our guest this week found out...
Many recruitment business owners carry pressure around money that goes far deeper than monthly revenue or market conditions.
In this episode of The Recruitment CEO's Inside Guide, Katy Green speaks with Lucy Bayliss, a recruitment business owner who attended Beyond Beliefs, our leadership retreat created specifically for people who feel lost inside their own business.
Before the retreat, Lucy was running a stable recruitment agency while experiencing persistent money anxiety that influenced how she handled investment decisions, cash flow visibility and growth planning.
Beliefs about financial security absorbed years earlier were shaping her leadership behaviour and affecting how confidently she approached financial strategy.
Stepping away from the day-to-day demands of her recruitment business created the space to examine those beliefs directly.
During a midnight ceremony that invited participants to release unresolved emotional weight, she confronted the financial stories that had been influencing her confidence as a business owner.
Since returning to her agency, Lucy speaks about money with far greater steadiness.
Conversations about revenue and cash flow no longer carry the same internal tension, and financial planning feels deliberate. Investment decisions are made with clarity, strengthening how she leads and how she approaches agency growth.
This episode examines the relationship between money mindset and recruitment leadership, showing how financial anxiety can influence agency growth without a founder fully recognising it.
By addressing the beliefs behind those reactions, Lucy has gained clearer financial judgement and stronger direction in her recruitment business strategy.
We dive into:
If you recognise yourself in this conversation and can see how money anxiety is influencing your leadership or business decisions, this is the work we do.
Beyond Beliefs is designed for founders and leaders who want clarity around financial decisions, confidence in growth strategy and steadiness in how they lead.
If you would like to explore working with us, or simply want to share your thoughts after listening, email [email protected]. We read every message.
Most recruitment business owners are trying to lead better, grow faster and scale their agencies without realising what's actually driving their behaviour.
In this episode of The Recruitment CEO's Insider Guide, host Katy Green sits down with Rob Lenaghan, a recruitment business owner who attended Beyond Beliefs - our immersive retreat designed to help leaders deconstruct the unconscious biases and mental blocks holding them back.
Rob walked away with a powerful realisation that every founder needs to hear: you can't change patterns you can't see.
Before the retreat, Rob describes the classic symptoms of "founder burnout" - feeling mentally overloaded, struggling to create balance and unknowingly letting past experiences shape how he showed up - both in business and in life.
Like many busy recruitment leaders, he was focused on pushing forward and "doing more," without noticing the unconscious thinking patterns silently sabotaging his decision making.
Stepping away created something rare and valuable: space to observe himself clearly.
In this honest conversation, Rob shares how deep reflection, unfamiliar experiences and intentional time away from the business helped him recognise how his mind had been replaying old stories and how awareness alone began to change everything.
This episode is a must listen for any recruitment leader who feels stuck on the hamster wheel. It's about seeing the internal patterns that shape leadership and why self-awareness must come before real business change.
By the end of this episode, you'll understand why stepping back can be the most strategic move a recruitment leader makes for long-term success.
You'll learn:
Why unconscious thinking patterns influence leadership more than strategy.
How past experiences silently shape your reactions, decisions and behaviour.
Why awareness, not more hard work, is the first step to real change.
How stepping away from the business creates clarity you can't access in the day-to-day.
A simple grounding technique to interrupt overthinking, worry and CEO anxiety.
Why "inner work" has a lasting impact on both your leadership style and your life.
What makes transformational retreats different from traditional business coaching or leadership training.
Most recruitment business owners are focused on doing more - better systems, better plans, better execution. This conversation explores what happens when you focus instead on seeing more clearly.
If you've ever felt stuck in familiar patterns, mentally stretched or curious about what's really driving your leadership, this episode will resonate deeply.
Does your leadership feel like a constant uphill battle of effort over awareness? If this conversation sparked something - a nudge, a curiosity or a quiet knowing - trust it.
Email [email protected] if you'd like to learn more about Beyond Beliefs or the deeper work we do to help recruitment leaders reach the next level.
What happens when a recruitment agency founder billing a million dollars a year realises she's working 7am to 10pm every single day and nothing has actually changed? Andrea Rishmawi had built impressive revenue, but beneath the success, she was juggling everything herself, convinced that if she didn't control every outcome, things would fall apart. When the market heated up again in Q2 2025, she knew she was heading straight back into unsustainable territory. Then she made a choice that would shift everything: three days at the Beyond Beliefs retreat in Somerset. What followed wasn't just a break from the business, it was a complete rethinking of how she leads, decides, and trusts.
In this conversation recorded after the retreat, Andrea shares:
This episode offers a rare, honest look at what it takes to move from reactive management to intentional leadership. Andrea doesn't hold back about the 14-hour days, the constant juggling act, or the belief that she had to be superwoman to keep everything running. But she also reveals what changed when she stopped prescribing solutions to herself and started trusting what her body was telling her. If you've ever felt stuck doing the same things and expecting different results, or if you've wondered whether slowing down might actually help you grow faster, this conversation will resonate deeply. Listen now to hear Andrea's story and the single statement that became her guiding principle: "The medicine is inside you."
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If this conversation sparked something - a nudge, a curiosity or a quiet knowing - trust it…Email [email protected] if you'd like to learn more about Beyond Beliefs or the deeper work we do.
What happens when a recruitment agency founder billing a million dollars a year realises she's working 7am to 10pm every single day and nothing has actually changed? Andrea Rishmawi had built impressive revenue, but beneath the success, she was juggling everything herself, convinced that if she didn't control every outcome, things would fall apart. When the market heated up again in Q2 2025, she knew she was heading straight back into unsustainable territory. Then she made a choice that would shift everything: three days at the Beyond Beliefs retreat in Somerset. What followed wasn't just a break from the business, it was a complete rethinking of how she leads, decides, and trusts.
In this conversation recorded after the retreat, Andrea shares:
This episode offers a rare, honest look at what it takes to move from reactive management to intentional leadership. Andrea doesn't hold back about the 14-hour days, the constant juggling act, or the belief that she had to be superwoman to keep everything running. But she also reveals what changed when she stopped prescribing solutions to herself and started trusting what her body was telling her. If you've ever felt stuck doing the same things and expecting different results, or if you've wondered whether slowing down might actually help you grow faster, this conversation will resonate deeply. Listen now to hear Andrea's story and the single statement that became her guiding principle: "The medicine is inside you."
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If this conversation sparked something - a nudge, a curiosity or a quiet knowing - trust it…Email [email protected] if you'd like to learn more about Beyond Beliefs or the deeper work we do.
Is your recruitment business stuck in the cycle of feast or famine? Tired of the grind of cold calling 80+ prospects just to land a single vacancy? In this power-packed episode, Jane Pettit reveals why you're making business development harder than it needs to be… and exactly how to fix it.
Say goodbye to the cold calling burnout that defined recruitment in the Yellow Pages era. Jane shares her proven framework for growing your agency in 2026 through warmer, more effective strategies that won't leave you exhausted.
In this episode, you'll discover:
Jane gets brutally honest about the psychological and operational barriers that keep recruitment CEOs stuck in reactive mode and provides actionable strategies to overcome each one. From reframing your mindset ("you're helping, not selling") to protecting your BD time like a client meeting, this episode is your roadmap to sustainable growth.
The Bottom Line: ABC no longer means "Always Be Closing." In 2026, it means "Always Be Connecting." Your network is your goldmine. It's time to work it strategically.
Ready to build a healthy pipeline and drive your business instead of letting it drive you? This episode is your wake-up call.
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Ready to Scale Your Recruitment Business to 7 Figures (and beyond)?
Take the first step toward predictable growth with our FREE RESOURCES designed to support recruitment and executive search business owners in building profitable, scalable businesses.
Watch Our Free Training: Discover a proven system that can help your team achieve 5, 10, or even 20 extra placements per month, consistently and reliably. Learn how to Attract, Convert, and Deliver high-quality placements over the next 30 days – watch here https://learn.centredexcellence.co.uk/vsl-youtube61658857
Join Our Recruitment Business Accelerator Community: Connect with like-minded Recruitment and Executive Search Business Owners in our exclusive Facebook group. Elevate your skills, gain insights, and learn what it takes to build a 7+ figure recruitment business. Join Here - https://www.facebook.com/groups/526435818123500
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Want to See How This Could Work for You?
Let's chat! Apply for a free consultation to see if and how our strategies can work for your recruitment or executive search business. Provide us with some details about your business, and let's explore how you can achieve sustainable growth. Apply here - https://profitaccelerator.centredexcellence.co.uk/apply?utm_source=podcast
Feeling the fatigue as we hurtle toward the end of 2025? You're not alone. In this solo episode, Jane Pettitt tackles one of the biggest challenges facing recruitment business owners right now: the dreaded year-end slump.
With over half the workforce reporting burnout as the holiday season approaches, Jane cuts through the noise to deliver practical, actionable strategies that will help you finish the year strong, not just finished.
In this episode, you'll discover:
The real cost of burnout and why it's not just a personal struggle but a business-threatening issue that impacts productivity, decision-making, and team morale
Powerful mindset shifts to help you move from panic to purpose, including how to reframe what "finishing strong" actually means
The delegation revolution: Why trying to do everything yourself is killing your momentum and how to empower your team to step up in these final weeks
Energy management over time management: Practical tips for protecting your peak performance hours and why self-care isn't selfish, it's strategic leadership
The quick wins strategy: How to identify 1-3 achievable goals that will energize your team and create momentum heading into 2026
Jane draws from her own experiences and recent client work to share real-world examples of recruitment leaders who've transformed exhaustion into momentum. She challenges the old "work hard, play hard" mentality and offers a fresh perspective on building a sustainable, high-performing recruitment business.
Whether you're leading a small team or flying solo, this episode is your roadmap to ending 2025 with pride, purpose, and a clear vision for the year ahead. Because the goal isn't just to survive December, it's to thrive through it and launch into 2026 ready to rock, not in recovery mode. Tune in now!
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Ready to Scale Your Recruitment Business to 7 Figures (and beyond)?
Take the first step toward predictable growth with our FREE RESOURCES designed to support recruitment and executive search business owners in building profitable, scalable businesses.
Watch Our Free Training: Discover a proven system that can help your team achieve 5, 10, or even 20 extra placements per month, consistently and reliably. Learn how to Attract, Convert, and Deliver high-quality placements over the next 30 days – watch here https://learn.centredexcellence.co.uk/vsl-youtube61658857
Join Our Recruitment Business Accelerator Community: Connect with like-minded Recruitment and Executive Search Business Owners in our exclusive Facebook group. Elevate your skills, gain insights, and learn what it takes to build a 7+ figure recruitment business. Join Here - https://www.facebook.com/groups/526435818123500
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Want to See How This Could Work for You?
Let's chat! Apply for a free consultation to see if and how our strategies can work for your recruitment or executive search business. Provide us with some details about your business, and let's explore how you can achieve sustainable growth. Apply here - https://profitaccelerator.centredexcellence.co.uk/apply?utm_source=podcast
What happens when you know how to find great candidates but have no idea how to run a recruitment agency? Sofia found herself in exactly this position when she decided to shift from client-side HR and recruitment into building her own business in the aesthetics and wellness industry. With years of experience finding talent but zero agency structure to lean on, she faced a challenge that many recruiters can relate to: knowing your craft but struggling to translate that into consistent business growth. Her biggest hurdle wasn't recruitment itself; it was business development, presenting her value, and taking control of client relationships instead of letting clients steer the conversation.
Before joining the Rockit coaching programme, Sofia was placing just half to one candidate per month, relying almost entirely on referrals. She knew she brought value but couldn't articulate it effectively. Discussions about exclusivity and retainers felt uncomfortable, and she often found herself following the client's lead rather than positioning herself as the expert. Six months later, everything changed. Sofia transformed her business to consistently place two to three candidates monthly, built a structured approach to LinkedIn outreach, and gained the confidence to own every client conversation from start to finish.
"If you don't invest in yourself, you're just not going to get very far." - Sofia Lund
In this episode, you will:
Sofia's story is proof that you don't need decades of agency experience to build a thriving recruitment business. You need the right structure, support, and willingness to invest in yourself. Whether you're transitioning from client-side recruitment, struggling with business development, or simply want to scale beyond your current placement numbers, this conversation offers practical strategies and honest insights you can apply immediately.
Tune in to hear how Sofia doubled her placements in six months and discover the systems she used to take back control of her recruitment business.
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Ready to Scale Your Recruitment Business to 7 Figures (and beyond)?
Take the first step toward predictable growth with our FREE RESOURCES designed to support recruitment and executive search business owners in building profitable, scalable businesses.
Watch Our Free Training: Discover a proven system that can help your team achieve 5, 10, or even 20 extra placements per month, consistently and reliably. Learn how to Attract, Convert, and Deliver high-quality placements over the next 30 days – watch here https://learn.centredexcellence.co.uk/vsl-youtube61658857
Join Our Recruitment Business Accelerator Community: Connect with like-minded Recruitment and Executive Search Business Owners in our exclusive Facebook group. Elevate your skills, gain insights, and learn what it takes to build a 7+ figure recruitment business. Join Here - https://www.facebook.com/groups/526435818123500
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Want to See How This Could Work for You?
Let's chat! Apply for a free consultation to see if and how our strategies can work for your recruitment or executive search business. Provide us with some details about your business, and let's explore how you can achieve sustainable growth. Apply here - https://profitaccelerator.centredexcellence.co.uk/apply?utm_source=podcast
You've got an underperformer on your team. They're missing targets, the rest of your people are watching, and you're losing sleep over it. Do you coach them through it or let them go? Make the wrong call and it could cost you six figures. One recruitment business owner discovered this the hard way when keeping someone for 11 months cost them £140K in lost revenue, £35K in salary, and nearly their top biller. Yet the opposite mistake is just as expensive: fire too quickly and you might lose someone who just needed the right support. Jane knows this firsthand. She was once ranked 250th out of 250 consultants, making 80-90 cold calls daily but placing nothing for six months, before the right coaching conversation turned her into a top-five performer within a year.
In this episode, Katy and Jane break down the exact framework that helps you make this decision with confidence instead of agonising in that expensive no man's land. They reveal the critical difference between "can't do it" and "won't do it" and why confusing the two will drain your bank account and frustrate your best people. You'll hear the honest truth about why recruitment business owners struggle with this decision (hint: we want to be nice, and we're supposed to be good at hiring), and the specific patterns that tell you whether someone needs more time or needs to go.
In This Episode:
Ready to stop second-guessing yourself? Listen now to get the free Cut vs Coach decision framework, complete with diagnostic checklists and conversation scripts that will save you months of stress and thousands in revenue. Whether you're currently avoiding a difficult decision or want to prevent this situation altogether, this episode gives you the clarity to act with confidence.
Download the Can't vs. Won't Framework here: https://resources.centredexcellence.co.uk/cut-or-coach-podcast
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Ready to Scale Your Recruitment Business to 7 Figures (and beyond)?
Take the first step toward predictable growth with our FREE RESOURCES designed to support recruitment and executive search business owners in building profitable, scalable businesses.
Watch Our Free Training: Discover a proven system that can help your team achieve 5, 10, or even 20 extra placements per month, consistently and reliably. Learn how to Attract, Convert, and Deliver high-quality placements over the next 30 days – watch here https://learn.centredexcellence.co.uk/vsl-youtube61658857
Join Our Recruitment Business Accelerator Community: Connect with like-minded Recruitment and Executive Search Business Owners in our exclusive Facebook group. Elevate your skills, gain insights, and learn what it takes to build a 7+ figure recruitment business. Join Here - https://www.facebook.com/groups/526435818123500
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Want to See How This Could Work for You?
Let's chat! Apply for a free consultation to see if and how our strategies can work for your recruitment or executive search business. Provide us with some details about your business, and let's explore how you can achieve sustainable growth. Apply here - https://profitaccelerator.centredexcellence.co.uk/apply?utm_source=podcast
What happens when a recruitment agency founder admits he hates sales, spends his days buried in tasks that drain his energy, and relies on clients randomly knocking on the door? For Ivan Gasparetto, CEO of Techified, this was his reality for years. Running a specialist recruitment agency finding tech talent in Brazil for the AEC sector, Ivan had built a 13-year-old business that survived but never truly thrived. The turning point came when he recognised something had to change, and what followed was a transformation that saw his revenue quadruple in just six months. This isn't your typical growth story filled with empty promises; it's an honest account of what actually works when you stop trying to do everything yourself.
In this episode, you will:
• Discover the exact three task categories Ivan delegated that freed him to focus on what he does best and how this single shift unlocked 400% revenue growth
• Learn why "more means more" is a trap, and how narrowing focus to one specific niche became Ivan's "massive bonus" competitive advantage with clients
• Understand the mechanics of a client attraction machine that transforms "I hope someone calls" into predictable pipelines where you know exactly how many conversations and weeks each conversion requires
• Explore how someone who believed they were terrible at sales found techniques that fit their character and closed deals without changing who they are
• Hear why the group coaching sessions Ivan initially doubted became one of the most valuable parts of his growth journey and what he learned from other founders' challenges
Ready to stop being the "chief of everything" in your recruitment business?
Ivan's story proves that working smarter doesn't require personality transplants or 80-hour weeks. It requires systems, delegation, and the courage to let go of tasks that keep you busy but don't move the needle. Whether you're stuck in patchy client pipelines, drowning in administration, or convinced you'll never crack the sales code, this episode offers practical insights from someone who's been exactly where you are.
Tune in to discover how a specialist recruiter went from scattered operations to systematic growth and why the answer might be doing less, not more.
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Ready to Scale Your Recruitment Business to 7 Figures (and beyond)?
Take the first step toward predictable growth with our FREE RESOURCES designed to support recruitment and executive search business owners in building profitable, scalable businesses.
Watch Our Free Training: Discover a proven system that can help your team achieve 5, 10, or even 20 extra placements per month, consistently and reliably. Learn how to Attract, Convert, and Deliver high-quality placements over the next 30 days – watch here https://learn.centredexcellence.co.uk/vsl-youtube61658857
Join Our Recruitment Business Accelerator Community: Connect with like-minded Recruitment and Executive Search Business Owners in our exclusive Facebook group. Elevate your skills, gain insights, and learn what it takes to build a 7+ figure recruitment business. Join Here - https://www.facebook.com/groups/526435818123500
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Want to See How This Could Work for You?
Let's chat! Apply for a free consultation to see if and how our strategies can work for your recruitment or executive search business. Provide us with some details about your business, and let's explore how you can achieve sustainable growth. Apply here -
https://profitaccelerator.centredexcellence.co.uk/apply?utm_source=podcast
It's 9am and you've already handled a candidate no-show, fielded a client complaint, and squeezed in a "quick minute" with your top biller. By 5pm, your to-do list remains untouched, your team has left, and you're still at your desk wondering where the day went. Sound familiar? In this episode, Katy and Jane tackle the brutal reality of firefighting management and reveal why your best work shouldn't happen after everyone goes home. If you've ever cancelled a one-to-one because a client emergency came up, or found yourself muttering "it's just quicker if I do it myself," this conversation will hit close to home. Katy and Jane share the framework that helped one of their clients reclaim 26 hours per week—time that was being swallowed by tasks that should never have reached their desk.
In This Episode:
Ready to Stop Being the Bottleneck?
Whether you're the top biller who's also managing the team, or you're drowning in "quick questions" that steal your strategic thinking time, Katy and Jane offer practical systems you can start implementing this week. They're not talking about vague leadership principles—this is the real work of extracting yourself from every process, setting boundaries that stick, and building a team that solves 80% of problems without you.
Tune in to find out why your freedom as a business owner depends on making your team slightly uncomfortable, how to document the genius that's currently trapped in your head, and what to track for one week that will completely change how you see your time.
Listen now and take back control of your calendar.
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Ready to Scale Your Recruitment Business to 7 Figures (and beyond)?
Take the first step toward predictable growth with our FREE RESOURCES designed to support recruitment and executive search business owners in building profitable, scalable businesses.
Watch Our Free Training: Discover a proven system that can help your team achieve 5, 10, or even 20 extra placements per month, consistently and reliably. Learn how to Attract, Convert, and Deliver high-quality placements over the next 30 days – watch here https://learn.centredexcellence.co.uk/vsl-youtube61658857
Join Our Recruitment Business Accelerator Community: Connect with like-minded Recruitment and Executive Search Business Owners in our exclusive Facebook group. Elevate your skills, gain insights, and learn what it takes to build a 7+ figure recruitment business. Join Here - https://www.facebook.com/groups/526435818123500
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Want to See How This Could Work for You?
Let's chat! Apply for a free consultation to see if and how our strategies can work for your recruitment or executive search business. Provide us with some details about your business, and let's explore how you can achieve sustainable growth. Apply here - https://profitaccelerator.centredexcellence.co.uk/apply?utm_source=podcast
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