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074 | 「一战再战」：告别宏大叙事，拥抱日常英雄 Beyond Grand Narratives, Toward Everyday Heroes
【聊了什么The What】
本期节目，我们与哲学家袁源、友台美轮美换主播Lokin一同过度解读了保罗·托马斯·安德森（Paul Thomas Anderson）很有嚼劲的新作《一战再战》。这部电影是让小杨“撇着嘴进去，真香着出来”的年度惊喜，也是袁源觉得十分“就这”的陈词滥调。我们从加缪的《反叛者》出发，探讨暴力革命的伦理困境：当“妇人之仁”成为罪行，对抽象理念的狂热是否必然以牺牲具体的人为代价？Perfidia是一个挑战观众道德底线的反英雄，还是一位被男性凝视和刻板印象所困的复杂女性？Perfidia式的、为“爽”而战的景观式革命的反面，是否是Sensei式的、根植于邻里互助的日常英雄主义？
For this episode, we invited philosopher Yuan Yuan and Lokin to join us in over-interpreting Paul Thomas Anderson’s chewy new film One Battle After Another. It’s a movie that some of us walked into with doubts and walked out of utterly charmed, while others find it to be a thoroughly “meh” bundle of clichés.
Starting from Camus’s The Rebel, we dig into the ethical dilemmas of revolutionary violence: when “womanly compassion” becomes a crime, does fervor for an abstract ideal inevitably demand the sacrifice of concrete human lives? Is Perfidia a boundary-pushing anti-hero who defies our moral expectations, or a complex woman trapped within male gaze and stereotype? And if Perfidia’s spectacle-driven, pleasure-forward revolution is one end of the spectrum, is its opposite the Sensei style—an everyday heroism grounded in neighborly mutual aid?
【时间轴 The When】
00:00 电影《一战再战》剧情速览和第一印象
10:23 为何将60年代的革命美学平移到2008年让人“不买账”？
22:34 暴力革命的道德思辨：电影中的革命行动是否满足“正义的目标”、“必要性”与“相称性”？
31:33 Perfidia是刻板印象还是反英雄？
54:12 Willa打破父辈创伤的循环了吗？
58:03 “非盈利蛇头”Sensei和日常的英雄主义
67:07 对白人至上主义的辛辣讽刺
78:47 结局：这也能大团圆
00:00 Quick plot recap of One Battle After Another and our initial reactions
10:23 Why does transplanting 1960s revolutionary aesthetics into 2008 feel so unconvincing?
22:34 Moral reasoning around violent revolution: do the film’s actions satisfy “just cause,” “necessity,” and “proportionality”?
31:33 Perfidia: sexualized or anti-hero?
54:12 Does Willa break the cycle of her parents’ trauma?
58:03 The “non-profit coyote” Sensei and the quiet heroism of the everyday
67:07 A sharp satire of white supremacism
78:47 The ending: …so this counts as a happy ending?
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【聊了什么The What】
本期节目，我们与哲学家袁源、友台美轮美换主播Lokin一同过度解读了保罗·托马斯·安德森（Paul Thomas Anderson）很有嚼劲的新作《一战再战》。这部电影是让小杨“撇着嘴进去，真香着出来”的年度惊喜，也是袁源觉得十分“就这”的陈词滥调。我们从加缪的《反叛者》出发，探讨暴力革命的伦理困境：当“妇人之仁”成为罪行，对抽象理念的狂热是否必然以牺牲具体的人为代价？Perfidia是一个挑战观众道德底线的反英雄，还是一位被男性凝视和刻板印象所困的复杂女性？Perfidia式的、为“爽”而战的景观式革命的反面，是否是Sensei式的、根植于邻里互助的日常英雄主义？
For this episode, we invited philosopher Yuan Yuan and Lokin to join us in over-interpreting Paul Thomas Anderson’s chewy new film One Battle After Another. It’s a movie that some of us walked into with doubts and walked out of utterly charmed, while others find it to be a thoroughly “meh” bundle of clichés.
Starting from Camus’s The Rebel, we dig into the ethical dilemmas of revolutionary violence: when “womanly compassion” becomes a crime, does fervor for an abstract ideal inevitably demand the sacrifice of concrete human lives? Is Perfidia a boundary-pushing anti-hero who defies our moral expectations, or a complex woman trapped within male gaze and stereotype? And if Perfidia’s spectacle-driven, pleasure-forward revolution is one end of the spectrum, is its opposite the Sensei style—an everyday heroism grounded in neighborly mutual aid?
【时间轴 The When】
00:00 电影《一战再战》剧情速览和第一印象
10:23 为何将60年代的革命美学平移到2008年让人“不买账”？
22:34 暴力革命的道德思辨：电影中的革命行动是否满足“正义的目标”、“必要性”与“相称性”？
31:33 Perfidia是刻板印象还是反英雄？
54:12 Willa打破父辈创伤的循环了吗？
58:03 “非盈利蛇头”Sensei和日常的英雄主义
67:07 对白人至上主义的辛辣讽刺
78:47 结局：这也能大团圆
00:00 Quick plot recap of One Battle After Another and our initial reactions
10:23 Why does transplanting 1960s revolutionary aesthetics into 2008 feel so unconvincing?
22:34 Moral reasoning around violent revolution: do the film’s actions satisfy “just cause,” “necessity,” and “proportionality”?
31:33 Perfidia: sexualized or anti-hero?
54:12 Does Willa break the cycle of her parents’ trauma?
58:03 The “non-profit coyote” Sensei and the quiet heroism of the everyday
67:07 A sharp satire of white supremacism
78:47 The ending: …so this counts as a happy ending?
【拓展链接 The Links】
【买咖啡 Please Support Us】
如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡：
If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following:
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