
Sign up to save your podcasts
Or


In this episode, Neil and Eric unpack how speed, brand, and switching costs form modern startup moats in an era where insights depreciate fast. Drawing from Garry Tan’s “moat is a verb” concept and real-world case studies, they explain how execution speed compounds advantage, why AI shifts moat dynamics, and how founders can turn speed into durable defensibility through process power, brand, and network effects.
Key takeaways
 • Speed is a moat when insights fade fast
 • Brand and switching costs still compound
 • Execution speed amplifies defensibility
TIMESTAMPS
 (00:00) Moats explained and Buffett context
 (01:50) Depreciating insights in AI
 (04:55) Brand moat debate and switching costs
 (07:20) Microsoft Teams case study
 (16:56) Global expansion lessons and wrap
𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟
 Welcome to Marketing School, one of the top business podcasts with over 61 million downloads. Each episode delivers actionable marketing tips and strategies from two entrepreneurs who truly practice what they preach. The show is hosted by Eric Siu, founder of Leveling Up and Single Grain, and Neil Patel, co-founder of Neil Patel Digital and recognized by Forbes as a Top 10 Marketer.
LEARN MORE ABOUT THE HOSTS
 Eric Siu – Leveling Up: https://www.youtube.com/@LevelingUpOfficial
 Neil Patel: https://www.youtube.com/@neilpatel
FREE RESOURCES
 Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe
 Ubersuggest: https://www.ubersuggest.com/
 Answer The Public: https://www.answerthepublic.com/
By Eric Siu and Neil Patel4.6
12361,236 ratings
In this episode, Neil and Eric unpack how speed, brand, and switching costs form modern startup moats in an era where insights depreciate fast. Drawing from Garry Tan’s “moat is a verb” concept and real-world case studies, they explain how execution speed compounds advantage, why AI shifts moat dynamics, and how founders can turn speed into durable defensibility through process power, brand, and network effects.
Key takeaways
 • Speed is a moat when insights fade fast
 • Brand and switching costs still compound
 • Execution speed amplifies defensibility
TIMESTAMPS
 (00:00) Moats explained and Buffett context
 (01:50) Depreciating insights in AI
 (04:55) Brand moat debate and switching costs
 (07:20) Microsoft Teams case study
 (16:56) Global expansion lessons and wrap
𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟
 Welcome to Marketing School, one of the top business podcasts with over 61 million downloads. Each episode delivers actionable marketing tips and strategies from two entrepreneurs who truly practice what they preach. The show is hosted by Eric Siu, founder of Leveling Up and Single Grain, and Neil Patel, co-founder of Neil Patel Digital and recognized by Forbes as a Top 10 Marketer.
LEARN MORE ABOUT THE HOSTS
 Eric Siu – Leveling Up: https://www.youtube.com/@LevelingUpOfficial
 Neil Patel: https://www.youtube.com/@neilpatel
FREE RESOURCES
 Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe
 Ubersuggest: https://www.ubersuggest.com/
 Answer The Public: https://www.answerthepublic.com/

3,453 Listeners

2,787 Listeners

16,822 Listeners

1,438 Listeners

4,593 Listeners

1,582 Listeners

114 Listeners

703 Listeners

827 Listeners

12,064 Listeners

4,429 Listeners

86 Listeners

2,578 Listeners

967 Listeners

1,364 Listeners

332 Listeners

347 Listeners

1,122 Listeners

2,647 Listeners

575 Listeners

5,848 Listeners

153 Listeners

131 Listeners

6,388 Listeners

292 Listeners

45 Listeners

202 Listeners

355 Listeners

84 Listeners

316 Listeners

13 Listeners