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ChatGPT vs Gemini: who’s really winning the AI race? In this episode, we break down Google Trends data, why Gemini’s “Nano Banana” launch spiked usage, and why Google’s massive distribution still gets held back by weak product marketing. We compare launch playbooks (Google vs OpenAI vs Apple), dig into a new study showing only 62% overlap between Google rankings and ChatGPT visibility, and share how marketers should think about AI adoption: know enough to be dangerous, then hire specialists. Plus, a quick detour on iPhone choices, phone hygiene, and Steve Wozniak’s take on happiness vs wealth.
Key takeaways
Gemini’s surge shows distribution + a great model matters—but consistent, Apple-style product marketing is the missing piece.
SEO ≠ “GEO”: only ~62% overlap between Google rankings and ChatGPT visibility; 95% of ChatGPT users still visit Google, but only 14% of Google users visit ChatGPT.
For operators: play enough with new AI tools to scope opportunities, then hire experts to build agentic workflows and ship.
TIMESTAMPS
(00:00) ChatGPT vs Gemini Showdown
(00:42) Gemini Spike: The “Nano Banana” Effect
(01:35) Can Google Win the AI War?
(02:20) Google's Messaging Flaw Exposed
(03:05) Apple’s One-Message Launch Strategy
(03:55) iPhone Chat: Air vs Pro Battery Showdown
(05:55) Phone Hygiene: Wipes vs UV, ChatGPT Verdict
(07:15) Steve Wozniak on Happiness vs Wealth
(08:35) Money, Love & the “Enough” Mindset
(10:10) Relational Wealth by Life Stage
(12:15) Family Views on Work, Stress & Balance
(15:00) SEO ≠ GEO: 62% Overlap Explained
(16:30) OpenAI Hype vs Google Features
(17:25) Why Google Struggles With Product Marketing
(18:10) AI Tool Depth: Strategy for Busy Leaders
𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟
Welcome to Marketing School, a top business podcast with 61 million downloads!
Each episode features marketing tips and strategies from entrepreneurs who practice what they preach and live what they teach.
Hosted by:
Eric Siu (Founder of Leveling Up & Single Grain)
Neil Patel (Co-founder of Neil Patel Digital, named a Top 10 Marketer by Forbes)
👉 Learn more about the hosts:
Leveling Up with Eric Siu: https://www.youtube.com/@LevelingUpOfficial
Neil Patel: https://www.youtube.com/@neilpatel
Other Free Resources from Eric & Neil
Growth Newsletter for top marketers: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe
Ubersuggest: https://www.ubersuggest.com/
Answer The Public: https://www.answerthepublic.com/
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OTHER FREE RESOURCES FROM ERIC AND NEIL👇
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Ubersuggest: https://www.ubersuggest.com/
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Need marketing help? Visit: https://www.singlegrain.com/ and https://npdigital.com/
Want to recruit great marketers? Find them here: https://marketingschool.io/hire
ChatGPT vs Gemini: who’s really winning the AI race? In this episode, we break down Google Trends data, why Gemini’s “Nano Banana” launch spiked usage, and why Google’s massive distribution still gets held back by weak product marketing. We compare launch playbooks (Google vs OpenAI vs Apple), dig into a new study showing only 62% overlap between Google rankings and ChatGPT visibility, and share how marketers should think about AI adoption: know enough to be dangerous, then hire specialists. Plus, a quick detour on iPhone choices, phone hygiene, and Steve Wozniak’s take on happiness vs wealth.
Key takeaways
Gemini’s surge shows distribution + a great model matters—but consistent, Apple-style product marketing is the missing piece.
SEO ≠ “GEO”: only ~62% overlap between Google rankings and ChatGPT visibility; 95% of ChatGPT users still visit Google, but only 14% of Google users visit ChatGPT.
For operators: play enough with new AI tools to scope opportunities, then hire experts to build agentic workflows and ship.
TIMESTAMPS
(00:00) ChatGPT vs Gemini Showdown
(00:42) Gemini Spike: The “Nano Banana” Effect
(01:35) Can Google Win the AI War?
(02:20) Google's Messaging Flaw Exposed
(03:05) Apple’s One-Message Launch Strategy
(03:55) iPhone Chat: Air vs Pro Battery Showdown
(05:55) Phone Hygiene: Wipes vs UV, ChatGPT Verdict
(07:15) Steve Wozniak on Happiness vs Wealth
(08:35) Money, Love & the “Enough” Mindset
(10:10) Relational Wealth by Life Stage
(12:15) Family Views on Work, Stress & Balance
(15:00) SEO ≠ GEO: 62% Overlap Explained
(16:30) OpenAI Hype vs Google Features
(17:25) Why Google Struggles With Product Marketing
(18:10) AI Tool Depth: Strategy for Busy Leaders
𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟
Welcome to Marketing School, a top business podcast with 61 million downloads!
Each episode features marketing tips and strategies from entrepreneurs who practice what they preach and live what they teach.
Hosted by:
Eric Siu (Founder of Leveling Up & Single Grain)
Neil Patel (Co-founder of Neil Patel Digital, named a Top 10 Marketer by Forbes)
👉 Learn more about the hosts:
Leveling Up with Eric Siu: https://www.youtube.com/@LevelingUpOfficial
Neil Patel: https://www.youtube.com/@neilpatel
Other Free Resources from Eric & Neil
Growth Newsletter for top marketers: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe
Ubersuggest: https://www.ubersuggest.com/
Answer The Public: https://www.answerthepublic.com/
✅ Don’t forget to SUBSCRIBE for daily marketing insights!
OTHER FREE RESOURCES FROM ERIC AND NEIL👇
Growth Newsletter for top marketers: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe
Ubersuggest: https://www.ubersuggest.com/
Answer The Public: https://www.answerthepublic.com/
DON'T FORGET TO SUBSCRIBE :)
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