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June 29 Google CEO: Learn AI Agents Now Or Spend 2027 Playing Catch-Up
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Neil and Eric open by dissecting LVMH's 16 straight quarters of decelerating growth, arguing the COVID spike distorts the story and that 172-year-old brand power, not a handbag, is what makes luxury houses durable. They break down Sundar Pichai's warning that anyone who skips learning to orchestrate AI agents today will spend 2027 playing catch-up, then dig into Google actively building AI spam defenders to keep generative slop out of AI Overviews. Eric closes on Eli Schwartz's viral post that reduces all of AEO to three plain words: be unique, be helpful, be agent-ready. A sharp episode on brand moats, the compounding AI agent gap, and the only SEO play with a real shelf life.
Key takeaways
◾ Brand power compounds over centuries, not quarters — LVMH's dip looks worse than it is once you strip out the COVID bump
◾ The AI agent gap compounds every day — start orchestrating agents now or risk never catching up by 2027
◾ Every AEO tactic built to game the algorithm has a shelf life — the only durable play is "be unique, be helpful, be agent-ready"
Chapters
0:00 LVMH's 16 quarters of decline
4:41 Sundar Pichai: learn agents now
6:51 Does AI volume drive revenue?
8:34 Google's AI spam defenders
12:23 Eli Schwartz's 3 AEO pillars
𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟
Welcome to Marketing School, one of the top business podcasts with over 61 million downloads. Each episode delivers actionable marketing tips and strategies from two entrepreneurs who truly practice what they preach. The show is hosted by Eric Siu, founder of Leveling Up and Single Grain, and Neil Patel, co-founder of Neil Patel Digital and recognized by Forbes as a Top 10 Marketer.
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20 min
June 25 Nobody Is Prompting AI Anymore (Here's What Replaced It)
"No one's prompting anymore. Everyone just uses loops." That one line from Matt Van Horn kicked off a 3.4M-view firestorm, so Eric Siu sat him down to explain what he actually meant.

Chapters
00:00 "Nobody's prompting anymore" — and who Matt Van Horn is
03:00 What a loop actually is
04:57 The AI "money printer" that made $0
06:05 Why the barrier to building anything just collapsed
08:30 How to point loops at your own business
10:50 Printing Press: hidden APIs + self-learning CLIs
18:00 Last 30 Days: the agentic search engine
23:04 Watch: the "Flight Goat" launch video (1.3M views, built with Hyperframes)
27:30 The "MVH skill" — one skill to automate everything
34:30 Agent Cookie: always-logged-in agents
41:00 Terminal apps & why CLI beats clicking
46:00 AI inequality & the cost advantage
47:00 The one move: start now, be the nerd

Connect with Matt Van Horn: @mvanhorn on X · printingpress.dev

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53 min
June 24 Your Business is Invisible to AI (How To Fix it)
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Neil Patel breaks down what's actually changed in e-commerce, and why the brands winning right now are the ones adapting to AI search before everyone else.
In this session, Neil shares the data behind the new buying behavior: why AI search (GEO) is quietly becoming the highest-converting channel he's ever measured, how shoppers now research and buy across ChatGPT, Reddit, Instagram, and Amazon, and the exact things you need to fix so AI agents actually recommend your products.
Chapters:
00:00 Intro: 25 years of marketing data
00:50 The new e-commerce landscape
03:45 Why buyers need multiple touchpoints
05:25 Buy now, pay later & economic uncertainty
07:30 How each generation shops and spends
09:35 Trust: the real conversion lever
10:50 AI search (GEO) is reshaping discovery
13:45 The invisible conversions you're missing
15:00 AI search: the highest-converting channel
16:15 Why people really buy on social
18:45 Social commerce habits by generation
20:50 Using influencers the right way
22:05 Applying AI to the customer journey
23:20 Why your offer beats your strategy
27:55 Prepare your products for AI agents
𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟
Welcome to Marketing School, one of the top business podcasts with over 61 million downloads. Each episode delivers actionable marketing tips and strategies from two entrepreneurs who truly practice what they preach. The show is hosted by Eric Siu, founder of Leveling Up and Single Grain, and Neil Patel, co-founder of Neil Patel Digital and recognized by Forbes as a Top 10 Marketer.
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Neil Patel: https://www.youtube.com/@neilpatel
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33 min
June 23 How I Run a Marketing Agency With 6 AI Agents
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Eric reveals how he's restructuring his entire company around AI agents, building what he calls a "single brain" that connects every tool and data source into one unified intelligence. He breaks down the four levels of AI adoption, why 91% of enterprises are failing at implementation, and how an org chart of specialist agents, fleet commanders, and closed loops lets one human operate like a 10x team member. Along the way he shares practical tactics: spinning up hundreds of ad creative variations, building cold email infrastructure, finding $500K in savings with a CFO agent, slashing token costs, and optimizing for the coming wave of agent-driven buying (B2A).

Key takeaways
◾A connected "single brain" beats isolated AI tools
◾One human plus five agents equals a 10x team member
◾Optimize for agents now, because they're the new buyers

Chapters
00:00 Implementing AI and the single brain concept
00:47 The four levels of AI adoption
02:28 Why only 9% of enterprises are scaling AI
04:27 What single brain actually looks like
05:31 Connecting your tools into one brain
06:14 The agent org chart explained
07:19 Designing for specialist agents
09:35 Giving every team member their own fleet
10:52 Do-it-yourself vs done-with-you
11:23 End-to-end workflows explained
12:03 Building loops and the org chart of the future
13:55 Compressing time with instant data
15:05 Combining agents for ad creative at scale
17:04 Prompt in, campaign out
18:46 The CFO agent that found $500K in savings
19:17 Driving token costs down
20:50 Agents are the new buyers (B2A)
22:00 Optimizing your software for agents
24:03 Three moves by Friday
26:18 Building leverage and staying ahead

𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟
Welcome to Marketing School, one of the top business podcasts with over 61 million downloads. Each episode delivers actionable marketing tips and strategies from two entrepreneurs who truly practice what they preach. The show is hosted by Eric Siu, founder of Leveling Up and Single Grain, and Neil Patel, co-founder of Neil Patel Digital and recognized by Forbes as a Top 10 Marketer.

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Eric Siu – Leveling Up: https://www.youtube.com/@LevelingUpOfficial
Neil Patel: https://www.youtube.com/@neilpatel

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31 min
June 22 AI Won't Save Your Marketing. This Will.
Everyone's pouring money into shiny AI marketing. Neil Patel and Eric Siu think most of it is a trap. Live from the Social Commerce Summit, they break down what AI will NEVER replace, the "boring and ugly" tactics still quietly printing money, and the moves you should actually be making instead.
In this episode:
- The "clipping economy" and why a 10-person podcast is on track for $30M
- Why boring, ugly fundamentals still beat the sexy AI use cases
- The email "make money button" that's made one marketer millions
- What AI can't take away: distribution, brand, strategy, community and the human touch
- How social commerce is quietly rewriting the org chart (armies of creators)
- Using AI to expand globally fast (and where the easy revenue actually is)
Chapters:
0:00 10 years of Marketing School, live on stage
0:35 The clipping economy (TBPN, $30M, OpenAI)
2:18 Why boring & ugly still beats shiny AI
4:54 What AI won't replace: distribution & brand
5:07 Stop building "AI theater" — automate what already works
7:02 Distribution & brand can't be taken from you
7:40 The email "make money button" (MarketBeat)
8:40 AI won't replace original strategy
9:54 Why AI keeps giving you the wrong answer
11:19 Community & events: the 18-year-old's bet
14:04 The human touch: customer success is going parabolic
17:52 When customers want a human, not AI
18:13 Social commerce is rewriting the org chart
19:47 Clipping + affiliates at scale
20:23 Founder-led content & high-leverage thinking
21:18 Use AI to expand globally, fast
23:51 Wrap up
Marketing School is the daily marketing podcast from Neil Patel and Eric Siu. New episodes break down the tactics, trends and tools moving marketing right now.
Subscribe for daily marketing tips from Neil & Eric.
#marketing #AImarketing #ecommerce #NeilPatel #EricSiu
34 min
June 19 AI Is Costing Companies More Than the Employees It Replaced
Neil Patel and Eric Siu go deep on what's actually changing in business right now: why trading ideas faster (not a bigger brain) is the real unfair advantage, how AI agents like Hermes and OpenClaw break when you overload them, and the hidden token bill that's quietly eating the savings companies expected from replacing headcount.
They also cover how to show up inside ChatGPT and AI search, where agencies still earn their fees, the comeback of Dell and on-prem AI infrastructure, and when reinventing (or even selling) a business is the highest-leverage move you can make.
Chapters
00:00 Why trading ideas (not bigger brains) drove human progress
16:26 7 ways to show up in LLMs and AI search
17:28 Where agencies still earn their fees in the AI era
33:56 Using AI agents (Hermes, OpenClaw, Picasso) without overloading them
49:41 The hidden token bill eating your AI savings
50:10 The comeback of Dell and on-prem AI infrastructure
1:05:09 Reinventing your business by mode: startup, growth, mature
1:05:34 When selling a dying business is the smart move
1:15:27 Alexa, Amazon ads and the new AI search land grab
1 hr 25 min
June 18 Tokenmaxxing is DEAD
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Eric and Neil break down why token maxxing is dead. Cognition is betting that AI should be priced on outcomes rather than token usage, with adaptive routing, spend attribution, and an AI productivity guarantee that funds your usage if Devin delivers less value than you pay for. They unpack the rise of the forward-deployed marketer, the most valuable hire in marketing that almost nobody is staffing for, why AI only matters when it moves real KPIs, and the one question that compounds your results over a decade: what is the highest-leverage thing I can do with my time today?
Key Takeaways:
• Token usage is a poor way to measure productivity. Price AI on business outcomes instead.
• The forward-deployed marketer owns the client outcome while agents do the labor, and it is the hire almost nobody is staffing for.
• Ask one question every day: what is the highest-leverage thing I can do with my time? Compound that for 10 years.
Chapters:
00:00 Token Maxxing Is Dead (Cognition)
02:17 The Forward-Deployed Marketer
04:06 AI Only Counts If It Moves KPIs
06:10 The Highest-Leverage Question
09:49 Reinventing A Dying Business
11:08 Neil's Brutal Travel Schedule
15:13 AI Fluency And The Wealth Gap
18:39 Search Is Going Conversational
21:26 Apple's Long Game On Hardware
23:15 The Steve Jobs NeXT Lesson
24:50 The AI Deception Eval
𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟
Welcome to Marketing School, one of the top business podcasts with over 61 million downloads. Each episode delivers actionable marketing tips and strategies from two entrepreneurs who truly practice what they preach. The show is hosted by Eric Siu, founder of Leveling Up and Single Grain, and Neil Patel, co-founder of Neil Patel Digital and recognized by Forbes as a Top 10 Marketer.
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30 min
June 17 The Best AI Tools for Marketing in 2026
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Eric and Neil rank the latest AI tools they've tested for marketing, from
autonomous agents like Hermes, OpenClaw, Codex, and Cloud Code to MCPs
from HeyGen, Riverside, and Beehiiv. They break down why overloading agents
makes them degrade fast, the real dollar value behind $200/month ChatGPT
Pro vs Claude Max subscriptions, and how token costs are quietly blowing up
company budgets. Plus the Anthropic IPO winners, smart token routing, and
why selling AI services feels completely different from selling agency work.

Key takeaways
◾Overloading AI agents makes them degrade fast
◾ChatGPT subsidizes far more value than Claude per dollar
◾Token costs are quietly wrecking company budgets

Chapters
00:00 Ranking the latest AI tools
01:30 Forking agents to build cold outbound
03:20 Where Hermes and OpenClaw fail
04:30 ChatGPT Pro vs Claude Max value
07:40 Favorite MCPs: HeyGen, Riverside, Beehiiv
09:50 Why Anthropic stays quiet on disruption
11:30 Anthropic IPO winners
14:30 Betting on the Spurs
17:30 Karrot personalized LinkedIn ads break
18:30 The real cost of Pro subscriptions
22:00 Token routing and rising AI costs

𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟
Welcome to Marketing School, one of the top business podcasts with over 61
million downloads. Each episode delivers actionable marketing tips and
strategies from two entrepreneurs who truly practice what they preach. The
show is hosted by Eric Siu, founder of Leveling Up and Single Grain, and Neil
Patel, co-founder of Neil Patel Digital and recognized by Forbes as a Top 10
Marketer.

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26 min
June 16 The Pricing Model of The Future?
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Neil and Eric dig into McKinsey shifting a quarter of its fees to outcome-based pricing and what that means for agencies built on billable hours. Then they run through seven AI marketing trends for 2026: hiring AI-pilled marketers, optimizing for agents instead of just LLMs, AI-built sites and landing pages, integrating directly into LLMs over chasing their traffic, the documentation boom, the backlash against using AI to market to AI, and why HTML artifacts are becoming the new way to package and share ideas.

Key takeaways
◾Outcome-based pricing is reshaping how agencies charge
◾Optimize for agents and integrations, not just LLM traffic
◾Using AI content to win inside LLMs will get discounted

Chapters
00:00 McKinsey goes outcome-based pricing
01:01 How outcome-based deals get structured
02:51 Quantum Black savings example
03:35 Why performance-based deals get renegotiated
04:53 Seven AI marketing trends for 2026
04:58 Trend 1: Hiring AI-pilled marketers
05:45 Trend 2: Optimizing for agents
07:57 ClickFlow AI SEO break
08:36 Trend 3: AI-built sites and landing pages
10:07 Trend 4: Integrating directly into LLMs
11:35 Trend 5: The documentation boom
12:32 Trend 6: Backlash against AI marketing to AI
14:15 Trend 7: HTML as a marketing trend

𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟
Welcome to Marketing School, one of the top business podcasts with over 61 million downloads. Each episode delivers actionable marketing tips and strategies from two entrepreneurs who truly practice what they preach. The show is hosted by Eric Siu, founder of Leveling Up and Single Grain, and Neil Patel, co-founder of Neil Patel Digital and recognized by Forbes as a Top 10 Marketer.

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Eric Siu – Leveling Up: https://www.youtube.com/@LevelingUpOfficial
Neil Patel: https://www.youtube.com/@neilpatel

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19 min
June 15 Your Brain Hasn't Changed in 190,000 Years
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Neil and Eric open with a fascinating look at how human progress accelerated 50,000 years ago — not because our brains got bigger, but because we started trading ideas.

Key Takeaways
◾ Intelligence is a network property — the more ideas you trade, the smarter and faster you move
◾ 68% of Google searches now result in zero clicks, making brand citation the new ranking goal
◾ Seven AEO/SEO tactics still drive results: brand mentions, structured data, fresh content, longtail queries, third-party reviews, direct answers, and omnichannel

Chapters
00:00 Human brains haven't changed in 200,000 years
02:30 Trading ideas as the engine of progress
05:10 AI accelerating idea exchange
07:20 Isolation regresses intelligence
09:45 Gatekeeping information kills momentum
11:00 Anthropic calls for AI slowdown
13:15 Claude's Fable 5 model breakdown
16:00 Microsoft's 100K engineers cautionary tale
18:10 Google zero-click searches hit 68%
21:00 Being cited vs. ranking — the new SEO goal
23:30 Fan-out queries and why SEO still matters
26:00 7 AEO and SEO tactics that work now
26:15 Tactic 1: Backlink gap for brand mentions
27:30 Tactic 2: Robust structured data
28:20 Tactic 3: Update top content frequently
29:30 Tactic 4: Target conversational longtail queries
31:00 Tactic 5: Third-party reviews and sentiment
32:30 Tactic 6: Lead with direct answers
33:30 Tactic 7: Go omnichannel

𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟
Welcome to Marketing School, one of the top business podcasts with over 61 million downloads. Each episode delivers actionable marketing tips and strategies from two entrepreneurs who truly practice what they preach. The show is hosted by Eric Siu, founder of Leveling Up and Single Grain, and Neil Patel, co-founder of Neil Patel Digital and recognized by Forbes as a Top 10 Marketer.

🎙️ Learn More About the Hosts
Eric Siu – Leveling Up: https://www.youtube.com/@LevelingUpOfficial
Neil Patel: https://www.youtube.com/@neilpatel

📩 Free Resources
Ubersuggest: https://www.ubersuggest.com/
Answer The Public: https://www.answerthepublic.com/

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21 min

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Neil Patel and Eric Siu bring you daily ACTIONABLE digital marketing lessons that they've learned through years of being in the trenches. Whether you have a new website or you're an established business, you'll learn the latest SEO, content marketing, social media, email marketing, conversion optimization and general online marketing strategies that work today from people that actually practice marketing and operate business. Approaching 100M downloads with 2,500+ episodes, you're sure to find something that will help you grow faster. Also don't forget to subscribe to our Marketing School Youtube channel to get more marketing goodness.