Lisa has an illuminating conversation with group alum Kate about her year “out of the cave,” and the parallels between her relationship with emotional eating and her relationship to alcohol.

Topics Include:

[5:30] Kate talks about the lesson of starting before you’re “ready” and meeting yourself where you’re at

[10:30] Why we still have “diet thoughts”

[13:00] A nuanced look at Whole30 and can we take elements of diets out of love for ourselves?

[15:40] The distinction between feeling uncomfortable and feeling unsafe

[24:23] Seeing yourself and your relationship to food and eating as an experiment and not a practice in perfection

[28:00] Kate describes uncovering the link between her father’s alcoholism and her own relationship with food

[38:15] What is the “end goal” of healing our relationship to food and eating? Do we get to a point where no matter what food is in our home that we feel neutral about it?

[56:00] What is addiction when it comes to food?

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Lisa explains the mental, emotional, and physical hardships she faced when prioritizing weight over health and the  holistic healing that ensued when the reverse became true.

Topics Include:

[2:40] Holistic health defined

[5:15] Why/how Lisa was the most unhappy and unhealthy more than ever before at the end of her 150 pound weight loss

[27:58] How disconnecting the mind-body connection is great for rapid weight loss and terrible for all the other parts of us

[30:00] Hedonic vs Homeostatic Hunger

[32:46] Lisa recalls the details of the video tape of fear her mind played while she was obsessed with counting, numbers, calories in and calories and out, and how that felt so linked to safety and survival

[39:46] Lisa’s “pie-chart” explanation of holistic health and how physical health is 1/6th of your overall well-being

[43:25] What your BMI does and does not tell you

[50:00] Thinking you must focus on your weight to be healthy is a limiting belief

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Resource(s):

Health at Every Size: https://haescommunity.com/

Lisa talks with Heather Fleming, CEO and Founder of Conscious Nutrition.

Topics Include:

[8:36] Lisa and Heather recall Lisa’s time as Heather’s client and the approach she took to help Lisa heal her IBS, by integrating a right and left brain, mind-body approach.

[11:36] Heather explains her struggles after eating she had all throughout childhood, and how she went from being a business major to a clinical nutritionist, then finding a whole new approach in holistic nutrition

[16:50] Heather details how she went from a very clinical place, driven by shame and guilt, to an integrative approach  fueled by curiosity, gentleness, and playfulness

[24:40] Heather explains how she went from a “don’t eat sugar” nutritionist, to someone who looked at a person’s inner child, their fear, their inner people pleaser, and all the places we make decisions from to approach nutrition without shame

[32:00] Asking, “What else is going on,” when it comes to fear around food, and being curious about what parts of yourself you may be rejecting, resisting, or not accepting

[43:00] Noticing when you’re in a ping-pong match with yourself, aka in the physiology of fear

[50:00] Heather gives advice to those just starting to experiment with trusting and feeling their way into a new relationship around food and eating

[57:05] Being distracted from an old pain story

[1:08:00] What a taste of trusting yourself feels like

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Free 5 Day Ease In https://consciousnutrition.com/free-ease-in/ref/406/ 

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Resource(s):

Whole Brain Living by Jill Bolte

Stroke of Insight Ted Talk https://www.ted.com/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_my_stroke_of_insight?language=en

Lisa is a guest on the Inner Peace Podcast with AM, where she and Alison Midollo discuss feelings, beliefs, the mind-body connection, and true belonging.

Topics Include:

[4:40] Lisa describes her favorite forms of self-care she is using lately.

[9:56] Lisa explains her business, “Out of the Cave,” where she helps people heal their relationships with weight, weight loss, and their relationship to food and eating and how losing 150 pounds led her to where she is today

[11:46] Lisa details the most rewarding parts of her work, leading people on their healing journeys around emotional eating

[16:41] Lisa defines emotion in terms of our right and left brain.

[28:21] Distinguishing between feelings and beliefs

[35:21] Emotions and our primal “animal brain”

[44:06] The issue with finding safety externally

[51:26] Lisa describes themes and trends she’s experienced in her work with her clients as of late

[1:14:36] Lisa explains how she finds inner peace

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Lisa is joined by Out of the Cave Group Coaching alum, Estelle, to talk about how learning to sit in discomfort and relearning how to trust yourself and your body allows you to take control of your life and own your innate power and wisdom.

Topics Include:

[2:43] Estelle recalls the parts of her childhood when her relationship to food, eating, and body image became stressful

[5:05] Estelle talks about how comparing herself to her friends and feeling a deep desire to be loved led her to extreme dieting and disordered eating behaviors and Lisa begins to point out how our painful relationship to food and body start way before the most damaging behaviors begin

[9:00] Estelle talks about “little t,” and “big T,” traumas in her childhood home and how she found emotional eating at such a young age and how that spiraled a few years later into laxative abuse, binging, purging, and diet pills,

[11:53] After 6 months hospitalized for an eating disorder, Estelle explains how she really learned nothing because the root of the issue was never addressed

[12:16] Estelle finds personal development and her understanding of herself and the human experience bursts wide open and how we don’t have “get rid” of any feelings

[17:22] Estelle explains why she was attracted to Lisa’s approach and how Lisa does not focus on the food, or the body, or the outside, and empowers her clients to trust themselves

[21:00] Lisa talks about what changes when you’re able to sit in discomfort and remind yourself that you are not unsafe and Estelle responds by explaining how scary sitting with feelings can be so difficult some of us would rather risk our lives with drugs, or disordered eating behaviors, chronic emotional eating, or literally dying rather than sit with how we feel inside

[27:00] How diet culture disconnects us from self and how true connection to self and others makes us feel full

[31:51] Lisa explains how Estelle’s experience of “feeling like she’s going to die,” when it comes to discomfort makes sense when we understand the brain science

[38:00] We don’t need advice or panic, we need to give ourselves permission to let feelings “kill us”

[43:00] Taking radical responsibility for yourself, your thoughts, and your healing

[53:20] Estelle talks about how she experienced some emotional eating during quarantine after completing group coaching and how it was much different than before because of profound self-love

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We have all attempted to change how we feel and think about food and our bodies and continuously wind up in a yo-yo type cycle. In this episode Lisa discusses what we have to change about our approach in order to truly achieve a true, deep and profound lifestyle change.

Topics Include:

[2:30] What spirituality has to do with all of this, regardless of how you identify on the spirituality spectrum, how are we in relationship the thinking, feeling, the connected, loving being inside of us

[6:30] Swinging “the pendulum” of food and eating to overeating, mindless eating, feeling out of control around food to being restrictive, counting, weight points, etc vs being still in mindfulness, aware of our emotions and stressors

[13:19] What it means to be in alignment with yourself

[16:30] Becoming a conscious observer of your thoughts, feelings, and behaviors

[21:00] Homeostatic and hedonic hunger

[26:45] Getting back to your factory settings and being able to get your needs met appropriately

[30:10] Clues that hunger is physical rather than emotional and vice versa

[33:20] How being hyper focused on weight can take us further from holistic health and defining what it means to be healthy, beyond physical health and health

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Lisa explains how we got where we are today with our relationship to food and eating from a cultural perspective and what we can do to begin to heal.

Topics Include:

[2:10] The power of observation, raising your consciousness, and unlearning

[5:15] Dr. Gabor Maté and the conflict between attachment and authenticity

[13:28] Our culture of skinny privilege, fatphobia, trending beauty ideals (cultural relativism), and the stigma around mental health issues

[17:28] The intersection of cultural identities and body size

[19:40] The impact of the diet industry and media on our struggles around food, body, and weight and the lack of conversation around holistic health

[20:58] The lack of mind-body health in the western medical and pharmaceutical industry

[21:30] Capitalism and our bodies

[23:00] All these cultural influences interact with our brain explain exactly how we got here with food, weight, eating, and our body image

[25:30] Choosing attachment rather than authenticity around food as children

[27:00] Asking yourself, “Is my desire for weight loss rooted in attachment or authenticity?” and the cost of perpetually choosing attachment

[29:20] The role of shame now that we are grown ups aka, “Shame has a shelf life”

[32:14] You are living the way you were designed to do so, where you are with food, eating, and your body image makes sense and now it’s time to unlearn and begin to choose authenticity

[34:25] What does it mean to say, “Life is a choice between what hurts and what hurts worse,” when it comes to food, eating, and our bodies?

[41:30] Giving up trying to heal our feelings through changing our bodies, beginning to think critically and see ourselves as holistic beings, and engaging in the full human experience

[45:15] The importance of attachment for survival and living authentically

[50:00] Remembering how to eat without a plan, or a diet, and learning to trust our own bodies again

[54:06] Lisa explains how she has been able to maintain her weight after her unhealthy weight loss

[58:08] Practical steps to integrate this information into your healing journey

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Resources:

Dr. Gabor Maté on Authenticity vs. Attachment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3bynimi8HQ