What would it sound like if someone hit record on a conversation between you and a close friend over a cup of coffee (or glass of wine or matcha or a margarita, depending on your preference)? I was recently in California and had the opportunity to actually sit side by side with my friend Candice Kumai, a classically trained chef, former line cook, former TV host, former-model-turned journalist, and now a podcaster herself and best-selling author of seven books. 

Listening back, it felt like someone had hit record on a heart to heart between two pals at transitional phases of their lives, and captured all the candid feelings and giggles and tears that come from a good, honest, vulnerable chat. Sitting in her beautiful Los Angeles home over a cup of a specialty matcha, we poured into each other on the topics of success, why women can be so hard on themselves, the struggle to see yourself through the eyes of people who love you, and so much more. Slide up a chair and join us at the table. 

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