Have you ever gotten exactly what you wanted, only to wait for something to go wrong? That's where Brenda is in today's episode — alcohol-free, feeling like herself again, and quietly afraid to believe it will last. In the second session, Emma has spent five years in a cycle she can't seem to break, and she finally gets a look at what's really underneath it. Two coaches, two guests, two conversations that go to some genuinely surprising places. 

Brenda discusses:

Why her alcohol freedom has felt "too easy" — and what that fear is really about

How knowledge and science shifted her desire, not just her behavior

The one-year and five-year visualization exercise that changed everything

Reframing past "failures" as data points that guided her to exactly where she is

Building self-trust day by day through The Path community

And more…

Emma discusses:

Her five-year cycle of months alcohol-free followed by weeks drinking again

Why alcohol gave her permission to feel emotions she couldn't access otherwise

Connecting with an emotional armor that formed in childhood to protect her

An IFS-style coaching exercise to meet the "bouncer at the gate" with curiosity

The moment her armor responded: "I've been so lonely"

And more…

Hayley Scherders is a certified TNM Coach with training from the Canadian Addiction and Mental Health Association. Drawing from personal experiences, Hayley understands how tough change can be and provides a safe, compassionate, and judgment-free space where her clients can feel supported. She believes that with the right mindset, anyone can change their life at any time.

Learn more about Coach Hayley: https://thisnakedmind.com/coach/hayley-scherders/

Cole Harvey is a certified Naked Mind Senior Coach. For years, he felt lost and used alcohol as a way to cope, until he decided to go alcohol-free and focus on finding his purpose. Through curiosity, self-compassion, and adventure, he transformed his life. As a habit change and mindset coach, Cole helps young men understand themselves, build better habits, and find meaning.

Learn more about Coach Cole: https://thisnakedmind.com/coach/cole-harvey/

Episode links: nakedmindpath.com

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