*Originally Posted: 3/18/17* Joined by Shaman Durek, the official Shaman of That's So Retrograde (b/c every Los Angeles-based podcast needs one), Elizabeth and Stephanie explore themes of life and death, and stepping into a place of receiving information in order to live your most loving and fulfilled life. It's a wild roller coaster of adventure and emotion and the girls are officially in love with the honesty and knowledge of Shamen D. They also Rose and Thorn about iTunes placement and vaping, because, why not?

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