As the result of a meet cute at SXSW, this week’s guest, Jacob Tobia, joins Stephanie and Elizabeth for a conversation about gender in today's expanding landscape! A writer, producer, author, activist and leader in the contemporary conversation on gender, they join the show to illuminate us on the rainbow that is gender identity. Later, It's all birthday roses and adulting over here, as Elizabeth slides into 33 and Steph tells a potential lover the truth♥️ This episode is brought to you by: The Official That’s So Retrograde Closed Facebook Group; search in Facebook to join / That’s So Retrograde at Four Moons Spa, May 19; thatssoretrograde.com/events

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