Let's Try This Again with B. Simone

Forgiveness vs. Healing with Dr. Anita Phillips


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This week on Let’s Try This Again, I’m your host B Simone, and I’m joined by the incredible Dr. Anita Phillips-a trauma therapist, powerhouse speaker, and someone whose wisdom has truly changed my life. In this episode, we get real about what healing actually looks like, and why forgiveness and healing are two separate journeys.


I open up about my own process: how forgiving someone doesn’t mean the pain is instantly gone-just like if someone broke your leg, you could forgive them right away, but your leg would still need time to heal. That analogy hit home for me, and I know so many of you can relate. Sometimes the hurt lingers long after we’ve chosen to let go, and that’s okay.


We also talk about the “mother wound,” and I share how hearing Dr. Anita break down this topic on the Woman Evolve stage brought me to tears. She explains how mother wounds aren’t just a women’s issue-they can affect anyone, and they run deep, sometimes all the way back to the original story of Adam and Eve. The way Dr. Anita brings grace to both mothers and daughters, and encourages us to have compassion for each other, is something I wish everyone could hear.


This episode gets personal. I even take a moment to publicly apologize to anyone who met me during a darker, more broken season of my life-because when you’re hurting, you show up differently, no matter how hard you try to hide it. Dr. Anita helps us understand how trauma impacts our nervous system, why we might feel stuck in “fight or flight,” and how true healing isn’t about quick hacks, but about daily practices: rest, nourishing your body, using your voice, and spending time in safe spaces.


We talk about practical steps-like setting boundaries, speaking up for yourself, and even how being in nature or near the ocean can help reset your nervous system. Dr. Anita shares that healing is a process, not a destination, and encourages us to look back a year from now to see how far we’ve come.


If you’ve ever struggled with anxiety, felt stuck in old pain, or wondered why healing takes so long, this episode is for you. It’s honest, motivating, and packed with wisdom you can use right now. Let’s keep growing, healing, and trying again-together.

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