In this episode, I sat down with the powerful and anointed Dr. Jay Barnett, and y’all… whew. This conversation went far beyond what I expected. We talked about healing, wholeness, calling, and obedience — the kind that breaks you down before it builds you back up. Dr. Jay shared how God told him to be quiet during one of the darkest public storms of his life, and how that silence became his greatest act of obedience. Hearing him say, “Obedience is best displayed when you don’t understand,” stopped me in my tracks.

We got real about relationships too — why being single in purpose is harder than being lonely, why you can’t pour from an empty cup, and how discernment saves your calling. He said something that shook me: “You can’t be a whale connected to a swimming pool.” That hit home. Because I’ve been there — trying to shrink to fit what wasn’t meant for me.

We also dove into what it means to move from healing to wholeness, how to protect your peace when you’re constantly pouring into others, and why it’s okay to let God be your companion while He’s preparing the right one. This episode reminded me that obedience, surrender, and alignment aren’t passive — they’re power moves.

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