What really happens behind closed doors when two iconic artists build a marriage, a family, and a creative life together?

In this intimate conversation, I sit down with Canadian musicians Raine Maida (Our Lady Peace) and Chantal Kreviazuk to talk about the real work of long-term love. We explore the story behind their documentary I’m Going to Break Your Heart, the “burnt chicken” moment that revealed deeper invisible labor dynamics, and how everyday micro-heartbreaks can either chip away at connection or strengthen intimacy.

We dive into maximizer/minimizer patterns, why conflict is inevitable in marriage, and how a simple pause can stop a spiral. You’ll hear how they use tools like CPR (Catch, Pause, Repair), eye-gazing, and intentional autonomy to stay connected through parenting, touring, hormonal shifts, and the evolving seasons of a decades-long relationship. We also unpack men’s resistance to therapy, reframing it as coaching, and why interdependence—not perfection—is the foundation of lasting partnership.

If you’ve ever felt alone in the messiness of marriage, this episode will help you feel seen, supported, and equipped to build a stronger, more resilient relationship. Tune in to hear the truth behind long-term love.

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Check out Raine and Chantal’s Substack: A Rock and Roll Love Story: https://raineandchantal.substack.com/

Raine and Chantal’s Documentary: I’m Going To Break Your Heart

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