In this episode of That's Where I'm At, host Laura sits down with Vanessa Kavulish, a business strategist, speaker, entrepreneur, and founder of VK Growth Consulting. Vanessa helps founders scale their businesses with clarity and alignment—without losing themselves in the process. Having advised and coached hundreds of entrepreneurs, and as the founder of Benefit Bar, an elevated eco-friendly event brand known for exceptional execution and unforgettable experiences, Vanessa brings both strategic expertise and lived insight into sustainable growth and authentic leadership.

In this empowering conversation, Vanessa shares her personal journey from seeking external validation to trusting her intuition, setting strong boundaries, and prioritizing self-respect. She and Laura explore the impact of societal conditioning, the importance of rest, and how relationships evolve as women step into their true selves. Vanessa also offers practical guidance on building confidence, strengthening self-trust, and growing both personally and professionally without sacrificing well-being. This episode is a powerful reminder that true success comes from alignment, authenticity, and honoring who you are becoming.

Key Topics & Timestamps

Content Warning (00:01:16) A brief warning about potentially triggering subjects in the episode.

Guest Introduction: Vanessa the Empowerment Coach (00:01:25) Laura introduces Vanessa, her background, and her work as an empowerment coach.

Vanessa's Journey: Overachieving & Seeking Validation (00:02:15) Vanessa shares her upbringing, need for external validation, and how it led to her career and eventual unhappiness.

Breaking Free from Others' Expectations (00:04:18) Discussion about filtering advice from well-meaning people and learning to trust your own path.

Weeding Out External Voices & Self-Trust (00:07:22) The process of identifying which internal voices are truly your own and learning self-trust.

Reframing Self-Validation & Self-Respect (00:08:02) Vanessa explains the importance of self-respect and treating yourself as your own best friend.

Vanessa's Epiphanies & Empowerment (00:09:25) Vanessa shares how self-trust led to empowerment, new opportunities, and the start of her coaching journey.

Coaching Focus: Women & Setting Boundaries (00:12:38) Vanessa explains her focus on coaching women and the importance of practicing saying no and setting boundaries.

Self-Reflection: Judging Others & Internal Beliefs (00:17:28) Vanessa discusses how our judgments of others reflect our own internal struggles with boundaries.

Learning Boundaries Through Experience (00:18:34) Laura shares her personal journey of discovering boundaries and the challenges of asserting them.

Levels of Boundaries: With Others & Self (00:20:15) Vanessa explains that boundaries exist on many levels, including with oneself, and shares her own experiences.

Rest, Burnout, and Permission to Slow Down (00:21:12) Discussion about the importance of rest, recognizing burnout, and giving yourself permission to take breaks.

Losing & Gaining Relationships During Growth (00:26:29) Discussion on how healing and setting boundaries can lead to losing some relationships but making space for new, supportive ones.

Normalizing Change in Social Circles (00:30:02) Vanessa normalizes the cycling of people in and out of our lives as we grow and change.

Coping with the Pain of Losing Connections (00:31:20) Acknowledging the emotional difficulty of losing close connections during personal transformation.

Final Thoughts: Trusting Your Authentic Self (00:32:40) Vanessa's closing advice to trust yourself, embrace your authentic self, and reconnect with your inner child.

Being Yourself Attracts Your Tribe (00:34:12) Laura and Vanessa discuss how authenticity and humor help attract like-minded people and foster healing.

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In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura sits down with Gabrielle Burton, a Christian Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who specializes in the intersection of faith and clinical mental health. Gabrielle's expertise isn't just professional—it's deeply personal. Growing up as the "Golden Child" of a narcissistic pastor, she lived the confusing reality of reconciling a charismatic public persona with the severe emotional abuse that happened behind closed doors.

Gabrielle shares her journey of "performing for love" and how her upbringing in a high-control religious environment shaped her calling to help others heal from spiritual abuse and "church hurt." Together, she and Laura pull back the curtain on how narcissists hide in plain sight within church systems, the psychological toll of "playing dead" to survive, and the path to reclaiming an identity that isn't tied to performance.

Gabrielle Burton is a Christian Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, author, content creator, and podcast host passionate about helping people heal from trauma, overcome abuse, and walk fully in their God-given calling. With over 10 years of experience, she specializes in narcissistic and spiritual abuse, church hurt, and identity restoration—bridging biblical truth with clinical mental health care.

Gabrielle earned her Bachelor's degree in Communications from Bethel University and has an extensive clinical background spanning foster care, hospital intensive outpatient programs, and trauma-focused therapeutic retreats. She is the author of "The Ultimate Guide to Becoming a Gold Digger: Discovering the Hidden Treasures Within" and hosts the YouTube podcast "Hosting Heaven." A former member of the Grammy Award–winning ensemble "Sounds of Blackness," Gabrielle continues to use her background in singing and creative storytelling as a tool for healing and impact.

The "Golden Child" Experience (00:03:15): Gabrielle describes the moving target of her father's approval and being treated as an extension of his ego.

Public Persona vs. Private Reality (00:05:40): The difficulty of reconciling a father who is a "great storyteller" and pastor with the man who inflicted severe mental and emotional abuse at home.

Performing for Love (00:08:22): How being a "parentified child" taught Gabrielle that her value was tied to her gifts and "putting on a happy face."

The God Complex (00:15:30): Gabrielle recalls the "Made in My Father's Image" portrait—a chilling example of a narcissist's god complex and lack of boundaries.

Narcissism in Church Systems (00:19:45): A deep dive into how high-control religious environments prime women for abuse through rules on submission and silence.

Peacemakers vs. Peacekeepers (00:24:10): Gabrielle clarifies the difference: Peacekeepers stay silent to survive, while Peacemakers (like Jesus) confront toxicity to bring truth.

The "Narc Fog" and Social Rejection (00:29:55): Discussion on the anterior cingulate—how our brains register social rejection from a community as a physical threat to survival.

The Madonna-Whore Complex (00:32:40): Gabrielle explains this psychological splitting and how narcissists use it to manipulate and devalue their partners.

Authenticity as "Narcissist Repellent" (00:36:15): Why finding your own voice and setting boundaries is the quickest way to end a narcissistic cycle.

Powerful Quotes from the Episode

Gabrielle: "Narcissism is being more worried about what people think about you than what God thinks about you."

Gabrielle: "You play dead in order to survive... you stop questioning things because it's almost more crazy-making to try to have a different reality than just to go with the flow."

Laura: "I remember those lectures... like, do I need to be here for this? Can you just record yourself? It's ridiculous."

Gabrielle: "Rules without revelation equals resentment, which looks like rebellion."

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In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura sits down with Alana Sharps, founder of SurThrive Tribe, a High Conflict Divorce and Child Custody Consultant, and Best Selling Author. Alana's work is deeply rooted in both professional expertise and lived experience. After navigating a toxic marriage marked by psychological abuse, she transformed her own pain into purpose—emerging as an empowered survivor and a dedicated advocate for others facing similar challenges.

Alana shares her personal journey through a psychologically abusive marriage with a covert narcissist, the realities of high-conflict divorce and child custody battles, and the ongoing impact of post-separation abuse. Together, she and Laura discuss the importance of trauma-informed therapy, rebuilding self-worth, and the role of community support in healing. Inspired by her own experiences, Alana explains how she now helps others navigate the complex and often overwhelming landscape of high-conflict divorce. This episode offers hope, practical guidance, and valuable resources for anyone facing similar circumstances.

Key Topics & Timestamps

Alana's Timeline: Leaving and Helping Others (00:02:22) Alana shares when she left her marriage (2018) and began helping others (2021).

Realizing the Abuse and Awakening (00:02:59) Discussion about recognizing narcissistic abuse and the awakening process after leaving.

Therapy and Dismissing Early Warnings (00:04:08) Alana recalls dismissing her therapist's warning about narcissism during her marriage.

Love Bombing and Early Relationship Red Flags (00:07:47) Alana describes meeting her ex, early boundary-pushing, and the love bombing phase.

Rapid Relationship Progression (00:10:35) The relationship moved quickly: moving in, engagement, and marriage within a year.

Cycle of Abuse and Trying to Fix Things (00:14:22) Alana discusses the cycle of trying to regain the "good times" and the reality of abuse.

Parenting and Control Over Children (00:18:09) Alana describes her ex's controlling behavior with their children, especially her daughter.

Leaving After Witnessing Abuse (00:21:27) Alana decided to leave after witnessing her ex assault her son, prioritizing her children's safety.

Supporting Others: Safety Planning (00:22:30) Alana explains how she supports clients, especially around safety planning when leaving abuse.

Predictable Abuser Tactics in Court (00:25:36) Alana describes common legal tactics used by abusers, including false accusations and parental alienation.

Therapy Challenges with Narcissists (00:27:29) The difficulties and ineffectiveness of couples counseling with narcissists are discussed.

Financial Abuse and Hiding Assets (00:32:23) Discussion about financial manipulation and hiding assets during divorce.

Becoming a High Conflict Divorce Coach (00:33:58) Alana's journey to becoming a certified high conflict divorce and child custody coach.

EMDR and Healing from Trauma (00:37:34) Alana shares her experience with EMDR therapy for complex PTSD and managing triggers.

Powerful Quotes from the Episode

Alana, 'I wanted to be the person I needed when I was going through my divorce and child custody cases, because it's the worst feeling in the world to be scared you'll lose custody of your children.'

Alana, 'In public, he was the perfect father and spouse, but behind closed doors, our family was tormented.'

Alana, 'On our wedding night, he flipped out on me and continued to treat me badly on our honeymoon, and I was so confused.'

Alana, 'When I saw him assault my oldest son, the light bulb went off and I knew the kids were not safe and I needed to leave.'

Alana, 'When you share children, that's the last piece of control an abuser has over you, because now they can use the legal system to control you.'

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Complex PTSD (CPTSD) is a condition resulting from prolonged, repeated trauma (like ongoing abuse or captivity) that includes standard PTSD symptoms (flashbacks, avoidance) plus core difficulties in emotional regulation, self-perception (worthlessness, shame), and relationships (mistrust, isolation). It's often linked to childhood trauma, but can affect adults, differing from PTSD by its chronic cause and added disturbances in identity and connection with others.

EMDR, or Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing, is a psychotherapy that helps people heal from trauma and distressing life events by reprocessing painful memories using bilateral stimulation (like eye movements, taps, or sounds) while focusing on the memory, reducing its emotional impact and helping the brain process it more adaptively. Developed by Francine Shapiro, it's recognized by organizations like the WHO and APA as an effective treatment for PTSD, anxiety, and other conditions stemming from unprocessed past experiences.

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In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura sits down with Amy Jones — a Reflector Mentor, Sacred Strategist, and award-winning Publisher who generated over $1M in new client revenue in her first year of business while working part-time as a single mom of three. As a rare Reflector (just 1% of the population), Amy blends intuitive clarity with grounded, strategic leadership to help women build sustainable, soul-led businesses rooted in rhythm, purpose, and inner truth.

Before founding LIVE WITH INTENT Media Group, Amy spent more than two decades in corporate sales and leadership across IBM, TELUS, and a high-growth digital media start-up, contributing to its expansion from 7 to 300 employees in under two years. Today, she leads a growing ecosystem that includes Okanagan Lake Living Magazine, the Leadership in Rhythm Series, and the Futures Foundation—a circular wealth model directing revenue back into women-led families, emerging founders, and community impact projects.

In their conversation, Amy shares her journey from corporate burnout to becoming an intuitive life and business mentor. She and Laura explore what it means to break free from societal pressures, prioritize self-care, and allow yourself permission to experience pleasure, rest, and presence. Amy offers practical insights for nurturing well-being, celebrating small wins, and leading yourself with intention. This episode is a heartfelt exploration of healing, balance, and self-leadership for women seeking more joy and authenticity in their everyday lives.

Key Topics & Timestamps

Guest Introduction: Amy's Background (00:01:33) Laura introduces Amy, her business, and her approach to pleasure and business mastery.

Laughter and Joy as Medicine (00:02:00) Amy and Laura discuss the importance of laughter, joy, and laughter yoga for well-being.

Amy's Path to Healing and Energy Work (00:06:38) Amy describes her journey from codependency and therapy to discovering energy healing and chakras.

Helping Women Find Self-Leadership (00:09:47) Amy explains her mission to help women untangle unhealthy patterns and embrace self-leadership.

The Instinct for "More" and Midlife Reflection (00:11:33) Discussion about the instinctive longing for more and how it often surfaces at midlife.

Rest as a Skill and Societal Pressures (00:13:35) Amy discusses the importance of rest, her husband's experience, and society's struggle with slowing down.

Amy's Coaching Approach: Self-Leadership (00:15:36) Amy explains her coaching style, focusing on self-leadership rather than mothering or spoon-feeding.

Celebrating Small Wins and Incremental Progress (00:16:54) Amy uses the analogy of learning to ride a bike to illustrate the value of small, celebrated steps.

Redefining Success and Life Templates (00:23:18) Amy and Laura question societal templates for success in work and relationships.

Recognizing When Life Feels Wrong (00:24:04) Amy shares her realization that her "perfect" life felt unfulfilling and unsafe, prompting change.

Permission for Pleasure: Amy's Speaker Series (00:27:45) Amy introduces her "Permission for Pleasure" concept and speaker series, focusing on allowing oneself to receive pleasure.

Creating Space for Pleasure and Feminine Embodiment (00:32:24) Amy discusses feminine embodiment, creating space for pleasure, and how small changes can influence family dynamics.

Powerful Quotes from the Episode

Amy, 'My number one purpose in life is to enjoy life, not to work myself to exhaustion until I'm 65 and then take a vacation.'

Amy, 'Resting is a skill that is highly underrated.'

Amy, 'When you learn how to slow down and be in the moment and rest, you actually genuinely receive.'

Amy, 'I help women slow down so they can really enjoy the depth and richness of everything around them.'

Amy, 'Wherever you are, whatever you're going through, you have a mission, a message, and a purpose. You are so, so important.'

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In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura interviews Lynda Sunshine West, who shares her journey from a traumatic childhood to personal transformation. Lynda recounts running away from home at age five, overcoming years of fear and low self-worth, and breaking through one fear every day for a year. Her story highlights healing from past trauma, building healthy relationships, and finding purpose as a bestselling author and book publisher. The conversation offers hope and practical tools for women seeking to overcome fear, embrace self-acceptance, and create a fulfilling, authentic life.

Key Topics & Timestamps

Origin of the Name "Sunshine" (00:03:16) Lynda explains how she adopted the name "Sunshine" during her year of breaking through fears.

Running Away at Age Five (00:04:31) Lynda recounts running away from home at age five and the emotional impact it had on her life.

Childhood Family Dynamics & Self-Worth (00:06:53) Discussion of Lynda's family environment, feelings of neglect, and how these shaped her self-worth.

Personal Growth & Marital Challenges (00:15:39) Lynda shares how personal growth affected her marriage and her husband's reaction to her transformation.

Gaslighting & Narcissistic Abuse (00:18:59) Laura discusses gaslighting, narcissistic abuse, and her book on reclaiming self-worth.

Catalyst for Change at Age 51 (00:28:18) Lynda describes the breaking point in her career and the decision to hire a life coach.

The Power of Choice & Self-Discovery (00:33:22) Discussion on human choice, self-discovery, and the importance of making life changes at any age.

Marriage, Support, and Tough Love (00:34:36) Lynda shares a story about her husband's tough love regarding her health and the lessons learned.

Breaking Through Fear: The 365-Day Challenge (00:40:32) Lynda details her year-long challenge to break through one fear every day and its impact.

The Fear of Judgment & People-Pleasing (00:43:32) Lynda identifies fear of judgment as the root of many of her fears and how she overcame it.

Seven Simple Steps to Break Through Fear (00:45:55) Lynda introduces her seven-step method for overcoming fear and explains its logic.

Becoming a Book Publisher (00:50:19) Lynda shares how her journey led her to become a book publisher and help others share their stories.

Powerful Quotes from the Episode

Lynda, 'At five years old, gone a week, nobody came to get me. That belief was established: they didn't come because they didn't love me or want me around.'

Lynda, 'I believed I was stupid because he told me this every single day. I believed I was ignorant. I believed nobody liked me and that people were only nice to me because they felt sorry for me.'

Lynda, 'I hate my life. I hate everything I'm doing. I hate this job. Why am I doing this? Why am I here on this planet? What's my purpose?'

Lynda, 'I didn't know I was in the dark until I was in the light. I was in the dark for 51 years.'

Lynda, 'I have so many fears that are stopping me from living my life. I'm going to break through one fear every day this year.'

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"Courage isn't the absence of fear — it's choosing to move anyway."

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In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura interviews Lisa Hawkins — a Dating & Relationship Coach who empowers men and women to thrive in their relationships. With over 30 years of experience, Lisa has dedicated her life to understanding the intricacies of human connection and what truly makes relationships flourish. Her personal journey, marked by challenges, growth, and deep spiritual awareness, has given her a profound understanding of the obstacles individuals face in their search for love, healing, and self-discovery.

Lisa shares her story of overcoming generational trauma, abuse, and the difficult process of recovering after an abusive marriage. The conversation explores the struggle of recognizing and trusting your instincts, the impact of societal conditioning, and the non-linear nature of healing. Lisa also offers practical guidance on self-awareness, journaling, and cultivating self-love. Together, she and Laura highlight the importance of compassion, patience, and honoring your unique path. Listeners are encouraged to embrace their own journeys and seek support as they reclaim their lives.

Key Topics & Timestamps

Lisa's Background and Unconscious Family Conditioning (00:02:33) Lisa shares her upbringing in a toxic, unconscious family and how it led to abusive relationships.

Experiences of Oppression and Lack of Boundaries (00:03:42) Lisa describes being raised to be agreeable, lacking boundaries, and early experiences of abuse.

Immediate Regret After Marriage (00:06:52) Lisa recalls knowing she made a mistake hours after marrying, but feeling trapped by religion.

Life in an Abusive Marriage (00:07:32) Lisa details her ten-year marriage, cycles of leaving and returning, and escalation of abuse.

Barriers to Leaving Abusive Relationships (00:09:09) Lisa and Laura discuss why leaving abuse is complex, including privilege and safety concerns.

The Long Healing Journey (00:14:12) Lisa shares that her healing has spanned 30 years, involving unraveling trauma and conditioning.

Visible Healing and Personal Growth (00:16:15) Laura and Lisa reflect on how healing manifests outwardly and the unseen hard work behind it.

Reacting vs. Responding and the Limits of Clichés (00:19:10) Discussion on the difference between reacting and responding, and why healing isn't as simple as memes suggest.

Being vs. Doing in Healing (00:23:23) Lisa emphasizes the importance of being present and authentic in the healing process.

Journaling and Pattern Recognition (00:26:04) Lisa recommends journaling to track feelings and patterns, aiding in rebuilding self-trust.

Lisa's Podcast and Coaching Work (00:28:54) Lisa introduces her podcast "Conscious Insights" and describes her coaching clientele.

Powerful Quotes from the Episode

Lisa, 'That was the pivoting point in my life where I hit absolute bottom. There was absolutely nothing left of me.'Lisa, 'Some part of me, the fighter in me, came up and said, I'm not going to let this define me, and I will overcome it.'Lisa, 'Sometimes the emotions are more than what our bodies and brain and nervous system can take, and we become numb because that's the only way we can survive.'Lisa, 'There was a lot of conditioning that I wasn't aware of when I started the journey that was given to me from generations that I've had to unravel.'Lisa, 'There are times when I'm still learning to trust my gut, and I've been doing this for a long time.'

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In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura welcomes Beth M. Jones—an International Speaker, Author of 30 books, and podcaster. Beth is the wife of fire chief Ray, mom to three beautiful daughters (Heather, Eden, and Leah), and has two adorable cats. She helps women step out of fear into faith by sharing her story and the freedom we have in Jesus. Beth believes we should dream big because we serve a big God!

Beth shares her powerful journey from childhood abuse and toxic relationships to healing and faith. She discusses overcoming trauma, recognizing red flags in abusive relationships, and the importance of self-worth and support. Drawing on her own experiences and faith in Jesus, Beth encourages women to step out of fear and embrace their unique purpose. The episode offers hope, practical insights, and resources for women seeking freedom and transformation.

Key Topics & Timestamps

Beth's Motivation to Help Women (00:02:47) Beth explains how her childhood experiences inspired her to help women step out of fear into faith.

Cinderella as a Metaphor for Unique Purpose (00:04:02) Beth discusses her connection to Cinderella, relating it to abuse and dreaming big.

Beth's Childhood Abuse and Early Escape (00:05:03) Beth shares her experiences of childhood abuse and her desire to leave home as a teenager.

Short-Lived First Marriage and Divorce (00:08:08) Beth talks about her brief first marriage, the birth of her daughter, and eventual separation.

Post-Divorce Partying and Delayed Healing (00:11:13) Beth admits to partying and not focusing on self-improvement until much later in life.

Journalism Career and Second Marriage (00:12:28) Beth describes her journalism internship, meeting her second husband, and his initial charm.

Escalating Abuse and Financial Dependence (00:22:07) Beth describes the onset of her husband's temper, walking on eggshells, and feeling trapped financially.

Physical Abuse Toward Beth's Daughter (00:28:26) Beth recounts her husband's violence toward her daughter, a medical emergency, and moving to escape.

Trauma Bonding and Self-Doubt (00:35:06) Beth and Laura discuss trauma bonding, self-esteem issues, and the difficulty of breaking free from abuse.

Beginning the Healing Journey (00:36:41) Beth starts counseling after her husband leaves, experiences panic attacks, and begins healing with her daughter.

Therapy, Journaling, and Recovery (00:38:04) Beth describes the impact of therapy, journaling, and addressing compounded childhood trauma.

Overcoming Fear and Embracing Public Speaking (00:41:04) Beth shares her initial fear of public speaking and how she learned to "do it afraid."

Travel, Growth, and Encouraging Others (00:42:54) Beth discusses international speaking, personal growth, and encouraging others to pursue their dreams.

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"Bravery isn't loud—sometimes it's just choosing yourself."

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In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura welcomes Julie Danielson—Life Coach, author, host of the "Get Over Divorce" podcast, and creator of the "Get Over Divorce Collective," a coaching program that helps women heal powerfully and create a life they love after divorce. Julie discusses healing after divorce, especially from narcissistic relationships, sharing her personal journey and the challenges of co-parenting with a toxic ex. She offers practical strategies like setting boundaries and using the Gray Rock Method. Together, they emphasize the importance of self-care, supportive communities, and rediscovering joy after trauma. Listeners are encouraged to reclaim their self-worth, embrace new experiences, and connect with resources for ongoing support and empowerment.

Key Topics & Timestamps

Julie's Divorce Story (00:02:18) Julie shares her background, early marriage, and the personal journey leading to her divorce.

Personal Growth After Divorce (00:06:33) Julie discusses her self-improvement, career growth, and the decision to end her marriage.

Co-Parenting and Divorce Logistics (00:07:57) Julie explains the divorce process, co-parenting arrangements, and how clear agreements helped.

Empowered Dating and Self-Worth (00:11:32) Laura and Julie reflect on dating with self-worth, authenticity, and not shape-shifting for others.

How Julie Became a Divorce Coach (00:13:25) Julie describes her journey into coaching, the importance of authentic connections, and building her program.

Julie's Second Marriage and Continued Growth (00:15:44) Julie shares meeting her current husband, the growth within a healthy relationship, and career transitions.

Building a Coaching Business (00:17:39) Julie talks about starting her coaching business, focusing on helping women through divorce.

Narcissistic Abuse vs. "Regular" Divorce (00:18:51) Discussion on the differences between divorcing a narcissist and a typical divorce, and the prevalence of narcissistic abuse.

Losing Friends and Outgrowing Social Circles (00:26:31) They discuss how healing and setting boundaries can lead to losing friends who thrived on drama.

Neuroplasticity and Healing the Brain (00:35:25) Discussion on how trying new things helps heal the brain after abuse and builds new neural pathways.

Advice for Women Newly Divorced (00:37:11) Julie shares the "gray rock" method for dealing with toxic or narcissistic exes and minimizing emotional responses.

Turning the Tables on the Narcissist (00:40:09) How gray rocking annoys narcissists and helps reclaim personal power.

Handling Provocations and Staying Factual (00:41:42) Advice on not justifying or explaining yourself, sticking to facts, and not reacting to provocations.

Julie, 'As you grow and change, you are reaching new levels.'

Julie, 'You don't need that drama in your life. Drama is life-sucking, and drama is what the narcissist surrounds himself with.'

Julie, 'Your brain just expanded and you created a new neurotransmitter that says, "Oh, I can do this."'

Laura, 'I'm good. And I do not ever have to acknowledge it because I've done too much work. I'm worth more than that. And so I will gray rock my life away.'

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In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura talks with Rhonda, a financial coach and advocate for women navigating divorce. Once someone who avoided conflict, Rhonda transformed her communication skills through therapy and education, turning her personal challenges into a mission to help other women find their voice and financial confidence.

With over 17,000 hours of experience, 565 clients served, and $20 million secured for women, Rhonda brings both expertise and empathy to her work. A former financial advisor, she recognized that women facing divorce need more than advice—they need strategic and emotional support to rebuild their lives.

Laura and Rhonda explore the realities of financial abuse, lack of access to information, and the emotional toll of divorce. Rhonda also shares her CIA framework—Communication, Integrity, and Advocacy—to help women make informed decisions and achieve lasting financial independence.

Key Topics & Timestamps

Transition to Financial Industry (00:05:20) Rhonda discusses entering the financial industry and encountering both support and dysfunction.

Founding Women's Financial Wellness Center (00:06:40) Rhonda explains why she started her business and her holistic approach to financial coaching.

Challenging Gender Stereotypes in Finance (00:11:29) Laura and Rhonda discuss outdated views about women and money, and the importance of empowerment.

Strategies for Uncovering Hidden Assets (00:15:11) Rhonda shares investigative strategies for finding hidden assets and the importance of asking the right questions.

Manipulation in Divorce Settlements (00:20:50) Laura and Rhonda discuss manipulation, gaslighting, and the importance of advocating for fair settlements.

Real-Life Impact of Divorce on Lifestyle (00:24:19) Rhonda explains the 41% decrease in lifestyle post-divorce and how to plan for financial changes.

Encouraging Proactive Financial Conversations (00:30:29) Advice for women to start asking questions, taking inventory, and reviewing financial documents.

Respect and Integrity in Financial Services (00:36:33) Laura and Rhonda discuss the need for respect, integrity, and clear communication from financial professionals.

Rhonda, 'If I can help one woman improve her relationship with money, I've empowered her for a lifetime.'

Rhonda, 'We just have to crunch the numbers and see where stuff lands and give women a voice to be able to advocate for what they need.'

Rhonda, 'Don't just sign. That's probably my biggest advice. Don't just sign.'

Rhonda, 'You don't have to know everything. You just have to be willing to ask questions unapologetically.'

Rhonda, 'You create that safety, you create that trust, you know that somebody has your best interests at heart.'

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In this empowering episode of That's Where I'm At, host Laura sits down with Heidi Bee, the Divorce Comeback Coach, to explore the emotional journey of rebuilding life after divorce.

Heidi Bee is a certified and trauma-informed divorce coach and somatic breathwork facilitator. Through her 3-month Comeback Course & Coaching Community, she helps women navigate their "new normal" by providing the roadmap, resources, and relationships needed to move forward with confidence. She's also the host of the Divorce Comeback Coach podcast, where she shares truth-telling conversations and practical guidance to help women take their next best step toward the life they deserve and desire.

In this heartfelt conversation, Laura and Heidi open up about:

• The feelings of isolation, grief, and identity loss that often follow divorce — especially after long-term or toxic relationships.
• The importance of self-care, setting healthy boundaries, and rebuilding community during recovery.
• How embracing vulnerability and self-compassion can lead to powerful transformation and growth.

Together, they remind listeners that while the road to healing may be difficult, it is also filled with opportunities for renewal, empowerment, and rediscovery of one's true self.

Key Topics & Timestamps

Heidi's Divorce Story and the "Divorce Ditch" (00:03:06) Heidi shares her personal experience of feeling lost and stuck after divorce, describing it as the "divorce ditch."

Coping Mechanisms and Avoidance (00:06:41) Heidi describes unhealthy coping mechanisms she used to avoid pain, such as overworking and numbing behaviors.

Shame, Stigma, and the Need for Conversation (00:08:28) Exploring the shame and societal stigma around divorce, and the importance of open conversations.

Coaching, Dreaming, and Finding Your Voice (00:17:28) Laura and Heidi discuss the role of coaching in helping women dream again and reclaim their voices.

Relationship with Uncertainty and Healing (00:25:45) Learning to manage uncertainty, calm the nervous system, and develop new tools for emotional regulation.

Attracting Healthy Relationships Through Self-Love (00:31:37) Heidi shares how self-love and authenticity attract healthier relationships, both romantic and platonic.

Protecting Emotional Energy and Reclaiming Space (00:40:48) Heidi emphasizes protecting your emotional landscape and reclaiming energy from unhealthy attachments.

Making a "Shit List" and Tracking Emotional Impact (00:44:52) Using a list to remember the negative impacts of an ex and tracking emotional responses to avoid repeating pain.

Heidi, 'I didn't want to admit I was depressed, but I was grieving and resisting it.'

Heidi, 'I woke up one day thinking, I don't even know who I am anymore.'

Laura, 'You deserve to trust your gut again. Spoiler alert: you were never the problem.'

Laura, 'I started my podcast and realized no one ever let me talk.'

Heidi, 'Recovery is self-discovery, and I forgot to continue to decide who I was going to be.'

Heidi, 'It's more about trusting yourself, trusting that no matter what happens, you can handle it.'

Heidi, 'I want people to know you don't have to be afraid of not knowing who you are. All that is, is uncertainty.'

Heidi, 'The more I let go of things that no longer serve me, the more I have space to receive what is.'

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