In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura welcomes Beth M. Jones—an International Speaker, Author of 30 books, and podcaster. Beth is the wife of fire chief Ray, mom to three beautiful daughters (Heather, Eden, and Leah), and has two adorable cats. She helps women step out of fear into faith by sharing her story and the freedom we have in Jesus. Beth believes we should dream big because we serve a big God!

Beth shares her powerful journey from childhood abuse and toxic relationships to healing and faith. She discusses overcoming trauma, recognizing red flags in abusive relationships, and the importance of self-worth and support. Drawing on her own experiences and faith in Jesus, Beth encourages women to step out of fear and embrace their unique purpose. The episode offers hope, practical insights, and resources for women seeking freedom and transformation.

Key Topics & Timestamps

Beth's Motivation to Help Women (00:02:47) Beth explains how her childhood experiences inspired her to help women step out of fear into faith.

Cinderella as a Metaphor for Unique Purpose (00:04:02) Beth discusses her connection to Cinderella, relating it to abuse and dreaming big.

Beth's Childhood Abuse and Early Escape (00:05:03) Beth shares her experiences of childhood abuse and her desire to leave home as a teenager.

Short-Lived First Marriage and Divorce (00:08:08) Beth talks about her brief first marriage, the birth of her daughter, and eventual separation.

Post-Divorce Partying and Delayed Healing (00:11:13) Beth admits to partying and not focusing on self-improvement until much later in life.

Journalism Career and Second Marriage (00:12:28) Beth describes her journalism internship, meeting her second husband, and his initial charm.

Escalating Abuse and Financial Dependence (00:22:07) Beth describes the onset of her husband's temper, walking on eggshells, and feeling trapped financially.

Physical Abuse Toward Beth's Daughter (00:28:26) Beth recounts her husband's violence toward her daughter, a medical emergency, and moving to escape.

Trauma Bonding and Self-Doubt (00:35:06) Beth and Laura discuss trauma bonding, self-esteem issues, and the difficulty of breaking free from abuse.

Beginning the Healing Journey (00:36:41) Beth starts counseling after her husband leaves, experiences panic attacks, and begins healing with her daughter.

Therapy, Journaling, and Recovery (00:38:04) Beth describes the impact of therapy, journaling, and addressing compounded childhood trauma.

Overcoming Fear and Embracing Public Speaking (00:41:04) Beth shares her initial fear of public speaking and how she learned to "do it afraid."

Travel, Growth, and Encouraging Others (00:42:54) Beth discusses international speaking, personal growth, and encouraging others to pursue their dreams.

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"Bravery isn't loud—sometimes it's just choosing yourself."

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In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura welcomes Julie Danielson—Life Coach, author, host of the "Get Over Divorce" podcast, and creator of the "Get Over Divorce Collective," a coaching program that helps women heal powerfully and create a life they love after divorce. Julie discusses healing after divorce, especially from narcissistic relationships, sharing her personal journey and the challenges of co-parenting with a toxic ex. She offers practical strategies like setting boundaries and using the Gray Rock Method. Together, they emphasize the importance of self-care, supportive communities, and rediscovering joy after trauma. Listeners are encouraged to reclaim their self-worth, embrace new experiences, and connect with resources for ongoing support and empowerment.

Key Topics & Timestamps

Julie's Divorce Story (00:02:18) Julie shares her background, early marriage, and the personal journey leading to her divorce.

Personal Growth After Divorce (00:06:33) Julie discusses her self-improvement, career growth, and the decision to end her marriage.

Co-Parenting and Divorce Logistics (00:07:57) Julie explains the divorce process, co-parenting arrangements, and how clear agreements helped.

Empowered Dating and Self-Worth (00:11:32) Laura and Julie reflect on dating with self-worth, authenticity, and not shape-shifting for others.

How Julie Became a Divorce Coach (00:13:25) Julie describes her journey into coaching, the importance of authentic connections, and building her program.

Julie's Second Marriage and Continued Growth (00:15:44) Julie shares meeting her current husband, the growth within a healthy relationship, and career transitions.

Building a Coaching Business (00:17:39) Julie talks about starting her coaching business, focusing on helping women through divorce.

Narcissistic Abuse vs. "Regular" Divorce (00:18:51) Discussion on the differences between divorcing a narcissist and a typical divorce, and the prevalence of narcissistic abuse.

Losing Friends and Outgrowing Social Circles (00:26:31) They discuss how healing and setting boundaries can lead to losing friends who thrived on drama.

Neuroplasticity and Healing the Brain (00:35:25) Discussion on how trying new things helps heal the brain after abuse and builds new neural pathways.

Advice for Women Newly Divorced (00:37:11) Julie shares the "gray rock" method for dealing with toxic or narcissistic exes and minimizing emotional responses.

Turning the Tables on the Narcissist (00:40:09) How gray rocking annoys narcissists and helps reclaim personal power.

Handling Provocations and Staying Factual (00:41:42) Advice on not justifying or explaining yourself, sticking to facts, and not reacting to provocations.

Julie, 'As you grow and change, you are reaching new levels.'

Julie, 'You don't need that drama in your life. Drama is life-sucking, and drama is what the narcissist surrounds himself with.'

Julie, 'Your brain just expanded and you created a new neurotransmitter that says, "Oh, I can do this."'

Laura, 'I'm good. And I do not ever have to acknowledge it because I've done too much work. I'm worth more than that. And so I will gray rock my life away.'

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"Boundaries aren't walls—they're bridges back to yourself."

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In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura talks with Rhonda, a financial coach and advocate for women navigating divorce. Once someone who avoided conflict, Rhonda transformed her communication skills through therapy and education, turning her personal challenges into a mission to help other women find their voice and financial confidence.

With over 17,000 hours of experience, 565 clients served, and $20 million secured for women, Rhonda brings both expertise and empathy to her work. A former financial advisor, she recognized that women facing divorce need more than advice—they need strategic and emotional support to rebuild their lives.

Laura and Rhonda explore the realities of financial abuse, lack of access to information, and the emotional toll of divorce. Rhonda also shares her CIA framework—Communication, Integrity, and Advocacy—to help women make informed decisions and achieve lasting financial independence.

Key Topics & Timestamps

Transition to Financial Industry (00:05:20) Rhonda discusses entering the financial industry and encountering both support and dysfunction.

Founding Women's Financial Wellness Center (00:06:40) Rhonda explains why she started her business and her holistic approach to financial coaching.

Challenging Gender Stereotypes in Finance (00:11:29) Laura and Rhonda discuss outdated views about women and money, and the importance of empowerment.

Strategies for Uncovering Hidden Assets (00:15:11) Rhonda shares investigative strategies for finding hidden assets and the importance of asking the right questions.

Manipulation in Divorce Settlements (00:20:50) Laura and Rhonda discuss manipulation, gaslighting, and the importance of advocating for fair settlements.

Real-Life Impact of Divorce on Lifestyle (00:24:19) Rhonda explains the 41% decrease in lifestyle post-divorce and how to plan for financial changes.

Encouraging Proactive Financial Conversations (00:30:29) Advice for women to start asking questions, taking inventory, and reviewing financial documents.

Respect and Integrity in Financial Services (00:36:33) Laura and Rhonda discuss the need for respect, integrity, and clear communication from financial professionals.

Rhonda, 'If I can help one woman improve her relationship with money, I've empowered her for a lifetime.'

Rhonda, 'We just have to crunch the numbers and see where stuff lands and give women a voice to be able to advocate for what they need.'

Rhonda, 'Don't just sign. That's probably my biggest advice. Don't just sign.'

Rhonda, 'You don't have to know everything. You just have to be willing to ask questions unapologetically.'

Rhonda, 'You create that safety, you create that trust, you know that somebody has your best interests at heart.'

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"Financial freedom begins the moment you find your voice."

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In this empowering episode of That's Where I'm At, host Laura sits down with Heidi Bee, the Divorce Comeback Coach, to explore the emotional journey of rebuilding life after divorce.

Heidi Bee is a certified and trauma-informed divorce coach and somatic breathwork facilitator. Through her 3-month Comeback Course & Coaching Community, she helps women navigate their "new normal" by providing the roadmap, resources, and relationships needed to move forward with confidence. She's also the host of the Divorce Comeback Coach podcast, where she shares truth-telling conversations and practical guidance to help women take their next best step toward the life they deserve and desire.

In this heartfelt conversation, Laura and Heidi open up about:

• The feelings of isolation, grief, and identity loss that often follow divorce — especially after long-term or toxic relationships.
• The importance of self-care, setting healthy boundaries, and rebuilding community during recovery.
• How embracing vulnerability and self-compassion can lead to powerful transformation and growth.

Together, they remind listeners that while the road to healing may be difficult, it is also filled with opportunities for renewal, empowerment, and rediscovery of one's true self.

Key Topics & Timestamps

Heidi's Divorce Story and the "Divorce Ditch" (00:03:06) Heidi shares her personal experience of feeling lost and stuck after divorce, describing it as the "divorce ditch."

Coping Mechanisms and Avoidance (00:06:41) Heidi describes unhealthy coping mechanisms she used to avoid pain, such as overworking and numbing behaviors.

Shame, Stigma, and the Need for Conversation (00:08:28) Exploring the shame and societal stigma around divorce, and the importance of open conversations.

Coaching, Dreaming, and Finding Your Voice (00:17:28) Laura and Heidi discuss the role of coaching in helping women dream again and reclaim their voices.

Relationship with Uncertainty and Healing (00:25:45) Learning to manage uncertainty, calm the nervous system, and develop new tools for emotional regulation.

Attracting Healthy Relationships Through Self-Love (00:31:37) Heidi shares how self-love and authenticity attract healthier relationships, both romantic and platonic.

Protecting Emotional Energy and Reclaiming Space (00:40:48) Heidi emphasizes protecting your emotional landscape and reclaiming energy from unhealthy attachments.

Making a "Shit List" and Tracking Emotional Impact (00:44:52) Using a list to remember the negative impacts of an ex and tracking emotional responses to avoid repeating pain.

Heidi, 'I didn't want to admit I was depressed, but I was grieving and resisting it.'

Heidi, 'I woke up one day thinking, I don't even know who I am anymore.'

Laura, 'You deserve to trust your gut again. Spoiler alert: you were never the problem.'

Laura, 'I started my podcast and realized no one ever let me talk.'

Heidi, 'Recovery is self-discovery, and I forgot to continue to decide who I was going to be.'

Heidi, 'It's more about trusting yourself, trusting that no matter what happens, you can handle it.'

Heidi, 'I want people to know you don't have to be afraid of not knowing who you are. All that is, is uncertainty.'

Heidi, 'The more I let go of things that no longer serve me, the more I have space to receive what is.'

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"The more you let go of what's gone, the more space you create for what's meant for you."

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In this episode of That's Where I'm At, host Laura sits down with Kate, a nurse of more than 20 years and a personal development coach, to talk about sobriety, self-worth, and healing after narcissistic relationships. Together, they explore how alcohol, food, and limiting beliefs can leave women vulnerable to toxic dynamics—and how breaking free requires courage, boundaries, and a new story.

Kate shares her personal journey of getting sober, healing from toxic relationships, and reclaiming her power through coaching and self-discovery. With a focus on mental health and sobriety in her nursing career, Kate now runs a private practice helping women move past numbing behaviors and self-defeating patterns so they can step into their divine purpose.

This heartfelt conversation offers practical strategies, hope, and encouragement for women ready to rewrite their narratives, reclaim their worth, and create healthier, more authentic lives.

Key Topics & Timestamps

Alcohol, Vulnerability, and Narcissistic Relationships (00:03:14) Kate explains how heavy drinking made her vulnerable to narcissistic partners and losing her sense of self.

Drinking's Impact on Women (00:06:33) Discussion on how alcohol affects women differently and the societal normalization of drinking.

Boundaries and Coaching Women (00:14:42) The importance of boundaries, self-sabotage, and how Kate coaches women to recognize and address these issues.

Gaslighting and Reclaiming Sanity (00:19:44) Laura and Kate discuss gaslighting in narcissistic relationships and the importance of trusting your gut.

Losing and Gaining Friends in Sobriety (00:28:48) Kate and Laura talk about losing old friends and gaining more authentic connections after getting sober.

Love Bombing, Alcohol, and the Nervous System (00:37:19) How love bombing and alcohol both create emotional highs and lows, destabilizing women in toxic relationships.

Coaching vs. Therapy: The House Painting Analogy (00:41:51) Kate explains the difference between coaching and therapy, using the analogy of missing a spot while painting.

Kate's Coaching Practice (00:49:33) Kate describes her coaching services, approach, and how women can work with her for personal development and sobriety.

"Nobody plans on being an alcoholic; it's a very insidious drug that creeps up on us." - Kate

"Give yourself permission to question your relationships when you get sober." - Kate

"Alcohol only fuels your anxiety, and your superpower is getting really clear." - Kate

"Go where you are celebrated, not tolerated." - Kate

"A lot of healing has to do with just discovering our own power through sobriety." - Kate

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Sobriety is where self-worth begins, and healing truly takes root.

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In this episode of That's Where I'm At, Laura and guest Allison K. Dagney share their experiences of healing after covert narcissistic relationships. They explore the challenges of recognizing emotional abuse, navigating divorce, and rebuilding self-worth through therapy, journaling, and supportive communities. Together, they offer hope and practical tools for women on their own healing journeys.

Allison is a best-selling memoirist and emotional abuse recovery coach who helps women rise above toxic cycles and reclaim their strength. After nearly 20 years in a covertly abusive marriage, she transformed her trauma into triumph, later sharing her journey in her books When Tears Leave Scars and Radiate and Rise.

Key Topics & Timestamps

Laura's Divorce & Realization (00:04:08) Laura recounts her divorce, discovering her ex's infidelity, and the clarity that followed about narcissistic abuse.

Leaving a Narcissist: Planning & Survival (00:12:29) They discuss the importance of secret planning, survival mode, and the challenges of leaving an abusive relationship.

Financial Abuse & Legal Strategies (00:20:56) Alison explains legal strategies like "status quo" to maintain financial stability during divorce.

Finding Peace & Adjusting to Freedom (00:28:06) They discuss the unfamiliar feeling of peace and freedom after leaving an abusive relationship.

Writing & Healing: Books and Podcasts (00:33:10) Laura describes her book's structure, the non-linear nature of healing, and the importance of sharing personal stories.

Identity Loss & Rediscovery (00:40:23) They explore how abusive relationships cause loss of identity and the process of rediscovering personal interests.

Quality Over Quantity in Relationships (00:58:11) They reflect on the value of having a smaller, higher-quality support network after leaving abuse.

"I didn't know the depths of hell that a narcissist can do to you." - Alison

"I had to choose me. I'd never chosen me, so I had to choose me.' - Laura

"I cried because I was good at something I was never allowed to try, and someone was saying something nice to me." - Laura

"I totally did not know what self-love was or how to love myself." - Alison

"You have to take the first step, even if you don't see the whole staircase." - Laura

"The key to me is boundaries, but you're not going to get there without self-love." - Laura

"I am changing in a very good way, but that causes people to walk themselves right out of my life. I don't need those kinds of people anymore." - Alison

"People are out there. Your tribe is out there. Unfortunately, you have to let go of the rest to find them." - Laura

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Your past may shape you, but it does not define your future.

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In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura welcomes Dr. Tina, a holistic brain health practitioner and survivor-turned-guide specializing in recovery from narcissistic abuse. Dr. Tina received her Ph.D. in Neuroscience from the University of Rochester and completed postdoctoral fellowships in psychiatric and nutritional epidemiology at Johns Hopkins and Tufts University. Drawing on both neuroscience and medical intuition, she helps sensitive souls address root causes beyond relationships, surroundings, or symptoms.

Together, Laura and Dr. Tina discuss the challenges of toxic relationships, the importance of boundaries, and the path toward self-love. Dr. Tina shares her personal journey of once feeling like a magnet for toxic people, the strategies she developed to reclaim her power, and how those discoveries shaped her 7-Step UPLIFTS Program—a powerful framework to help clients heal from narcissistic abuse and learn to love again.

Throughout the conversation, she offers practical tools such as somatic practices, mindfulness, and energy protection techniques, while Laura reflects on her own healing journey and advocates for women to share their stories. Known as a dynamic speaker who inspires hope in those navigating chronic health challenges and toxic relationships, Dr. Tina brings wisdom, compassion, and encouragement to anyone ready to reclaim their voice and their power.

Key Topics & Timestamps

Dr. Tina's Personal Journey & Becoming a Practitioner (00:02:33) Dr. Tina shares her experiences with toxic people and how it led her to specialize in this field.

Understanding Boundaries and People-Pleasing (00:03:52) Discussion about the importance of boundaries, people-pleasing, and how these patterns attract toxic individuals.

Fight, Flight, Freeze, and Trauma Release (00:07:14) The role of trauma responses and subconscious work in healing from abuse.

Gray Rock Method & Emotional Detachment (00:10:16) Explanation of the gray rock method and its effectiveness in dealing with narcissists.

Self-Love and Healing Journey (00:13:35) The importance of self-love, inner work, and the ripple effects of personal healing.

Who Should Seek Dr. Tina's Help (00:39:28) Description of ideal clients and readiness for healing or relationship change.

"Never too late. Why not live the life you want, right?"

"People with a lot of trauma can have very, very thick heart walls. I had a lot."

"I grew up with narcissists and then I had a narcissist that destroyed my career."

"I like that idea of celebrating your personal best because I think that's so important. It really makes me happy to think about where I was and now where I am."

"I like to tell people, don't try hard. Try easy. Releasing subconscious barriers is the easiest and fastest way to get to where you want to go."

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Boundaries aren't walls—they're bridges back to yourself.

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In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura and her guest, Gabi Garland—her podcast producer and close friend—discuss Laura's healing journey after divorcing a narcissistic ex-husband. They explore the challenges of setting boundaries, overcoming shame, and breaking generational cycles of trauma. Laura shares how creating the podcast has empowered her and built a supportive community for survivors. The conversation highlights the importance of vulnerability, self-love, and storytelling in healing, offering hope and practical advice to listeners navigating their own paths to recovery and self-discovery.

Key Topics & Timestamps

Celebrating Two Years & Laura's Transformation (00:01:56) Producer reflects on Laura's growth from fearful to empowered over the past three years.

The Impact of Abuse on Self-Belief (00:09:53) How abuse rewires beliefs and the importance of doing deep inner work.

Support Systems & Newfound Family (00:11:58) The importance of supportive friends and chosen family during healing.

Celebrating Successes & Achievements (00:17:05) Laura's milestones: media appearances, bestselling books, and learning to celebrate herself.

Podcast Growth & External Recognition (00:22:58) Reaching top podcast rankings, media invitations, and the impact of authenticity.

Accountability & Choosing to Heal (00:53:07) Encouragement to seek therapy, question inherited identities, and choose change.

Generational Healing & Family Reconciliation (01:04:46) Changing generational patterns, healing with her children, and doing it for future generations.

The Power of Telling Your Story (01:16:26) Encouragement to share your story, as it may be the key to someone else's healing.

The Worth of the Healing Journey (01:19:00) Reflecting on the value of the healing process and excitement for the future.

"If it feels hard, that doesn't mean it's wrong. The wrong people are leaving, and there's room for the right ones."

"Gaslighting isn't just a buzzword—it's the sick, spiraling feeling when they say, 'You're too sensitive.'"

"You're never going to get to boundaries if you don't love yourself."

"The only person we're protecting when we stay silent is the abuser."

"There's a woman who was me three years ago—if I don't tell my story, she's going to die."

"It's never too late. Please hear this—you can change."

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The moment I broke my silence, I found my strength.

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In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura interviews Michal Spiegelman, a certified professional life coach, Reiki master, spiritual mentor, medical intuitive, and social worker, about healing from abuse and trauma, especially for women. Michal shares her journey from social work to holistic healing after her own trauma, emphasizing that true recovery involves body, soul, and spiritual work—not just talk therapy. The conversation explores practical tools like soul journaling and guided visualization, the importance of self-worth, and setting boundaries. Listeners are encouraged to seek holistic healing approaches and connect deeply with their inner selves for lasting transformation. Michal is the author of 'Becoming Soulful: Six Keys for Profound Transformation in Your Therapy, Coaching, or Healing Practice,' and is passionate about elevating consciousness in the world, one soul at a time. She empowers women and healing professionals alike to become soulful and shine in their personal and professional lives.

Key Topics & Timestamps

The Limits of Talk Therapy (00:03:17)Michal discusses the limitations of traditional therapy and the importance of integrating body and soul work.

The Role of the Soul in Healing (00:05:05)Michal explains the importance of connecting with one's soul for deep, sustainable healing and guidance.

Soul Journaling and Practical Practices (00:11:50)Michal describes practical exercises for connecting with the soul, such as soul journaling and intentional rituals.

Patterns from Past Trauma (00:14:10)Laura and Michal discuss how childhood patterns and beliefs influence current relationships and healing.

Kindness vs. Tolerating Abuse (00:14:34)Michal highlights the common confusion between being kind and tolerating abuse, especially among spiritual women.

Self-Love and Breaking Patterns (00:18:50)Laura and Michal discuss the necessity of self-love and worthiness to break cycles of abuse and attract healthier relationships.

Not All Healing Means Divorce (00:21:50)Michal notes that not all clients end up divorcing; some transform their relationships through inner work.

Laura, 00:18:50, 'The biggest thing for me was learning how to love myself and that I had value.'

Michal, 00:19:01, 'Until you feel that you're worthy and until you really learn to love yourself, that's why many women attract relationship after relationship with abuse.'

Laura, 00:20:58, 'I have value, I have worth, and he was unwilling to participate in our life.'

Michal, 00:22:01, 'If we get a divorce and we don't do the inner work, then we just bring the same patterns into the next relationship.'

Michal, 00:22:51, 'To know and to remember that the trauma is stored in the body.'

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Healing begins when you remember your worth.

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In this episode of That's Where I'm At, host Laura sits down with Marla Bollak, an Interpersonal Relationship Coach and Certified Sacred Depths Coach trained in NLP, neuro-coaching, and trauma. Marla's mission is to empower professionals to clear blocks from within themselves and from toxic relationships in the workplace or family. Her holistic approach integrates the body, mind, emotions, and energetics. She specializes in working with highly functioning, successful professionals who have read all the books, attended all the seminars, tried all the things — with some success — yet the problem remains.

Together, Laura and Marla explore:

• Healing from narcissistic abuse and how childhood trauma affects adult relationships
• How trauma responses like fawning develop and why nervous system regulation is essential
• The power of an empathetic witness in healing
• How healing shifts your energy, helping you break free from toxic cycles
• The role of vulnerability and compassion in long-term growth and recovery

Whether you're on the path to healing or supporting someone who is, this episode offers practical tools, hope, and encouragement.

Key Topics & Timestamps

Marla's Background and Healing Journey (00:02:58) Marla shares her childhood experiences, her healing journey, and her motivation for coaching others.

Why People Don't Intervene (00:08:28) Marla and Laura discuss conflict avoidance, enablers, and the challenges of getting support from others.

Clients' Experiences and Trauma Responses (00:09:24) Marla describes common issues clients face, trauma responses like fawning, and the importance of nervous system regulation.

The Role of the Empathetic Witness (00:12:31) Marla explains the importance of having an empathetic witness in healing and how memories can be changed.

Growth Through Healing and No Longer Attracting Bullies (00:15:49) Marla and Laura talk about using adversity for growth and how healing changes their reactions to toxic people.

Energetics and No Longer Attracting Abuse (00:17:06) Marla explains how energetic shifts mean toxic people no longer affect or are attracted to you.

Triggers, Healing with Family, and Vulnerability (00:17:59) Laura shares about being triggered, healing with her children, and the importance of vulnerability in family healing.

Excuses vs. Reasons for Trauma Responses (00:19:09) Marla reframes "excuses" as reasons for trauma responses, encouraging self-compassion.

Powerful Quotes from the Episode

Laura, 00:00:34, 'Keeping secrets will make you sick, and they always come to light in the end.'

Marla, 00:04:07, 'Don't give up on yourself.'

Laura, 00:07:17, 'I spent 33 years with someone who made me feel like I was the problem every time, no matter what.'

Laura, 00:07:17, 'You deserve to trust your gut again. You deserve to trust you.'

Marla, 00:06:20, 'People would see me being abused in full daylight and nobody stood up for me. They acted like it was normal.'

Laura, 00:12:13, 'What I found was that I wasn't being loved the way I needed to be loved.'

Laura, 00:19:02, 'We've had a lot of good healing and it's taken a lot of vulnerability to get there.'

• YOU'RE NOT CRAZY, RECLAIMING YOUR SANITY AND SELF-WORTH AFTER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE ebook: GET IT HERE
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Website: https://marlabollak.com/

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marla/

Healing takes vulnerability — but it leads to deeper connection.

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