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Dr. Marc Brackett joins us today to talk about what emotional intelligence actually is—and why it’s not just “being a deep feeler” or a good talker. He breaks it down with his RULER framework (recognizing, understanding, labeling, expressing, regulating) and pushes for more precise language than “good,” because nuance changes everything.
One of the biggest takeaways: emotional skills don’t grow without “permission to feel,” and most people didn’t have an “emotional ally” growing up—someone “non-judgmental” who offers presence instead of fixing. He also shares practical regulation tools: “never worry alone,” watch your self-talk, and set identity-based intentions (like being “cherished” and “alive” as a parent). He reminds parents, including Devi, that it’s “effortful, but it is not difficult,” and sleep is often the hidden barrier.
Connect with Marc
Website: https://marcbrackett.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marc.brackett/
Read: Dealing With Feeling
Connect with Devi:
Website: https://devibrownwellbeing.com/
Substack: https://substack.com/@devibrown
Living In Wisdom Book: https://www.devibrown.com/book
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/devibrown/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deeplywellpod/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/devibrown?s=21&t=…
Merch: https://devibrown.myshopify.com/
Threads - https://www.threads.com/@devibrown
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Dr. Marc Brackett joins us today to talk about what emotional intelligence actually is—and why it’s not just “being a deep feeler” or a good talker. He breaks it down with his RULER framework (recognizing, understanding, labeling, expressing, regulating) and pushes for more precise language than “good,” because nuance changes everything.
One of the biggest takeaways: emotional skills don’t grow without “permission to feel,” and most people didn’t have an “emotional ally” growing up—someone “non-judgmental” who offers presence instead of fixing. He also shares practical regulation tools: “never worry alone,” watch your self-talk, and set identity-based intentions (like being “cherished” and “alive” as a parent). He reminds parents, including Devi, that it’s “effortful, but it is not difficult,” and sleep is often the hidden barrier.
Connect with Marc
Website: https://marcbrackett.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marc.brackett/
Read: Dealing With Feeling
Connect with Devi:
Website: https://devibrownwellbeing.com/
Substack: https://substack.com/@devibrown
Living In Wisdom Book: https://www.devibrown.com/book
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/devibrown/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deeplywellpod/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/devibrown?s=21&t=…
Merch: https://devibrown.myshopify.com/
Threads - https://www.threads.com/@devibrown
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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