In this episode, hosts Kathryn and Ewa sit down and each share their personal story with being sober curious — before they even knew that’s what it was. They talk about the in-between phase where something feels “off” with drinking, but the word sober doesn’t feel right either. If you’ve ever felt weird about labeling yourself, unsure if you need to quit or just want to feel more in control, this conversation will hit.

They also dive into why you don’t need a label to start changing your relationship with alcohol, how everyone’s path looks different (whether that’s cutting back, trying to be a “normal drinker,” or going fully alcohol-free), and why finding a mentor and community that actually honors where you’re at is everything. Instead of forcing a label, they talk about focusing on what you’re missing out on when you do drink, gathering real evidence from your own life, and building your sober curious phase like a court case. 

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