HEAL with Kelly

What does it take to keep living—and loving—after the unimaginable?

This is a conversation about loss—but even more, it’s about love, resilience, and the courage to keep saying yes to life.

In this powerful episode, I sit down with Betsy Thibaut Stephenson—a seasoned crisis communications expert, mother of three, and author of the memoir,  Blackbird: A Mother's Reflections on Grief, Loss, and Life After. In 2022, Betsy’s world was shattered by a six-week wave of devastating loss, including the death of her 21-year-old son, Charlie, to suicide. What followed wasn’t a quest to “move on,” but a conscious decision to live honestly, feel everything, and find meaning in the aftermath.

We talk about the lie’s depression tells, the complexity of navigating family grief, and the deeply personal stories we craft in order to survive. Betsy shares what it means to relearn how to feel, to hold space for discomfort, and to open up to healing—one small “yes” at a time.

We also explore how spiritual growth, self-compassion, and even anxiety can become part of the long, often nonlinear path to peace.

Disclaimer: This episode contains sensitive discussion around suicide, grief, and mental health. Please listen with care. If you or someone you know is struggling, help is available. In the U.S., call or text 988 for the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline.

LINKS

Betsy Stephenson website: https://www.blackbirdbetsy.com/

Betsy on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/blackbirdbetsy21/

Blackbird: A Mother's Reflections on Grief, Loss, and Life After Suicide book on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4fdG4Vt

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Key Moments You'll Love:

💔 [0:00] Understanding Depression's Hidden Strength

📖 [3:45] Charlie's Story: The Shocking Timeline of Loss

⚠️ [11:00] The Dangerous Myths About Depression's "Calm"

🗣️ [14:30] Permission to Grieve: Standing Up to "Don't Cry"

🧠 [15:30] Crafting Your Healing Story: The Brutal Honesty Method

💭 [16:45] Living with the "What Ifs" That Never End

🏠 [27:00] Different Grief Styles: How Families Heal Differently

🌱 [29:25] The Gentle Push: When Self-Care Becomes Self-Sabotage

💪 [40:45] Depression's True Power: Overriding Survival Instinct

🗨️ [45:50] Building the Vulnerability Muscle from Childhood

🌿 [1:02:50] Daily Tools: Snipping the Tendrils of Fear

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If you’ve ever felt like you can’t keep doing it the same way—or longed for the courage to meet life as it is—this episode is a breath of truth. A reminder that within you, there is an unstoppable force of love, grace, and presence… and it’s more than enough.

In this heart-opening episode of HEAL with Kelly, I sit with my dear friend Sage Robbins—world-renowned speaker, mentor, philanthropist, and heart-centered guide—for a deeply personal and soul-stirring conversation on what it means to live fully, love deeply, and embrace the beautiful mess of being human. Sage embodies the intersection of grace and power and brings a rare blend of humility, authenticity, and humor from a life committed to personal growth and spiritual alignment.

Together, we explore the secret to lasting love, the fact that all relationships are mirrors, and the sacred responsibility of parenting with vulnerability. Sage opens up about learning to welcome pain as a teacher, practicing forgiveness through rituals like Ho’oponopono, and discovering that even fear has its place in a spiritually aligned life. She reminds us that we are not broken—we are becoming. And that the deeper we lean into our humanness, the closer we get to wholeness.

Join Sage Robbins at the She’s Unstoppable Summit — a powerful three-day virtual experience happening August 20–22. This free global event brings together like-hearted women from around the world to reconnect with their authentic power, rise above what no longer serves, and remember who they truly are.

Register now at ShesUnstoppableSummit.com — it’s completely free and open to all.

LINKS

Sage Robbins on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sagerobbins/

She’s Unstoppable Summit: https://www.tonyrobbins.com/programs/unleash-her-power-within

Key Moments You'll Love:

🌟 [0:00] Introduction to Sage Robbins - Light & Authenticity

💔 [3:20] How Pain Humbles Us & Strips Us to the Bone

🧠 [8:00] Byron Katie's "The Work" - Being Pushed to Enlightenment

💑 [10:40] Navigating 25+ Years with Tony Robbins Without Losing Yourself

🪞 [16:00] Trading Expectations for Appreciation in Relationships

🔄 [22:30] Breaking the Story Addiction - Getting Unstuck from the Past

🙏 [28:00] Ho'oponopono Practice - Hawaiian Forgiveness Technique

👨‍⚕️ [35:00] Dr. Hugh Len's Prison Story - The Power of Unconditional Love

👶 [42:00] Parenting with Vulnerability - What to Do When Kids Feel Scared

⚡ [52:30] She's Unstoppable Summit - 500,000 Women Finding Their Power

💝 [55:50] Final Truth: "You're Seen, Loved & Perfect as You Are"

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What if your life is a dream, and you’re the one creating it? Whether you’re building a business, healing your body, or simply trying to live with more love, this conversation is packed with timeless wisdom, hard-won insight, and soul.

In this expansive and deeply personal episode, I sit down with Whole Foods Market Co-Founder and Conscious Capitalism pioneer John Mackey, who shares his next bold chapter: a transformational new venture called Love.Life. A 45,000-square-foot wellness center designed to help people become the healthiest version of themselves. And it happens to be 8 minutes from my new home! Am I a powerful manifestor or what!? :)  

Love.Life is designed to be a one-stop destination for holistic healing, integrating food, fitness, functional medicine, and leading-edge recovery modalities. John shares powerful insights on forgiveness, self-responsibility, and how tuning into your inner guidance system can shift your entire reality.

From business to spirituality, leadership to relationships, John opens up about the values that shaped his journey and the inner practices that keep him aligned. He reflects on decades of experience as a mission-driven entrepreneur, the spiritual insights, and the deep importance of building a life (and a business) fueled by love.

Together, we explore how to build a culture rooted in purpose and integrity, what most CEOs get wrong about leadership, and why happiness is the compass that can guide us toward our true path.

LINKS

John Mackey’s on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/iamjohnmackey/⁠

Love.Life website: ⁠https://love.life/⁠

Love.Life on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/theofficiallove.life/⁠

The Whole Story:

Adventures in Love, Life, and Capitalism book on Amazon: ⁠https://amzn.to/4nXcisa

Key Moments You'll Love:

🔑 [0:00] The Secret to Success & Admitting Mistakes

🏢 [2:44] What is Love Life? John's New 45,000 sq ft Holistic Health Club

🔄 [8:32] The Community Problem: Why Health Programs Fail & Recidivist

❤️ [19:22] Following Your Heart: The Golden Nugget for Entrepreneurs

💕 [24:44] Love Everyone All the Time: No Exceptions (Life-Changing Philosophy)

💪 [32:05] Mistakes Are Growth: Why You Must Fail Forward as an Entrepreneur

🦸 [38:48] The Hero's Journey: Overcoming Fear to Follow Your Calling

💑 [42:10] Relationship Secrets: 35 Years of Marriage & Finding a Happy Partner

🙏 [48:52] Forgiveness as a Gift: How Betrayal Becomes Liberation

✨ [53:31] This Moment is All That's Real: Letting Go of Past & Future

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This conversation is an invitation to reconnect with the parts of you that have long been silenced. To reconnect with the truth of who you are. And to feel what your body is really saying through symptoms and sensations. It also serves as a reminder that healing isn’t about fixing — it’s about coming home to yourself through the power of somatic healing, emotional awareness, and embodied safety.

In this transformative episode of HEAL with Kelly, I sit down with my dear friend, Dr. Christian Gonzalez — naturopathic doctor, host of Heal Thy Self, and founder of the Emotional Liberation Method — to explore the powerful connection between the body, trauma, and true healing. I’ve personally had the honor of working with Dr. G, and I can tell you — his work is nothing short of profound. His understanding of the body, trauma, and emotional expression has shifted the way I see healing, both in myself and in others.

From the brilliant role of fascia to the energy of repressed emotion, Dr. G offers a fresh lens on why we get sick — and what it actually takes to get well. Together, we dive into how childhood patterns shape adult identities, how the nervous system underpins nearly every chronic condition, and why voice and vibration — not just breath — may be the missing link in somatic healing.

We also touch on the emotional profiles often overlooked in cancer care, the unspoken shame many women carry, the truth about self-abandonment, and how co-regulation can become a portal to profound transformation.

Whether you’re on a healing journey or simply seeking a deeper understanding of yourself, this conversation is a powerful reminder: What if your chronic symptoms weren’t random — but messages from a body that’s been trying to speak to you all along?

LINKS

Dr. Christian Gonzalez Website:https://drchristiangonzalez.com/

Dr. Christian Gonzalez on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/doctor.gonzalez/

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Key Moments You'll Love:

🍃 [0:00] From Plant-Based Doc to Trauma Healer

🧬 [3:59] The Missing Pieces in Cancer Treatment

💡 [5:23] The Breakthrough: What Stress Really Is

🧠 [7:29] Why Your Nervous System Controls Everything

👶 [10:11] How Childhood Wounds Create Adult Identity

⚡ [19:16] Fascia: Your Body's Emotional Storage System

💔 [21:29] The Breast Cancer Patient Profile Revealed

🔓 [33:02] Finding Safety to Be Your Authentic Self

🎵 [42:08] Why Sound is the Key to Emotional Release

🏠 [50:31] Simple Daily Practices to Start Healing

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What if healing isn’t about talking more — but about telling your nervous system: It’s over. You’re safe now?

😂 [42:17] The Dalai Lama's Wisdom: "More Fun"

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What if the key to healing chronic illness wasn't found in a pill bottle, but in the same frequencies that naturally flow from the sun?

In this illuminating episode of HEAL with Kelly, I sit down with Robby Besner, Chief Science Officer and co-founder of Therasage, whose personal journey from desperate father to wellness pioneer has revolutionized how we think about detoxification and healing.

Over 25 years ago, when his daughter was diagnosed with chronic Lyme disease, Robby watched conventional treatments drain their finances while providing minimal relief. Frustrated and determined, he dove deep into research and discovered the profound healing power of infrared frequencies — the same therapeutic wavelengths our bodies have evolved to receive from natural sunlight.

You’ll learn how infrared sauna therapy works differently than traditional sauna therapy, why regular detoxification practices are paramount in today’s toxic world, and how subtle shifts — like sequencing your healing protocols — can make a profound impact on outcomes. Robby also unpacks the science behind bio-resonance, vibrational healing, and the hidden link between inflammation, toxicity, and cellular repair.

Whether you're dealing with chronic illness, seeking daily wellness optimization, or simply curious about the intersection of ancient wisdom and modern technology, this conversation will transform how you think about your body's innate ability to heal.

Listeners of HEAL with Kelly can receive 25% off any Therasage product by using the code KELLY at checkout at therasage.com.

LINKS

Robby Besner on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theraman1

Thera Optimal Health Website: https://theraoptimalhealth.com

Therasage Website: http://www.therasage.com

Therasage on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therasageinfrared

Key Moments You'll Love:

💔 [0:00] Introduction & Robbie's Background

🔬 [3:36] A Father's Desperate Search

🌞 [8:25] The Infrared Discovery

🔥 [19:17] The 85% Difference

💊 [29:05] The Binder Revolution

🎯 [35:55] Symptoms as Communication

❄️ [43:03] Contrast Therapy Magic

⚡ [47:46] Next-Level Light Therapy

🧠 [54:30] Wearable Healing Tech

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Whether we’re talking sigils, somatics, or the neuroscience of orgasm, this episode drives home one truth: your body holds wisdom, your desires matter, and your sexual energy is a force that can heal, transform, and manifest the life you want.

In this intimate and eye-opening episode of the HEAL with Kelly podcast, I sit down with world-renowned sex, love, and relationship therapist Dr. Laura Berman to explore the transformative principles behind her latest book, Sex Magic — a guide to harnessing your sexual energy to consciously create the life you crave. With over 30 years of experience, a PhD from NYU, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and regular appearances on The Oprah Winfrey Show, OWN, and Showtime, Dr. Berman brings unmatched wisdom, heart, and depth to this liberating conversation.

Together, we unpack how women can reclaim desire beyond societal conditioning, move from performative intimacy to sacred connection, and why emotional safety — not just physical stimulation — is the true foundation of erotic fulfillment. Dr. Berman shares practical tools for cultivating quantum intimacy in long-term relationships and explains why chasing dopamine highs often leaves us empty —and what to do instead.

But this episode doesn’t stop at sex—it dives into the soul. Dr. Berman vulnerably shares the heartbreaking loss of her son, the metaphysical experience that followed, and how that grief cracked her open to a new level of embodiment, frequency healing, and spiritual awakening. Her journey through somatic release, emotional alchemy, and full-body “yes” living is as inspiring as it is instructive.

If you’re ready to rewire your relationship with pleasure, power, and presence — this one’s for you.

Key Moments You'll Love:

[00:00] Intro

[02:55] The Pandemic Porn Problem

[08:11] What You Really Want

[18:03] Sigil Creation Process

[28:38] The Communication Revolution

[34:46] Divine Masculine & Feminine

[37:47] The Situationship Lesson

[54:31] Feeling vs. Numbing

[57:43] The Full Body Yes

LINKS

Dr. Laura Berman Website: https://drlauraberman.com/

Dr. Laura Berman on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drlauraberman/

Sex Magic on Amazon: https://amzn.to/45oDmd5

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ABOUT THE HEAL WITH KELLY PODCAST:

The HEAL with Kelly Podcast (formerly The HEAL Podcast) is a continuation of the HEAL documentary and HEAL book. Kelly Noonan Gores, a passionate seeker on a mission to find out the true extent of human potential and healing, continues the conversation by interviewing leading doctors, scientists, spiritual teachers, and healers around the globe. She also interviews real people with remarkable healing stories who have turned around supposedly incurable diseases. So much more is possible when it comes to healing than we are often told by mainstream, conventional medicine. The HEAL with Kelly Podcast will inspire you with hope and empower you with knowledge, tools, awareness, and a strong belief that almost anything is possible when it comes to healing. A most powerful and intelligent healer resides within us all and The HEAL with Kelly Podcast will teach us how to activate this innate healer within.

Listen to all episodes of the HEAL with Kelly Podcast now on Spotify and Apple Podcasts

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The information shared in this episode is intended for educational and informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always consult your physician or qualified healthcare provider before making any changes to your diet, supplement routine, or health practices.

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What if the biggest lie you’ve been told is that you’re separate — from others, from your future, from your own power to heal?

In this expansive and mind-bending conversation, I sit down with Vishen Lakhiani, founder of Mindvalley and one of the world’s most influential curator of consciousness-expanding content, to explore what it truly means to activate your full human potential. From the science of brainwave states and the healing power of forgiveness to quantum jumping, intuitive development, and the rise of AI, this episode stretches the boundaries of what we believe is possible.

Vishen shares his personal healing journey through the profound impact of the Silva Method — a powerful method of meditation popularized in the 70s to access higher brain states for enhanced creativity, intuition, and problem solving.  We also discuss how regular spiritual practices like Vishen’s Six Phase Meditation can radically shift your emotional state (and your life!) in under 20 minutes a day. We also dive into some deeper questions: Are we living in a simulation? What does a conscious breakup really look like? And could AI actually usher in a golden age for humanity?

Whether you're curious, committed to growth, or simply open to new ideas, this episode will leave you questioning everything — and inspired to reclaim your inner power.

LINKS

Vishen Lakhiani Website: https://www.vishen.com/

Vishen Lakhiani on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vishen/

Mindvalley Website: https://www.mindvalley.com/

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What if the triggers in your relationships weren’t problems — but portals to healing?

In this heart-opening episode of HEAL with Kelly, best-selling author and Rising Woman founder Sheleana Aiyana returns to explore the deep, layered work of healing attachment wounds, breaking generational cycles, and cultivating conscious relationships — from the inside out.

Drawing from the powerful insights in her book Becoming the One and the Becoming the One Guided Journal, Sheleana shares the truth so many of us need to hear: real healing doesn’t happen in the mind alone. From nervous system regulation to somatic presence, she explains how we can’t think our way into safety — we have to feel our way there. Whether it’s romantic partnership, friendship, parenting, or sitting with our own emotions, Sheleana invites us to return to the wisdom of nature, our bodies, and our breath as the most reliable guides.

We unpack why we attract partners who mirror our deepest wounds, how to navigate the messy but meaningful stages of relationship, and what it actually means to co-create our lives with humility, presence, and heart. She also speaks to the power of repair in parenting, the importance of conscious friendships, and how crisis points —like breakups, breakdowns, and grief — can become the compost that nourishes our deepest growth.

If you’ve ever felt stuck in patterns you understand but can’t seem to change, this conversation is the medicine. Tune in and remember nothing in nature blooms before its time — and neither do we.

LINKS

Sheleana Aiyana Website: https://sheleanaaiyana.com/

Sheleana Aiyana on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sheleanaaiyana/

Becoming the One on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4dHMVG5

Becoming the One Guided Journal: https://amzn.to/3FB3oza

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What if the tiniest organism on Earth holds the key to healing your body, protecting your brain, and even turning back the clock?

In this eye-opening episode of HEAL with Kelly Podcast, I sit down with Catharine Arnston, the passionate founder and CEO of ENERGYbits®, whose journey into the world of algae began with a mission to help her sister heal from cancer. What she discovered would not only change her life—it could change yours too.

We explore the profound science and overlooked potential of spirulina and chlorella—two of the most nutrient-dense foods on the planet. From detoxing heavy metals and boosting energy, to supporting sleep, digestion, brain clarity, and radiant skin, Catharine breaks down the benefits with both clarity and joy. Whether you're navigating menopause, brain fog, or chronic fatigue, this might be the simplest, most powerful upgrade to your wellness routine.

This episode goes far beyond nutrition—it’s a reminder that healing doesn’t have to be complicated. Sometimes, nature already gave us everything we need. Once you hear this, you’ll never look at algae the same way again.

Ready to try it for yourself?

Go to www.https://energybits.com/ and use code HEALWITHKELLY for 20% off your order.

LINKS

Catharine Arnston Website: https://energybits.com/

Catharine Arnston on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/catharinearnston/

Disclaimer:The information shared in this episode is intended for educational and informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always consult your physician or qualified healthcare provider before making any changes to your diet, supplement routine, or health practices.

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