In this engaging conversation, Kimberly and Gary Jansen explore the profound themes of spirituality, the significance of the heart as a center of intelligence, and the transformative power of small acts of love. They delve into the complexities of grief, the dark night of the soul, and the role of saints and angels in our spiritual journeys. Through personal anecdotes and insights, they highlight the importance of spiritual practices in navigating life's challenges and fostering emotional resilience. They explore the profound roles of angels and saints in spiritual guidance, the importance of forgiveness, acceptance, and living in gratitude. They also delve into how these themes intersect with personal growth and the mystical experiences that shape our understanding of the divine.

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