That's Where I'm At

In this episode, Laura talks with Gabi, an Authenticity Coach and speaker. She is Certified in NLP, Trauma Hypnosis, and Reiki Attuned. She hosts the Resilient Heart Podcast and is the CEO of her Agency, which has two parts. One part focuses on transformational healing work and healing retreats for women in beautiful locations. Gabi also owns Resilient Voice Media, a Podcast Production Agency. She believes sharing the messy pieces of our lives and how we overcame them creates connection, community, and healing. Her focus is to help the underdog, the one without a million followers on social media, have a powerful message, allowing them to take their small reach and make a BIG impact. She loves podcasting and helping men and women amplify their stories and messages.

Today, Gabi shares her journey of healing from past trauma, breaking generational curses, and the power of vulnerability in relationships. She shares her experiences with domestic violence, becoming a single mom, and how she transformed her life. She further discusses the importance of healing, self-discovery, and sharing our stories to help others.

Tune in now!

Timestamps:

[02:40] How Gabi got into podcasting and coaching

[05:45] How different parts of the body store various emotional experiences

[14:02] Gabi's experience in an abusive relationship

[20:32] The complex emotions survivors of abuse experience when their abusers die

[23:17] How Gabi found her way into podcasting

[28:00] The inspiration behind Gabi's podcast "Resilient Heart"

[31:04] The power of sharing your story and releasing shame

[41:51] The long-term effects of abusive relationships on children

[46:52] The importance of journaling and self-reflection

[51:07] Importance of honesty in relationships

[52:18] How to connect with Gabi

Quotes:

• Too many of us think our stories don't matter. Our voice doesn't matter. Think that what we say or the connections we can build doesn't matter.
• I remember praying all the time; I just wanted peace. I just want peace. I just want this to stop. I just want this to not be my life.
• It's really sad because my story is not unique. There are a lot of women who have children in these types of environments, and it's because they're in environments where they're trying to escape, and there's a temporary safety in that place.
• It's such a beautiful thing to say, 'I'm so sorry.' Sometimes, we don't think what we did was a big deal, and then we hear it from them and what it did for them or how that made them feel.
• When we can sit down together and have, like, I'm sorry that I hurt your conversation, then it gives them the urgency to be able to have those conversations in their relationships and with children when they have them someday.
• We don't do anybody any justice when we lie to them and don't share the truth about who somebody was.

RESOURCES:

MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE

PRIVATE FACEBOOK SUPPORT GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/marriedtoaniceguy/

FOLLOW THE PODCAST: http://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com

BOOKS & JOURNALS: https://www.amazon.com/author/laurarichards

RESOURCES FOR YOUR HEALING: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/resources

FOLLOW GABI:

TIK TOK: TIK TOK

FACEBOOK: FACEBOOK

INSTAGRAM: INSTAGRAM

LINKEDIN: LINKEDIN

LINKTREE: LINKTREE

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Narcissistic relationships can be incredibly damaging, leaving survivors feeling confused, drained, and questioning their own worth. These toxic dynamics often involve manipulation, gaslighting, and emotional abuse, making it challenging for victims to recognize the true nature of their situation and find a way out. However, recovery from narcissistic abuse is possible, and it's a journey of self-discovery, healing, and empowerment.

In today's episode of the That's Where I'm At Podcast, Laura Richards, the host, is joined by Netta, a narcissistic abuse recovery coach, helping women rise above narcissist abuse who shares her insights on how she got into the narcissistic abuse recovery coaching, her childhood behaviors, things she did in order to heal and loving yourself enough. Netta also sheds more light on forgiving and nurturing ourselves, red flags to look out for during early dating, putting yourself first in a good way, taking the steps towards healing, what to do when you get the desire to go back, and making the right decision for yourself. Tune in to learn more!

Timestamps

[02:23] How Netta got into the narcissist coaching

[06:48] Netta's childhood behaviors

[09:13] Does Netta talk about how she went from one narcissist to another?

[11:51] The things Netta did in order to heal

[16:05] Love yourself enough

[19:20] How Netta decided to get into coaching

[20:20] Is Netta still with her husband?

[24:49] Forgiving and nurturing ourselves

[29:25] Red flags to look out for during early dating

[32:26] Putting yourself first in a good way

[36:16] Helping support each other in the family

[38:40] Beng disrespected by your kids and husband

[45:06] Netta parenting her parents

[46:53] Taking the steps towards healing

[53:43] What to do when you get the desire to go back

[56:51] Making the right decision for yourself

Notable Quotes

• "We have to love ourselves enough to say. If they don't like me, I still like me, and I am okay with that."
• "You can't be alone with 8 billion people on the planet."
• "Those things that scare us often keep us in places longer than we should be there."
• "What other people think of you is none of your business."
• "It's hard for us to think about putting ourselves first."
• "Taking care of everybody at the expense of yourself in not a good thing."

RESOURCES:

MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE

PRIVATE FACEBOOK SUPPORT GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/marriedtoaniceguy/

FOLLOW THE PODCAST: http://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com

BOOKS & JOURNALS: https://www.amazon.com/author/laurarichards

RESOURCES FOR YOUR HEALING: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/resources

FOLLOW NETTA:

Website 1: http://nettacoaches.com/

Website 2: https://nettaspeaks.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iam.nettaspeaks/

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nettaspeaks

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61550204045460

Lee Hammock Video (Girl thrown into a lake): https://www.instagram.com/mentalhealnesss/reel/C-86QdZsXQ1/

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In this l episode, Laura speaks with Stephanie McPhail, M.S., an expert in toxic relationship recovery. With a Double Masters Degree in Health and Education, a Bachelor in Psychology, and certifications as a Crisis Counselor and Coach, Stephanie brings a wealth of knowledge to the conversation. As a Reiki Practitioner and author of the bestselling "Being Loved Shouldn't Hurt" book and workbook, she specializes in helping professional women rediscover themselves after toxic divorces or breakups. Stephanie, who has been interviewed on FOX and featured in New York Weekly, hosts a weekly cable show, "Kick Unhealthy Relationships to the Curb." She serves on the CORE counsel of Experts for Avaiya University and on the board of a non-profit.

Today, she shares the complexities of healing after abusive relationships, discussing red flags, trauma bonding, and the critical importance of self-work. Stephanie shares important insights from both her personal experiences and her professional work, offering guidance on how women can rebuild their lives and find happiness, whether single or in a relationship.

Timestamps:

[05:04] Recognizing toxic patterns in various relationships

[05:25] The importance of communication in relationships

[08:53] Benefits of assertive communication in relationships

[10:06] Benefits of rebuilding self-esteem after toxic relationships

[15:39] Why people stay in unhealthy relationships

[21:14] Understanding cognitive dissonance and trauma bonding

[23:36] How narcissists can manipulate and control their partners

[28:28] Focusing on self-healing rather than obsessing over the abuser

[35:56] Building self-esteem and learning to set healthy boundaries

[49:06] The importance of getting comfortable being alone

Quotes:

• It's one of those things that we don't even realize how much it's affecting every area of our lives until we start doing the work and we're like I need to do something different here. And you're right. I think as soon as we start working on us, the people that have been taking advantage of those lack of boundaries don't like to stick around.
• You can either feel uncomfortable now or feel uncomfortable later. And if you feel uncomfortable later, that that tends to mean that we've been feeling uncomfortable for a long time and more bad things have happened.
• I think as soon as we start working on us, the people that have been taking advantage of those lack of boundaries don't like to stick around.
• We have to get really careful. 'Cause it can be a really slippery slope. We don't wanna live in researching about narcissism. We don't wanna become experts in narcissism because then you're just giving them more time and space.
• You can either feel uncomfortable now or feel uncomfortable later. And if you feel uncomfortable later, that tends to mean that we've been feeling uncomfortable for a long time and more bad things have happened.

RESOURCES:

MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE

PRIVATE FACEBOOK SUPPORT GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/marriedtoaniceguy/

FOLLOW THE PODCAST: http://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com

BOOKS & JOURNALS: https://www.amazon.com/author/laurarichards

RESOURCES FOR YOUR HEALING: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/resources

FOLLOW STEPHANIE:

Gift/book a call: Beinglovedshouldnthurt.com/thrive-guide

15 minute discovery call and free resources: https://www.beinglovedshouldnthurt.com/links

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beinglovedshouldnthurt/

Personal FB: https://www.facebook.com/stephanie.mcphail.10

FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/BeingLovedShouldntHurt

Podcast: toxiclovepodcast.com

Website: beinglovedshouldnthurt.com

Book is available on the website or Amazon: Being Loved Shouldn't Hurt

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Join Laura as she celebrates the one-year anniversary of the "That's Where I'm At" Podcast! In this special episode, Laura reflects on the incredible journey she's been on since launching her show, created out of a deep need to connect with women recovering from narcissistic abuse. From the first episode to becoming a top 5% podcast, Laura shares how her mission to provide a safe space for women to speak their truths has evolved, the power of using her voice, and what's next on the horizon.

In this Episode, You'll Hear About:

• Laura's Journey: Discover how Laura turned her pain into purpose by creating a community for women recovering from narcissistic abuse, and why talking openly about these experiences is so vital.
• Finding Your Voice: Laura discusses her own healing process and how reclaiming her voice has empowered her and her listeners.
• What's Next for the Podcast: Learn about Laura's plans for future episodes, new collaborations, and upcoming projects, including a collaborative book and audiobook versions of her works.
• The Power of Storytelling: Why it's essential to tell your story, how it helps in moving forward, and debunking myths like "living in the past" that abusers use to silence survivors.
• How to Support the Podcast: From leaving reviews to joining her private Facebook group, Laura shares how you can continue to support her mission and connect with a like-minded community.

Resources Mentioned:

• Books by Laura: Explore Laura's healing resources, including "There is Hope: 52 Keys to Healing After Divorce" and "Married to a 'Nice' Guy: Getting Over Narcissistic Abuse."
• Amazon Storefront: Find recommended books, journals, and resources curated by Laura to aid in your healing journey.
• Private Facebook Group: Join "Married to a Nice Guy" for a safe and supportive community.

Connect with Laura:

• Website: thatswhereimatpodcast.com
• Social Media: Follow, like, and share on all major platforms to spread the message of hope and recovery.
• Leave a Review: Your feedback on Apple, Spotify, and Amazon helps the podcast reach more survivors and build our community.

Thank you for your incredible support over the past year! Your downloads, shares, and kind words have made this journey possible. Remember, your voice matters. Keep sharing your story because someone out there needs to hear it.

RESOURCES:

MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE

PRIVATE FACEBOOK SUPPORT GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/marriedtoaniceguy/

FOLLOW THE PODCAST: http://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com

BOOKS & JOURNALS: https://www.amazon.com/author/laurarichards

RESOURCES FOR YOUR HEALING: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/resources

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In today's episode, Laura is joined by Monaca Vanderpool, an international podcast host, bestselling author, and highly successful entrepreneur. Monaca shares her journey through personal adversities, including a 13-year toxic relationship, an unexpected health diagnosis, and the challenges of single parenthood. She discusses how these experiences led her to write "Jokers Dressed Up As Kings" and create "The Glitch Mob Podcast" to support others navigating toxic relationships.

Monaca highlights the importance of understanding narcissistic traits and behaviors, emphasizing the power of going "no contact" with toxic ex-partners and the effectiveness of "gray rocking" when communication is unavoidable. She also touches on the healing power of journaling and the value of sharing one's story to help others. They both stress the importance of authenticity in storytelling and not letting others' opinions silence them. They further touch on the challenges of co-parenting with a narcissist and offer helpful advice for maintaining boundaries.

Join the conversation now! Together, we can break the cycle of toxic relationships and empower each other to reclaim our lives. Your story matters, and your voice deserves to be heard. Join our community of survivors and thrivers today!

Timestamps:

[01:38] Monaca's background and her journey

[03:04] The importance of putting words to pain in healing

[05:44] How strong, independent women can be targets for narcissists

[07:34] Link between narcissistic abuse and the manipulation tactics used in cults

[14:56] The freedom of and joy of leaving narcissistic relationships

[15:36] How narcissists recycle romantic gestures as part of their love-bombing tactics

[18:15] The importance of journaling in healing from narcissistic abuse

[19:04] The positive impact of one person's courage on another's healing

[23:03] Importance of keeping a list of abusive behaviors

[27:42] The need to talk about narcissism and its impacts

[29:56] How to handle communication with an ex when co-parenting

[33:56] The gray rocking technique in managing communication with an ex

[41:12] Monaca's plans for speaking engagements and outreach

Quotes:

• It's beautiful to have a strong, independent woman who has a powerful voice, but unfortunately, that makes us targets.
• Healing is not linear. Healing is so messy.
• Be yourself. When I started doing that, I started attracting people who wanted to hear what I had to say.

• Gray rocking feels good because you have become a better person. You do rise. You rise above it, and you become a better person. And it just feels good.
• You are not a victim of sharing your story. You're a survivor. Setting the world on fire with your truth. You never know who needs your light, your warmth and rage and courage
• We all have a story to tell. And you're allowed to tell your story. That doesn't mean you're living in the past. And that's a manipulative word phrase to say to people. That's what toxic people say, to keep people quiet, that you're talking about the past.
• The beauty of the gray rocking is that they eventually lose interest because they know you won't react to them. So you're protecting your peace.

Resources

Connect with Laura on:

MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE

PRIVATE FACEBOOK SUPPORT GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/marriedtoaniceguy/

FOLLOW THE PODCAST: http://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com

BOOKS & JOURNALS: https://www.amazon.com/author/laurarichards

RESOURCES FOR YOUR HEALING: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/resources

BOOK COVER DESIGN ARTIST: https://amandapottsdesigns.com/

Connect with Monaca on:

FOLLOW MONACA: https://monacavanderpool.com/

JOKERS DRESSED UP AS KINGS: https://monacavanderpool.com/bookmonica/

OUR FAMILY WIZARD co-parenting app

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In this episode, I'm joined by Angie Bergen, a passionate Life Coach on a mission. She specializes in reigniting the faded dreams of middle-of-life women, breathing fresh life into their aspirations. She is a Medical Intuitive who taps into the world of energy healing. A self-professed personal development geek, Angie always has her nose in a book, enrolling in courses and soaking in the wisdom of retreats. She firmly believes age is just a number when it comes to learning and growth.

She lives in sunny Las Vegas, NV, where she and her miniature Dachshund sidekick, Khloe, enjoy life. When the heat's not scorching, you'll find her happily tending to her yard, creating a cozy oasis of green. Angie's journey is one of inspiring others, nurturing dreams, and embracing the journey of self-discovery. Her magic lies in helping women break free from the mundane and embrace their passions, painting their futures with vibrant hues.

Today, Angie shares her personal story of leaving a 24-year marriage to a narcissist and how she rebuilt her life. She discusses the challenges of recognizing red flags, leaving controlling relationships, and dreaming again after such experiences. We also explore the importance of self-worth and self-compassion, therapy, and support systems in making major life changes. Angie also talks about the journals and courses she has created to help other women envision a new future.

Tune in now!

Timestamps:

[02:57] Angie's story of divorce after 24 years of marriage

[05:26] Abandoning oneself in marriage and gaslighting

[14:51] The shift in options and mindset for women considering divorce today

[19:37] The importance of writing down dreams and goals

[21:10] How to start dreaming again without self-limitation

[23:00] How parents' trauma can impact their children

[24:41] Visualizing goals and taking small action steps

[39:37] Healing methods like therapy and courses on narcissism

[43:00] Patterns in relationships and self-talk during healing

[49:50] Creating journals and courses to help women rediscover dreams

[59:09] Moving forward and listening to your body's needs in healing

[1:02:15] How to connect with Angie on social media

Quotes:

• If it comes to mind, just write it down. You don't have to know the how. You just have to dream.
• I wanna dream again. I don't know why I'm saying that, but I just haven't dreamt because I had many dreams. Except that he would go, no, you can't really dream that.
• Whose thoughts are you thinking? Because you can't always believe the thoughts that you have because they could totally be somebody else's.
• Just because someone says it about us doesn't mean it's true.
• You deserve to heal. It was not your fault. And you are worthy of love and a life where you are not miserable.
• Your mess becomes your message.

RESOURCES:

MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE

PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/marriedtoaniceguy/

FOLLOW THE PODCAST: http://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com

BOOKS & JOURNALS: https://www.amazon.com/author/laurarichards

RESOURCES FOR YOUR HEALING: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/resources

FOLLOW ANGIE:

WEBSITE: https://wellnesssoulutions.com/ The Sociopath Next Door: https://a.co/d/8DYvNDB

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In this powerful episode, I'm joined by Rocky Martinez, an empowering Business Coach and Life Coach, Motivational Speaker, Author and Facilitator. Rocky is a Brand Strategist, Emotional Intelligence and REBT expert, and the Creator of the Color Your Dreams Masterminds. She is the bestselling author of Color Your Dreams, Paid To Do What You Love: A Woman's Guide To Monetizing Your Gifts & Talents And Build A Business You Love In 7 Easy Steps, a contributing author of the Best Sellers "Co-parenting in Harmony, The Art of Putting Your Child's Soul First" and "Co-parenting in Harmony, Creating a Ripple Effect." In 2019, she was the Creative Director and Columnist of the "Community Magazine Vida Las Vegas."Today, she shares her experience with narcissistic abuse and how she broke free from the "boiling frog syndrome". Coach Rocky shares her childhood experiences that normalized toxic behaviors and set her up to tolerate an abusive marriage later in life. She discusses the different types of abuse and how the highs and lows of the toxic relationship kept her trauma bonded and addicted to the cycle. Coach Rocky explains how journaling helped her recognize the patterns and reclaim her identity. She also emphasizes the importance of taking small steps to do things for yourself to slowly regain your power.

Ready to break free from toxic relationships and reclaim your power? Tune in now!

Timestamps:

[02:27] Rocky's background and journey into coaching

[15:48] How people slowly acclimate to toxic situations

[17:46] Factors that contribute to staying in toxic relationships

[18:48] Rocky's childhood experiences with toxic family dynamics

[30:56] Entering a toxic marriage and not recognizing the abuse

[46:00] The subtle and incremental nature of narcissistic abuse in relationships

[50:26] The importance of working on yourself

[52:50]The boiling frog syndrome and the normalization of abuse

[56:05] The importance of outsmarting the narcissist and doing things for yourself

[01:03:28] The illogical nature of narcissistic abuse and the childhood patterns that enable it

[01:05:10] The importance of feeling heard and the Me Too movement

[01:10:48] Steps to break free

[01:25:00] Rocky's plan to secretly pack and leave

[01:28:00] The importance of having a safety plan when leaving an abusive relationship

Quotes:

• We have to understand that once you have those patterns when you're a child from childhood, those patterns are always there. And you have to be very mindful and work on yourself constantly.
• When we're in a toxic relationship, we're in a toxic environment, and things happen, and then we tolerate it.
• We are strong, and we can withstand whatever comes because we're strong women, and this family is glued by the women.
• Courage means that you still have fear. You're just doing it anyway.
• Remember who you are, you know. You might be in the mud, you might be all dirty, and your garments might be all dirty, so put on your crown anyway.
• If you didn't have all that light inside you, they wouldn't want to silence you. But because you do, that's why they pick us. They don't pick a weak person.
• Nobody wants to be abused. Nobody wants to be mistreated. We just end up being in there. And that's why it's like, it's so strange how we don't realize it."
• When your spirit is broken, it doesn't matter what you do. You just feel like you're trapped in the same pattern over and over and over.
• You have to make a decision to be happy. Because when you start making a decision to be happy, you are telling yourself, I'm gonna be happy.

Resources

MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: https://a.co/d/07nUVKDf

FOLLOW THE PODCAST: http://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com

BOOKS & JOURNALS: https://www.amazon.com/author/laurarichards

RESOURCES FOR YOUR HEALING: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/resources

FOLLOW ROCKY: Coachrockymar.com

https://www.instagram.com/coachrockymar

https://www.facebook.com/CoachRockyMartinez

Get the book: Color Your Dreams, Paid To Do What You Love: A Woman's Guide To Monetizing Your Gifts & Talents And Build A Business You Love In 7 Easy Steps https://a.co/d/08pcsYLX

DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HOTLINE: https://www.thehotline.org/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=domestic_violence

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In this episode, I'm joined by Stephany Ann, an extraordinary individual, a former attorney and recipient of the governor's award for advocacy with survivors of domestic violence, who triumphed over narcissistic abuse. With two marriages to narcissists behind them, she harnessed the transformative power of the Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) to guide others on their path to healing and personal growth.

Stephany is a dedicated advocate for survivors of narcissistic abuse and relationship trauma, specializing in helping them navigate the path to freedom. Her expertise lies in closing the door on past pain and opening new doors on their journey to healing and self-discovery. As a storyteller and conversationalist, she weaves the threads of healing, self-love, and worthiness into empowering narratives. She discusses the importance of using different modalities, such as journaling, EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques), and intuitive movement, to process trauma and regain control over one's life. Stephany also talks about setting firm boundaries, reframing her narrative, and an upcoming empowering retreat she is leading to Peru. With a touch of Empress energy and an adventurous spirit, Stephany invites you to join her transformative journey toward love and liberation Timestamps:

[01:41] Stephany's story and the patterns of unworthiness she experienced

[05:45] How Stephany shifted her perspective on her past relationships

[10:19] How Stephany used EFT to rewire her brain and heal from the trauma

[13:12] How "love bombing" in the beginning a relationships led to patterns of unworthiness

[15:53] The importance of sitting with and processing emotions through EFT

[19:43] Three-step process of EFT and how it helps clients release negative emotions

[23:12] Benefits of positive affirmations and visualizing the person you want to become

[25:00] The value of having quiet time for self-reflection

[26:17] Discovering different healing modalities beyond just talk therapy

[29:26] The importance of vulnerability and being honest with yourself

[31:17] The power of journaling as a safe place to express yourself

[34:32] Reframing your narrative and finding the lessons in past relationships

[45:04] Learning to set firm boundaries and not participate in unproductive interactions

Quotes:

• I was just so stuck for so long in, in my victim's story, I couldn't shift out of it. And so when I felt like God was saying, Stephanie, see your story through a different lens. See your story through a different perspective. Take the step back and look. And I started to do that, because when you're stuck in the victim story, it's hard to see the lessons.
• Getting out of these relationships, we have to rewire our thought process. We have to rewire our brain. We have to shut off that voice of them in our head saying, right. No one will ever love you. You will never find anyone better than me.
• For so long we've been told the negatives. So we need a lot of the positive affirmation.
• It's going to take that vulnerability just with yourself. You don't have to make an announcement to anybody. Right. You don't have to do anything. Just saying like, I need to stop and be quiet and go, yeah. I still have something to work on.
• We have the keys to unlock our healing and our potential and our empowerment. But it's just, you need the tools. And if you don't have the tools, here is EFT is one tool that can go in your toolbox.
• There's something very empowering when you can, you know, you say you wanna be empowered and we've been tapping on it and doing all these things. Yes. So, okay, well, we're gonna go to another country. We're gonna do something very physically hard.

RESOURCES:

MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE

FOLLOW THE PODCAST: http://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com

BOOKS & JOURNALS: https://www.amazon.com/author/laurarichards

RESOURCES FOR YOUR HEALING: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/resources

FOLLOW STEPHANY: www.linkedin.com/in/stephanyann

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In this episode, I'm joined by Chantal, a mom of 2 who was partnered for 25 years and left when she was 39. She is a high-conflict divorce coach who specializes in narcissistic abuse and has created a one-of-a-kind 12-week program for those who are ready to leave and know they need expert support, strategies, and guidance. Chantal shares her expertise on navigating divorces from narcissistic partners. She emphasizes the importance of strategic planning, hiring the right professionals, and understanding the tactics used by narcissists during the divorce process. Chantal also discusses the role of boundaries, self-worth, and healing after such a traumatic experience.

Chantal further discusses the covert facade that narcissists often present to the outside world, which can make it challenging for victims to recognize the abuse they're experiencing. She shares insights on how narcissists maintain this facade, triangulate their victims, and gaslight them into doubting their reality. Chantal also emphasizes the importance of understanding these tactics to avoid falling prey to predatory relationships and prioritizing one's healing journey.

Join the show for these and many more!

Timestamps

[02:15] How Chantal became a high-conflict divorce coach

[14:13] Setting boundaries and avoiding resentment

[17:24] Unlearning the habit of putting others first

[21:17] Chantal's coaching process and preparing clients for divorce

[26:54] Chantal's 12-week program and post-program support

[28:11] The difficulty of recognizing covert abuse due to the narcissist's facade

[30:08] Triangulation and how narcissists use it to manipulate their victims

[33:39] The impact of the silent treatment as a form of abuse

[36:30] Narcissist's tendency to move on quickly and their tactics to secure new supply

[40:31] Benefits of understanding love bombing and future faking

[45:37] The dangers of couples therapy when dealing with a narcissist.

[49:25] The volatility and triggers victims experience, even after recognizing the abuse

Quotes

• Narcissists are really about winning at all costs. It doesn't matter what kind we're talking about; if we're talking about a vulnerable or malignant, covert or overt, they all need to feel victorious.
• I don't think I'm perfect, but I know I'm a great catch. It's not that I'm perfect. I don't expect perfection. I don't want perfection. I don't look perfect. I don't act perfectly. I have issues. But overall, I am a good person, and I'm a really good catch.
• Having boundaries is your biggest protector and safeguard against abuse because abusers start small. It's the micro-testing of your boundaries when you first start.
• Even when it's good, even when you are on the best vacation, and you're having the time of your life, it's still abuse. Everything about the relationship is not real. You are constantly living in a state of survival.

Resources

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In this episode, I'm joined by Angie Berrett, an Intuitive Movement Coach, Advanced Trauma-Informed Yoga Instructor, Registered Nurse, and Stand-Up Paddleboard Yoga Instructor who understands the human body and how it works. She helps people use play and movement to connect to their bodies, releasing stress, anxiety, depression and trauma. Having journeyed from a child abuse survivor to a registered nurse and eventually a yoga instructor, she has dedicated much of her life to caring for others. In 2017, she reached a low point and embarked on a path to healing. Through discovering playful movements, she learned to listen to her body and overcome her suffering in ways traditional methods couldn't achieve. Today, she uses these experiences to help others heal their pain and transform their lives.

Angie is the Owner and Creator of the Angie Berrett Movement, where she coaches individuals on releasing stored trauma from their bodies while enhancing energy, strength, and flexibility. Her expertise has been featured in Psychology Today, Brainz Magazine, Authority Magazine, Bustle, Subkit, The Feisty News, and NewsBreak. Additionally, she has appeared on several podcasts, including The Bright Side of Life, Caregiver Chronicles, Wellness by Design, and Billy Dee's Podcast, among others.

Today, Angie shares her journey of surviving child abuse, hitting rock bottom, and discovering the healing power of play and movement. She discusses how she now helps others transform their lives by using playful movement techniques to release stress, anxiety, depression, and trauma. She explains the science behind how trauma affects the brain and body and shares practical techniques for releasing stored tension and resetting the nervous system.

Tune in to learn why activities like dancing, shaking, and even throwing "temper tantrums" can be powerful tools for processing difficult emotions and experiences.

Timestamps:

[02:48] Angie's journey of trauma and hitting rock bottom

[07:22] Seeking help and starting the healing process

[08:59] Discovering yoga and trauma-informed practices

[11:40] Learning about the power of play in healing

[14:35] How Angie helps clients through playful movement

[19:29] Demonstration of swaying exercise for body awareness

[22:52] Play vs. competition for adults

[25:00] Different play activities and their benefits

[28:21] The hand brain model and how stress affects the brain

[31:33] The nervous system's stress responses

[34:37] How chronic stress builds up in the body over time

[37:50] Techniques for releasing stored tension and energy

[41:34] The importance of "shaking it off" to discharge stress

Quotes:

• Play is something that helps get us into a state where our minds can shut off. We can separate from our trauma, and we can be in our sensory experiences without overwhelm or overload.
• When I use the term play, I really use it in a way that there is no set outcome for what's gonna happen. It's not competitive. There is no I win, I lose. It's more about the exploration of, oh, what did I experience along the way?
• Play and movement give us the opportunity to release that fight or flight energy in a way that's not actually taking us into that stress.
• Our rational brain is gonna limit us 100% of the time. So when we can find ways to turn that off, your body is gonna give you the information when you start learning how to listen to it, of how to release it.
• Animals out in the wild have traumatic experiences, but they don't develop PTSD or residual stress like humans do to the same degree that we do. And the reason is because after animals in the Wild have had a traumatic experience, they'll shake it off.
• Chronic stress actually can and regularly does turn into trauma for most of us. so the hand brain model is something that is a fantastic way of learning what happens in our body and why play and movement are so helpful for trauma, like child abuse, domestic abuse, that kind of stuff, as well as the chronic stress.

RESOURCES:

MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: https://a.co/d/07nUVKDf

FOLLOW THE PODCAST: http://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com

BOOKS & JOURNALS: https://www.amazon.com/author/laurarichards

RESOURCES FOR YOUR HEALING: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/resources

FOLLOW ANGIE: https://angieberrettmovement.com

https://www.linkedin.com/in/angieberrettmovement

https://Instagram.com/angieberrettmovement

https://www.facebook.com/AngieBerrettMovement

https://youtube.com/@angieberrettmovement?si=B4qvgq0VYuMw7ngt

Free guidebook on play and movement

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