In this episode, I virtually sit down with Lisa Donovan, creator and founder of The Pattern app. We discuss how she got into astrology, Lisa gives me a chart reading, my compatibility with Steven's chart, Lisa's timeline for her own relationship, what it takes to dedi- cate yourself to your calling, why The Pattern is so thorough and accurate, using astrology for dating, what to say when someone is hating on astrology, what a dream chart looks like, and more! This episode starts with a solo where I discuss things people can't discuss with partner. My chemical peel, best practices for early stages of dating, if Steven is the type of guy I thought I'd end up with a vice versa, how to know if your SO is going to propose within the next year, how do you know if you want kids or not, and more!

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